Re: Bieber 1947 4th quarter *02 cars (GN, WP Interchange At Bieber)


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Allen,
  Thanks for the reply.  Since you are researching Bieber in 1947, I'll assume we share somewhat of a common interest in that place and time.

  My freelanced railroad (Burney, Redding & Western) interchanges with both the GN and the WP in Bieber.  I have some questions, which you may have some information about, regarding the coordination (or lack thereof) of the WP and GN arrivals and departures in Bieber.  Did the bulk of the GN train become the WP and vice versa?  If so, why are there twice as many WP trains as GN (I recognize the timetables are ofset by 2.5 years, which might explain the whole difference)?  I'd like to see a GN timetable from 1947 or a WP timetable from 1950 for Bieber to come arrivals and departures.

  I have an original WP Western Division Timetable (34) dated June 1, 1947.  I also have a copy of a GN Klamath Division Timetable (10) dated January 1, 1950.

  The WP timetable lists four "regular / scheduled" trains per day arriving or departing Bieber:
 1) Eastward 2nd Class #154 Western Pacific Fast Freight arriving 2:00 AM
 2) Eastward 2nd Class #178 Western Pacific Fast Freight arriving 10:40 AM
 3) Westward 2nd Class #153 Western Pacific Fast Freight departing 12:30 AM
 4) Westward 2nd Class #177 Western Pacific Fast Freight departing 1:00 PM

 The GN timetable lists two "regular / scheduled" trains per day arriving or departing Bieber:
 1) Eastward 2nd Class #386 departing 3:00 AM
 2) Westward 2nd Class #387 arriving 6:55 PM

 Again, I'm curious how the cars were routed / forwarded through Bieber to/from the GN to/from the WP.

 Thanks in advance.

Al Daumann
 
 

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From: Allen Rueter <allen_282@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 8:15:16 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Bieber 1947 4th quarter *02 cars

Al,
I'm working on transcribing what some refer to as a jumbo book, it is a log of cars received and forwarded at Bieber 1947, Oct-Dec.
The log book is ordered by the last two digits, with in a pair of pages it is ordered by the last 3 digits of the car number.
so *02 covers cars where the last two digits are 02, clear as mud?

If you look in the files section, you will some detailed ones that end in 00
( http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/STMFC/ files/gn% 20wp%20station% 20log%20bieber% 20/ )
--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO

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From: Al Daumann <sp-blackwidow@ sbcglobal. net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 11:19:02 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Bieber 1947 4th quarter *02 cars

Greetings,
I'm new to the group, does this refer to an earlier discussion? I model a freelanced road that interchanges with the GN at Bieber (Nubieber) in the late 1940s. I'm always looking for new / addtional information.

What does *02 cars stand for?

Al Daumann

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From: allen_282 <allen_282@yahoo. com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 8:31:00 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Bieber 1947 4th quarter *02 cars

cars numbers ending with 02 at Bieber 4th quarter out of 259
GN - 40 - tho 2 cars make up 30 entries, with 2-5 day cycle times.
ATsf - 29
Rg/DRG - 28
SP - 17
PFE - 14
Pa/PRR - 12
BO - 8
CBQ - 7
NYC - 7
UTLX -7
IC - 5
RI - 5
Sou - 5
UP - 5
WP - 5
TCX -4
CO - 3
CSVX - 3 (all same car)
DLW - 3
FGE - 3
GATX - 3
LN - 3
Milw - 3
REX - 3
SCCX - 3
strays - ACL,ART,BLE, CGW,CEI,CNW, CRP,CRR, Erie, HTCX, MP, NH, NKP,
NP, NS, NW, PM, Pmcky (SF)Rd , SAL, SLSF, UCR, Wab, WLE

Allen Rueter
while watching the Packers win :)

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