Re: Mineral Service on your Roads


Bob McCarthy
 

Elden,
 
    It occured to me that my daughter's godfather handle AMAX properties in central GA.  I will check with him about the facts.  He was a wizard in the Atlanta legal business in the early 1970's, some of his clients were AMAX and Georgia-Pacific.
 
   He is also a model railroader, although of SP bent.  His father created the Titainium processing plant in Greenville, MS.  I will check on what he knows about cars that brought the Kaolin out of the Sandersville area.  Also, maybe he can provide information on the cars origin that brought the Titainium to Greenville, MS.
 
Bob McCarthy

--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads
To: STMFC@...
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 6:39 PM






Bob;

That is interesting. Do you know where CoG sent their cars? Were there any
specific concerns that went to CoG specifically for their kaolin? Was it
used at all in glass-making, too?

Thanks,

Elden Gatwood

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From: STMFC@yahoogroups. com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bob
McCarthy
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:18 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads

Howdy!

Lately, I have been building and lettering a string of Central of
Georgia two and three bay covered hoppers. They were used in Kaolin service
that has many uses in both the paper (coating), fine china/ceramics, and
medicine (Kaopectate) , etc.

Since most of the members of this site are in HO, I can tell you that
the Central of Georgia Historical Society, Allen Tuten, President, Google it
and you can ask for Micro- scalle decals for these cars.

Bob McCarthy

--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@ usace.army. mil
<mailto:elden. j.gatwood% 40usace.army. mil> > wrote:

From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@ usace.army. mil
<mailto:elden. j.gatwood% 40usace.army. mil> >
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com <mailto:STMFC% 40yahoogroups. com>
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 5:36 PM

Folks;

I have been doing a bunch more reading on minerals shipped by the railroads,
and figure you could have an interest. This may create a more interesting
through or set-out operation for you, or even an on-line industrial
interchange with your road, if we can figure out what cars were used by what
roads, in this service.

We have pretty good ideas of what roads shipped coal, and iron ore, but there
is a lot that can be done to ID some of the rest, some of which was shipped
in open hoppers, others in covered hoppers, and even box cars. Mineral
service was a huge amount of the traffic on most roads, even those you
wouldn't think of, so I hope we can figure some of this out.

Here we go:

Aluminum; source area usually overseas (Guinea, Jamaica, Brazil, India);
would have entered U.S. ports, most eastern.

QUESTIONS: What ports, and shipped by what roads, where destined, how
shipped? How much?

Ammonium Sulfate; by-product of coking industry; used as soil amendment,
white to yellow powder, shipped most often bagged, in box cars. Sources:
Coke Industry - Bethlehem Steel, Colorado Fuel & Iron, Crucible Steel,
Detroit Steel, Eastern Gas & Fuel, Ford Motor Co., Granite City Steel, Inland
Steel, Interlake Iron, International Harvester, Jones & Laughlin, Kaiser
Steel, Merritt-Chapman & Scott-Tennessee Products & Chemical, National Steel,
Pittsburgh Coke & Chemical, Pittsburgh Steel, Republic Steel, Sharon Steel,
U.S. Pipe & Foundry, U.S. Steel (numerous locations), Wheeling Steel,
Woodward Iron, Youngstown Sheet & Tube (to start) If you want more details
about any of these facilities' production rates or locations, ask!

Questions: Where did all this bagged product go first, before it went to
local feed & fertilizer distributors?

Calcium Carbide: grayish-white mineral used in de-sulphurization of iron.
Also used in deoxidization at the ladle, in treatment.

QUESTIONS: Sources? Shipped by what roads? Are these the cylindrical tanks
we have seen shipped on the NYC and RI in dedicated service rack flats? How
much of this was shipped?

Chromium: blue-white ore; by 1952, 40% was coming from Turkey, 38% South
Africa, some from s. Egypt & Cuba (i.e., 79% import), with small amounts from
Montana, California, Oregon, and Alabama. Used in ferrochromium production.
Most coming through ports of Philadelphia, Baltimore (others??). Shipped
most often in open twin hoppers not filled to volumetric capacity due to
weight. Most headed to specialty steel-making facilities (and small
industrial chromium coating concerns, but first through where?)

QUESTIONS: What other ports, and shipped by what roads? How much?

More minerals, later! Any input appreciated.

Elden Gatwood

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