Gatwood, Elden J SAD <Elden.J.Gatwood@...>
Thanks for the info on those cars!
I remember you also commenting on the OVL 10k UTLX "X-3" cars, but I don't
recall what you found wrong with them (I do remember you said there were some
issues). Was it the presence of ladders and platforms on both sides, or was
there more to it than that?
And, on those GATC 2-dome and 3-dome insulated cars, do you know what number
series' they were in in GATX?
Lastly, you mentioned that the 8k insulated 105 car was bogus. Is there any
way of modifying this car to be something correct, like replacing the valve
casing with a dome, or is that just unheard of to do with a brass tank? This
is the one with those oddball platforms + a stepped handrail around the valve
casing that makes it appear like some kind of auto "lead" car like you found
in smaller sizes...
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Overland Models Tank Cars
On Aug 20, 2007, at 5:51 PM, Kurt Laughlin wrote:
I came across an ad for Overland Models from '93 or so showing aGeneral Warning: Some of the Overland tank car models of that vintage
are correct, but many were painted and lettered in bogus paint schemes,
often based on photos of vaguely similar cars in various issues of the
Car Builders' Cyclopedias Don't trust any of them in the absence of
I know the Western Asphalt car is correct, as I supplied the data on
which the model was based. The reporting marks were CDLX, however
(California Despatch Line), an error that OL also made in the decals
for this model (though it's fairly easy to correct).
The model identified as GATX 1929 may be correct for the GATX cars of
the late 1920s, but the number is bogus. GATC used to paint and letter
demo cars with the year of their construction as the car number, but of
course those cars never went into revenue service with those numbers.
SHPX leased 10K gal. insulated Type 27s to Cities Service; there's a
photo of SHPX 4039 in the 1940 CBC. But I don't know how accurately
the model represents this prototype.
USAX 10936 "United States Army", labeled as insulated but clearlyThe cars in this series were standard GATC Type 30 10K gal. ICC-103s.
GATX 62983 "Schenectady Chemicals", labeled as uninsulated butPhoto of DUPX 2656 in the 1937 CBC.
PAX 359 "Pennzoil", insulated 3-comp w/larger center domeThe model represented a GATX car that was in bulk wine service in the
late 1960s (I provided the photos and data for that one, too). The
larger center dome indicated that the prototype had been converted from
a single compartment to a three compartment car and kept its original
center dome; GATC had numerous three compartment cars, both insulated
and non-insulated, that had been converted in that fashion. But DRX
2148 wasn't a GATC car, it was a car built by the Pressed Steel Car Co.
for North American and leased to Deep Rock in the late 1920s and early
'30s by North American. There's a photo of DRX 2157 in the 1931 CBC.
The Pennzoil model is entirely bogus. Pennzoil operated a sizable
fleet of tank cars in the 1920s but, like many private owners, sold its
tank cars in favor of leasing cars when the economic bad times of the
depression came along, and the PAX cars disappeared from the ORERs ca.
1931. In any case, only four of them were three compartment cars and
none of those were insulated.