For what EVER reason, the cars were fumigated to kill or keep the bugs out or keep them from hatching in transit. Just trying to help. Take it or leave it. I am NOT a farmer.
Charlie Slater

To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
From: Ljack70117@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:04:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Great photos - grain doors




















FYI you can not keep the weevils out of the wheat. They are on the

wheat in the field and lay their eggs on the grain. even if the

fumigation kills them the eggs hatch and yo have ore weevils and more

eggs. Buy a bag of flour and let it sit in a warm room on a shelf

for a month or so and then open it. Ask yourself where did all the

weevils come from. Weevils do not get into cars of wheat when it is

in shipment. They are already there when it is loaded.

Larry Jackman

ljack70117@comcast.net

Boca Raton FL 33434

I want to die in my sleep like

my grandfather did, not screaming

like the other poeople in his car.



On Dec 15, 2007, at 6:50 PM, charles slater wrote:

Richard in the 1970's we used to get a lot of box cars loaded with

wheat or flower going to General Mills in L.A. that looked like

this and it was a paper and past seal because the cars were

fumigated in transit to keep the weevils out. Sometimes they would

even use newspaper for the seal. The cars also had a poison placard

taped to the car side or nailed to the tack boards.

Charlie Slater

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From: rhendrickson@opendoor.com

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:50:11 -0800

Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Great photos - grain doors

On Dec 15, 2007, at 9:18 AM, gn3397 wrote:

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Ned Carey" <nedspam@...> wrote:

Note the GN boxcar in the forground. It has what appears to be

remnants of a grain

door. Can someone explain this to me? Is this the door in normal

use,

i.e. some of the

door shows while the car is carrying grain? Alternatively is this a

case of the door has been

used in the past and remnants of the door remain, simply no one

bothered to remove

them. I think this would be a terrific detail to model.

Mr. Carey,

Actually, you aren't seeing a grain door. What you are seeing is a

heavy paper door seal

to prevent contamination of the boxcar's contents from moisture,

etc.

A grain door is a

wooden door comprised of horizontal boards that is nailed to the

inside of the wooden

door posts of steam era boxcars. These seals could of course

could be

used for protection

of other ladings as well. I have photos of other series of GN

boxcars

with these seals in

place, but haven't ever seen it modeled. Hope this helps.

Mr. Heniger is correct. There will be numerous photos of cars with

these waterproof paper door seals in my forthcoming Speedwitch Media

book, Focus on Freight Car Vol. 2, all of them on cars loaded with

bagged flour.

Richard Hendrickson

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