Re: Perishable LCL?

Larry Jackman <Ljack70117@...>

LCL was a RR's service not a shipper's service. So unless meat was delivered to the RR's freight house and the RR loaded it into a car it would not be LCL. There was a service where a shipper shipped a carload and had it stop and unload part of it. In This service the shipper paid the freight to the final destination and then paid a flat fee to stop the car to unload part of it. You had a right to make tw
o stops. When I was on the Santa Fe and the UN PAC we never had any LCL meat cars. What other Roads did I do not know.
Also when a car is shipped and is sold en-route or when it reaches the point it was shipped to, the RR's freight agent never has any thing to do with the sale. The sale is between the seller and the buyer. The agent will only handle any RR paper work that is needed.
Please note when an express refer is shipped with a load of strawberries the RR has nothing to do with it except move it. The owner of the berries contacts the express Co (REA) and has a bill of lading made and the REA furnishes a car. He loads them, the REA tells the RR they have a car of berries to move on the next available passenger train. The RR picks it up and charges a switching fee and puts it on their train. There is a way bill for this car and it reads to whom the receiver is. It could be the shipper or some one else. When it reaches where it is going the person on the way bill is notified and he tells REA where he wants it spotted and the RR does so. Then the fun starts. The receiver starts selling the berries and we get to eat strawberry short cake or maybe a pie. MmmmmmGood.
Even if an express shipment is moved in a freight train It is still a REA shipment and the RR is only a carrier. The movement is between the RR and REA.
On the head end of a passenger train there is three kinds of shipments. Mail: The post office leases space and handles the mail with their people. There is Baggage which belongs to the RR and is handled by them and then there is express: REA leases space and handles their own shipments. If there is not enough express it have their own man on board then the pay part of the the baggage man's pay and he also works for them.
Of course this all steam era and to day Amtrak does it all now and mail has wings.
Just to make what I said very clear. Express shipments are not RR shipments but REA shipments and the RR's just furnish the train to move them in.

Thank you
Larry Jackman
Boca Raton FL 33434
I want to die in my sleep like
my grandfather did, not screaming
like the other people in his car.

On Feb 15, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:


Such a system would seem to rule out more than 2 or 3 stops...
before the meat products were spoiled. I have heard many times
of car loads being divided into 3 or 4 LCL loads and making
several stops, not necessarily along a single branch line. As
long as the perishables would not spoil, I see no reason why
such tariffs could not include produce and meats.

I'm familiar with the idea of small LCL shipments being unloaded
(or loaded) directly from a wayfreight, while the car remains in
the train. This seems to me to be the most practical way to handle
small perishable shipments in an expeditious manner. But in the
1950's the only examples I know were in very rural territory.

Tim O'Connor

"Each car contains, on average, less than 100 consignments, which are
loaded in station order."

"The car is then forwarded by fast freight to the first destination to
which there is a consignment, after which it is handled as way freight
and the various consignments are unloaded... Shipments on branch
lines over which such cars do not run are taken out at the junction
point and ordinarily handled from there in box cars in local freight

I am not implying that the above is representative of how all
railroads and/or packers handled all LCL meat and packing-house
products...merely posting what is in the Freight Traffic Red Book.

John Hile
Blackburg, VA

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