Re: How much is too much?

Tim O'Connor

Even mainline, lightweight passenger cars roofs got dirty and were only
rarely washed -- mechanical car washers usually washed the lower edge
of the roof. And trucks and underbodies got dirty fast and were rarely as
clean as the sides. Car ends were rarely given a good wash. If it were
my combine I'd grunge up those areas and leave the sides relatively
clean. Windows in particular were often the cleanest part of the car.

Tim O'Connor

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@...>
Richard is probably right, but if you are modeling a particular railroad and
you never know what the local crews did. I've seen photos of wood or steel
passenger equipment on the CB&Q
used in branchline service that were rather well kept and some that you couldn't
read the lettering on.....
You have at least one photo...what does it show???
Charlie Vlk

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hendrickson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] How much is too much?

On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Philip Lord wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am about to weather a combine to match a photo of the same one in
> the late 1940s on the branchline I am modeling and near my prototype
> area. The combine also served as the "caboose" on the end of a short
> mixed train, and the photo shows one window converted with weather
> guards and a rain deflector to serve as the crew observation area.
> Given all this, I am assuming it is pretty dirty and worn, yet some
> people are saying passenger cars should not be weathered much since
> they went through the washers all the time and stayed pretty clean.
> True no doubt on the mainline. But I am thinking in this peripheral
> service, on the low-end route, and late in the game, it was pretty
> much a "poor relation" and not serviced that often.

Phil, you're right that ex-passenger cars used in mixed train service
or as cabooses weren't maintained to the same standards as main line
passenger equipment, and certainly were seldom run through the car
washers. I still remember a similar Santa Fe car I rode on when it was
used on branch line locals in Southern Calif. and it was both weathered
and dirty, though perhaps not as much as if had been used in LV "coal
country." I'd model your LV car with faded and weathered paint and a
fair amount of dirt and grime, but I'd avoid overdoing it.

Richard Hendrickson

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