Re: RC PFE R-30-12-9

Armand Premo

Thanks Tim.Quess I am out of my neighborhood again.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RC PFE R-30-12-9


The first model Red Caboose did was neither an R-30-12 or
an R-30-9 (i.e. R-30-12-9) -- it was the height of an R-30-12
but had some R-30-9 features. RC quickly redid the car with the
correct height and door etc, and this was the R-30-9 (-12-9)
and in addition later did the lower height R-30-12 body. As Tony
notes the prototype cars received various modifications and
changes in their service lives and the classes co-existed for
a long time as well. Many cars were rebuilt without the hatch
platforms and received modern ice hatches too -- so it's best
to have a good book on this subject! (i.e. the PFE book)

A quick Google Desktop search shows me most of the emails on
this subject happened before STMFC, back in the "freightcars"
mailing list era, at the dawn of time...

Tim O'Connor

At 5/12/2009 08:57 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
>Armand Premo wrote:
>> Thank you Tony .This begs other questions,RC-4101-1has ladders
>> on sides and ends and a power hand brake.RC 4101-2 has side ladders
>> and end grabs with a stem winder hand brake.Both cars have K
>> brakes,T section trucks and both had reweigh dates of 1939.With
>> those differences are they both correct?How long were they carried
>> on the roster in those configurations.
> I'm sorry, I don't have those kits myself and don't know exactly
>which bodies they are. But AFAIK all of the -9 rebuilds received steel
>ladders, sides and ends, along with power handbrakes, when rebuilt
>during 1938-1940. Most kept their T-section trucks until after WW II,
>when many got AAR trucks. The earlier cars in the class kept their
>original KC brakes, but soon after WW II they began to get AB brakes.
>For a 1939 reweigh date, I'd say a -9 should NOT have grab iron rows
>or vertical-staff handbrakes. But if it's an R-30-12 car, it certainly
>could have.
> What class lettering is on the car bodies?
>Tony Thompson


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