Hutchins Ends (Was: Re: Re: Modeling possibilities?)
Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
I looked through "Revenue Freight Cars of the Pere Marquette" and
found a few things relevant to this.
Firstly - the PM's three-panel Hutchins cars were rebuilt from
Secondly, as far as I can gather from the info in the book, the PM's
first cars built with steel ends came in 1919 with 5/5/5 USRA ends,
then switched to 8+8 vertical Vulcan ends on the 85000-85999 series
built starting in 1922.
Relevant to the discussion below, the first series of PM cars
originally built with Hutchins ends was 86000-87499, built in 1923
with 4-panel square-corner ends. After that came the 88000-88349
series, built in 1926 with 4-panel tapered-corner ends.
The 1923 build date of the 86000-series cars matches with the build
dates of some of the P&N's 1100-series cars that had 4-panel,
square-corner ends; the P&N's 24000-series, which are very similar to
the PM's 88000-series, were built in 1925.
I think this evidence serves to clarify the issue somewhat - the
earlier Hutchins ends have the square-corners, and the tapered-corner
ribs are on the later version of the Hutchins end.
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, destron@... wrote:
indent)late Hutchins ends with height extension (square corner with no
ribs are referred to as the late style, and the tapered-corner ribs aremy PM
book at hand to check, but will do so when I go home); I've seen suchthey were
produced, too: Westerfield lists the Southern SU cars as firsthaving the
tapered ends, from 1922; P&N's 1100-series DS cars have build dates ofboxcars (the
ones that went to the AC&Y) were built in 1925 (a photo of 24099 has aseen
three-panel Hutchins ends with square-corner ribs, and those are all on