Re: Those Pesky Offset Twin hoppers
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Ed,
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Are talking about extended-ends and end-extensions when we mention "heap-shields"? Don't what is slang and what is "correct" terminology for these. Al Kresse
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From: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:15:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [STMFC] Those Pesky Offset Twin hoppers On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Bill Welch wrote: <SNIP> So okay they are only doing one basic car body, especially as relatedBill, The L&N had 3 series representing 5,000 prototype cars having side arrangements essentially matching the Kadee model (not considering any variations in the orientation of the side-stake angles). These were series 32000-33999 (P-S 3-49), 76150-77649 (BSC 12-47), and 77750-79149 (P-S 3-48). As you pointed out, the difference is the end arrangement having angular notched heap shields. If Kadee tooled a new pair of ends having these heap shields, then additional models would include A&WP, GA, Montour, SL-SF, TC, and WofA representing an additional 925 prototype cars. If Kadee would tool the flat end arrangement used by B&O on their N-41 and N-44 cars (having regular AAR underframes) with Z-section vertical supports, 8,000 prototype cars for B&O, LNE, and P&S would be accurately represented (and possibly 500 more cars for CRP/CNJ). Kadee has not yet produced models for two roads (ATSF and SL-SF) that otherwise would match their model because the prototype cars had Enterprise Type D door locks. Kadee offers models having Enterprise latch and Wine door locks, which were the two most common types. The NYC cars have been announced, and perhaps soon the C&EI cars will be produced. Regarding your comments about adopting a modular approach, Kadee's model was designed essentially as a module in which each side and each end are separate inserts. The core compromises the slope sheets and hopper bottoms. Everything else is a detail part. Theoretically a new pair of end inserts having the notched angular heap shields could be tooled. The ends would be identical to the flat-top ends currently available except they would have the correct heap shields for your L&N cars and other roads identified above. In my conversations with Kadee, it's my understanding that the company has considered tooling ends having the heap shields as well as the ends correct for the B&O N-41 and N-44 cars. Why hasn't Kadee produced these variations? It comes down to the tooling cost versus the profit potential. It's apparent to me that Kadee hasn't been able to justify the cost versus the projected profit to be made for either of these variations. If an entrepreneur or the L&N/B&O Historical Society could guarantee sufficient sales to Kadee (i.e., a proprietary project), then I believe Kadee would be open to tool the new ends. Regards, Ed Hawkins [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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