Re: 1947-era Covered Hopper Question
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sorry, Fred, I did not add that grain on the PRR was shipped in box cars. I
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have several photos of PRR cars with grain doors fitted, in that service. PRR also used box cars, fitted with temporary grain doors, and extra sealing, for flour, also. I have color photos into the 60's of PRR box cars covered in white flour. PRR did not start using covered hoppers in grain, barley malt, flour, etc, until the late 50's, or 1960 (the latter I think) when they bought some Airslides, and then in 1964 or so, they bought a bunch of high cube covered hoppers specifically for grain, and other food products. The H30, H32, H33 and H34 were all bought for cement, sand, chemical additives, and other non-food products. Elden Gatwood
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Frederick Freitas Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:43 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] 1947-era Covered Hopper Question Elden, I need to ask at this point >>> in 1942, Scully yard on the Panhandle had 6 tracks added on to for the purpose of inspecting grain shipments before passing through Pitts. area. If I understand you, the PRR did not use their equipment for this purpose. Now I question what cars were used in the grain business from 1942 to 1954. Off line covered hoppers appear to be the right idea; eg: SP, GN, UP, and midwest RR's. Anyone care to enlighten me, and others who may still wonder. Fred Freitas --- On Wed, 11/4/09, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@... <mailto:elden.j.gatwood%40usace.army.mil> > wrote: From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@... <mailto:elden.j.gatwood%40usace.army.mil> > Subject: RE: [STMFC] 1947-era Covered Hopper Question To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 2:12 PM Ralph; I cannot tell you with certainty, but for comparison, the PRR did not haul food products in covered hoppers until much later, and only then, in giant new covered hoppers like the PS-2CD. Elden Gatwood -----Original Message----- From: STMFC@yahoogroups. com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:51 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com Subject: [STMFC] 1947-era Covered Hopper Question Please excuse a question that may be very sophmoric as well as being burried somewhere within the message archives, but I was wondering if someone could enlighten me to the use of covered hoppers in food stuff service, circa 1947. I realize that covered hoppers go back to the late 1930's, but were typically used to haul chemicals and cement, not grains, as they have been almost exclusively since the 1960's. The issue is this - I have a friend who wants to model a brewery circa 1947, so would ANY of the incoming grain/malt/barley have been delivered in covered hoppers, or would it have all still been transported via boxcars? The RR in question is the NYC, the locale New York City. Thank you, Ralph Heiss S. Plainfield, NJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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