Re: Scalecoat I over Floquil over styrene

Schuyler Larrabee

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
Mmmm, certainly not what the paint chemist who mixed Scalecoat told
me . . . Weaver at Quality Craft referred me to the chemist to ask
about mixing such a paint. He said that he was in the process at
that time (this is ca. 1982 or so) of finding suitable substitute
coloring agents to be able to match the colors he'd created when
lead was an acceptable component of paint, and that it was proving
to be an extremely hard and frustrating exercise. He believed that
it was simply not possible to achieve a dead match to colors
prepared with lead compounds. IIRC, this also applied to a few
other coloring agents, but I don't
Two points: first, I was responding to Denny's comment about
VIVID colors, not about precise color matches. And second, if I were
going to do color matching, I'd hire an artist, not a chemist. Visit
any art store and tell me you can't get colors to be mixed. About that
Erie green? That one I can't answer, but I'd be REALLY surprised to
hear that it "can't be matched."

Tony Thompson
VIVIDness is exactly what the Chemist was talking about. And you need a chemist when you're working
with the elements in the coloring agents that go into the paint and you want it to be stable. I
remember that he was lamenting that to create a yellow, EL Yellow, since he knew I was interested in
that, without the ability to use chrome, was a real trial. Sure you can go to the paint store and
get any color you can find matched, at least pretty close. But that's latex, generally, and your
average house painter or housewife who's decided it would be great if the dining room were painted a
nice green is not the same customer who is going to take a bottle of paint and airbrush a swatch of
it onto a card and go hold it against some prototype in a museum and bitch that it's not
EXACTLY<<<< correct, and also will expect that paint to look exactly the same 30 years from now.
Dining rooms get repainted every once in a while, and probably not the same color.

There are two ERIE greens. The dark is the same as NP dark green. The lighter color, really a
gray-green, is NOT a match for the NP color. According to Ron Sebastian who has the original paint
materials from EMD, that gray-green color was not used on ANY other EMD locomotive.


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