Re: "A" Railroads Base Fleet
Armand Premo
Dave,Not wishing to continue beating a dead horse,but did your research reveal any regional biases or seasonal variances ?Armand Premo
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From: Dave Nelson To: STMFC@... Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] "A" Railroads Base Fleet Charlie Vlk wrote: > Wheel reports, photos of entire trains, or overall photos of yards > for the road you are modeling or similar ones in the region you are > interested in, in your era, would be more instructive than a > mathematical model.... if you can find such documents. Charlie Vlk And so we did. Charlie, when I developed the hypothesis I did not have any wheel reports but with the understanding that a good set of such documents would either confirm or refute the whole idea, I went out and purchased as many as I could. About that time I met Tim Muir and he too was looking for wheel reports, pretty much for the same reason, and from that point on we collaborated on our analysis. Tim took a much more vocal role in promoting the idea than I did and on his own he explored and discussed the possibility that the hypothesis could also be applied to ordinary flat cars. Eventually we collected quite a few wheel reports. I have about 30 for the Southern, and individual books from the NYC, UP, SN, and something else I don't recall right now, and a Yard Jumbo from the W≤ Tim had his own set, which I know included another some from the Southern as well as the UP... the others don't come to mind right now. The wheel reports did, IMO, confirm the basic hypothesis and allowed us to further specify when it applied: Post WWII, on mainline trunk routes, excluding home road boxcars, the percentage of boxcars marked for foreign roads will closely match the percentages of boxcars contributed to the US fleet by each railroad. By boxcar, I mean one that can be put into general purpose use. The wheel reports do show a bit of a bias towards nearby connections, but here I believe the sample size of locations that we have is too small to make a good hypothesis on that point. Further, as almost all railroads contributed less than 5% of the national fleet (most less than 1.5%), even a large bias towards local connections would compute to a very small number per 100 foreign road boxcars. Last, the hypothesis makes no predicition on what one might observe in individual trains. As to the available alternatives: IMO yard photos can be useful but the number of home road cars is usually wildly over-represented as compared to what the railroads reported to the ICC. Photos of whole trains are one data point, the same as a wheel report, but as single trains are usually blocks from connections (or destinations), their makeup is very likely *not* representative of what you'd record after observing a set of freight trains on the same route in the same period of time. They also have the same problem as yard shots -- it's just one point in time. Based on the wheel reports, it's clear that things vary all of the time. A sample from one moment, as what a photo shows, is simply not going to be fully representative. So in the end, it is my opinion that wheel reports do provide the sample that's useful, and they do confirm the mathematical model -- not precisely -- but very, very well. Dave Nelson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.17/2095 - Release Date: 05/04/09 06:00:00 |
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