Re: Wheels/gaps/turnouts
Roger J Miener <Roger.Miener@...>
Mike Brock speaks of the interrelationship between wheels and wing
rails... An interesting point. However, the code 110 wheel actually doesn'tdrop at all. The reason is that the turnout frog/flange gap dimensions fortrack standard S-3 matches the code 110 wheel.What follows are links to three photos in the abpr archives. Please note the credits on each page once it opens. These photos, together with the text below, may be of assistance to those who have a bit of trouble visualizing just exactly what is going on as the wheel passes over the flangeway gap in a frog. Below we will see two views of a crossing that utilizes railbound manganese frog castings and then we will finish by looking a photo of a spring frog. I wish I could find other photos because these particular configurations can be confusing, but they will have to do for the moment. So, let's begin. In the first photo we see a wide view of most of a crossing - not the whole thing. What you will see here are the shiny paths of wear left by wheels as they pass through the crossing. Of interest here are the parallel wear lines left by the flange-root radius portion and the "false flange" portion of the tread as typically found on worn wheels. When wheels wear, the pretty coned taper of the tread wears away rather quickly and the tread eventually assumes a concave or cupped shape. This wear results in the creation of a shallow and somewhat broad "false flange" at the outer edge of the wheel tread accompanied by the regular flange which now sports a worn flange-root radius that bespeaks a flange that is both thinner and sharper that it was when new. Two things about this first photo that may confuse -- First is the use of manganese inserts in the frogs - you have to mentally scoot things around to think of how the rails would look if all the frogs were of bolted rail construction - but then you wouldn't be able to see very much evidence of the wear left by the false flanges -- Second is that this crossing is using frogs of a much lower number than that typically found in turnouts. This latter fact makes it difficult to see that the wing rail is carrying the wheel across the flangeway gap until such point as the flange can again ride on the closure rail. (In other words, as you get closer and closer to a 90 degree crossing - you get less and less "wing rail action".) So, here's the 1st photo (each of the following URLs will wrap so it's copy and paste to get the whole thing into the browser window): http://www.railfan.net/cgi-bin/thumb/abprphoto.cgi?/railpix/ABPR/septe mber01/09-02-01/Diamond3PaolaKs.jpg Next up is a detail shot of this same crossing. Here we are looking at one of the end frogs, and the wear caused by false flanges on the wheels is *really* evident. Indeed, this wear pattern makes it easier to see that the outer portion of wheel tread begins to be supported on the "wing rail portion" of the manganese insert at a point some distance in advance of the flangeway gap. Just trace the path of a wheel running from screen lower right to screen upper left. See how the wear pattern to the left of the frog point begins at a location prior to the 1/2" point of the frog? No? Well, then, try this -- Draw a horizontal line between the two points of wear - the outer ones to the left and right of the frog point. Notice how this line crosses the rails of the frog some distance behind the point of the frog? Yes? Good! Now you got it. Also clearly evident in this photo are what are called risers. False flanges on wheels make it necessary to slowly raise the wheel rather than allow the false flange to abruptly collide with the backside of a rail or other part of a turnout or crossing. Do you see that rectangular part of the casting that extends back toward the viewer and alongside the running rail on each side of the inner or crotch portion of the frog? The vertical side of this portion of the casting is bolted to the running rail. It's the top surface of that "tongue" that is of interest here. Please notice how it slopes upwardly from its near end until, as it gets closer to the actual point of the frog, it is level with the adjacent rail. More importantly, notice how the wear on the riser's top surface begins *before* the transverse joint between the casting and the adjacent rail. That gives you a good feel for how deep false flanges can be. Notice how obvious it is that the center of the left-hand approaching rail is not as worn as the wear evident along its two edges - this wear pattern being even more obvious once the wheels are running on the top surface of the casting portion. This wear pattern is witness to the prevalence of cupped worn tread profiles traversing this crossing. It's now time for photo number 2: http://www.railfan.net/cgi-bin/thumb/abprphoto.cgi?/railpix/ABPR/septe mber01/09-02-01/Diamond2PaolaKs.jpg Finally, we move on to the photo of the spring frog. (We are here to look for wear patterns and to understand the operation of the frog - so please ignore the folks shown in the photo who insist that it is fun to be run over by a train.) First off, notice that once again we see a riser - here it is located in the crotch of the frog. And once again we can see wear left on the top surface of the riser by the false flanges of the wheels passing through on the main road through the turnout - not to mention the false flange wear (groove!) evident on the top surface of the sprung wing rail! Since this is a spring frog, there is no flangeway gap to bedevil wheels passing through the frog on the main route. Indeed, the wheel sees the frog pretty much as if it were a solid piece of rail - which, of course, is why spring frogs were invented in the first place. However, if you mentally shove the sprung wing rail back by the distance of one flangeway width from its companion frog point rail, then I think you can clearly see how that wing rail would support the wheel until the wheel had rolled not only past the frog point but also rolled past the flangeway gap beyond. The deep wear caused by false flanges, evident in this photo, dramatically demonstrates the actual width of the wheel. Keeping that width in mind, use your Mark I eyeball to visualize the process of a wheel traversing the other path through the turnout - i.e., moving away from you, the viewer, and along the left hand frog point rail - the wheel using the backside of its flange to nudge the left hand sprung wing rail over against the springs and thereby gain the wheel's passage through the frog. Notice that the outer edge of the wheel tread will first begin riding on the right hand wing rail at least eight inches in advance of where the wheel passes beyond the 1/2" point of the frog and thereby ceases to be supported by any portion of the frog point. From that point (pun intended), it's home free for a smooth transition to running on the closure rail. Here is Photo 3: http://www.railfan.net/cgi-bin/thumb/abprphoto.cgi?/railpix/ABPR/septe mber01/09-04-01/Frog1.jpg When I began this mini-essay, I suggested that the manganese inserts in the crossing frogs and the sprung wing rail in the spring frog might be confusing. Now that I am done, I think that I am convinced that this potential for confusion is outweighed by the fact that these particular trackage components clearly show the wear patterns produced by false flanges and thereby give a vivid visual cue in each photo as to the width of the wheels. Also, just for ducks and in each instance, please do attempt some mental gymnastics with regard to the photos by mentally doubling the flangeway width while still holding the wheel tread width constant. To do this you first scoot the wing rails out to twice the flangeway width shown in the photos - and then - you will also have to slide the wing rails toward the points of the turnout (away from the point of the frog) so that the gauge edge of the closure rails will remain aligned with the gauge edge of the frog point rails. If you are successful in this exercise, you will see how the wing rails *are not now able to support* the constant tread width wheel across the flangeway gap of your now rearranged turnout. There goes our constant tread width wheel, right off the tip of the point. I'll let you be the one to visualize what you next will see - and hear! Oh dear, what to do? Well, for starters, try doubling the width of the wheel tread. Hmmm. Starting to look like a 110 thou. width wheel and a 50 thou. width flangeway -- Isn't it? So, I'll now leave you where Mike Brock left you, together with my hope that the foregoing will help you to better understand how the width of a wheel tread interacts with both flangeway width and with wing rails at frogs. Roger Miener at Tacoma WA
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