Gatwood, Elden J SAD <Elden.J.Gatwood@...>
Thanks for bring this to our attention. This seems to be one of the only
places you can go to hear honest information.
With all that being said, what is YOUR current vote for the best (not
perfect) MILW ribside in HO?
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Ed
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:11 AM
To: STMFC Discussion Group
Subject: [STMFC] Buyer Beware: InterMountain Milwaukee Road Rib-Side Box Car
STMFC Discussion Group,
In case any STMFC members were considering buying any of the new
Milwaukee Road postwar rib-side box cars produced by InterMountain, you
should be aware that the model is royally screwed up and unfixable. The
sides have a couple of deficiencies, and the ends and roof are simply
awful. In addition to InterMountain's apparent inability to interpret
plans and photographs, they also didn't bother to understand the body
of these cars were all welded. They actually went to extra work to add
a row of rivets on the sides of the roof eaves where there should be no
rivets present. I'm posting this message so that potential buyers are
made aware of major shortcomings with the model.
The right side of the car lacks a horizontal raised overlapping seam
that runs continuously just above the side sill. The left side has it,
so they just forgot to tool it one the right side! Also, the sides lack
the slightly recessed sheets on both sides of the door frame. On the
model the area around the door frame is flush with the ribbed side
sheets. InterMountain got the recessed side pans nearest the ends
right, but missed doing the same thing to the side pan sheets on both
sides of the door.
Instead of the ends of the main corrugations being rounded (like all
Improved Dreadnaught Ends were), the model's ends have angled flat
spots that basically look like the outer portions were filed flat
(i.e., chamfer). Also, unlike AAR box cars, the top of the Milwaukee
Road end was flat across the top and the roof was prefabricated by
welding and applied as a single unit. This resulted in a prominent
horizontal flange at the top of the end that is quite visible in any
photo showing the end. The top of the InterMountain end is flush and
lacks this flange.
The roof is integral to the sides and ends that form the car body. The
formed double roof corrugations and the wider pressed stiffener on the
outboard end panels are too short near the edge of the roof. The
prototype cars had the raised corrugations fair down to the edge of the
roof, whereas corrugations on the model abruptly stop approximately 4"
short of the edge of the roof. Refer to page 55 of RP CYC Vol. 13 for
what the roof should look like. Some prototype cars had diagonal panel
The separate floor has a wide cast-on coupler box, whereas this should
be left off and either allow modelers to add couplers of their choice,
or for the assembled models in China, have separate coupler boxes to
accept Kadee couplers like InterMountain has done on many of their kits
in the past. The molded-on coupler boxes is a step backwards.
After finding the features of the car body as they are, I didn't bother
to look at the underframe and other detail parts (what's the point?).
One last comment about the model's construction method. I truly don't
understand why on this model InterMountain reverted back to the
Athearn-type car body, which has an integral roof with the sides and
ends rather than the floor being integral and a separate roof. The
latter method has been used by InterMountain for the past 20 years.
This is not an error as such, but my personal preference is to have the
integral floor and separate roof vs. an integral roof and separate