Re: Burning boxcar photo help

Steve and Barb Hile

I remember struggling with deciding whether this one was a RI car, or not,
when we were picking slides for the book. In the end, we conclude that it
was a car from the RI series 140000- 140999 as shown in RP Cyc 18. There
are a number of matching spotting features and no real glaring
discrepancies. It would be nice to be able to see the trucks better in the
photo, but they look like the Dalman 2 levels that were on the RI cars.

It was such a cool shot and shows details in ways not normally seen as well
as illustrating the loose loading of coke in a boxcar.


Steve Hile


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There were a lot of variations on the XM-1 design, in ends and roofs and
doors and other less visible features, to the point of discussion whether
certain cars are or aren't "true" XM-1s. Pat Wider discusses them in RP CYC
18, pp 31-56.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

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I thought all XM-1's had flat plate riveted ends. This car is from
Rock Island 140000-140999 built by AC&F in 1929 w/ dreadnaught ends
and a Murphy radial roof. The classic XM-1 had a peaked roof. I'll
admit in other respects it does look a lot like an XM-1.

Tim O'Connor

At 4/17/2010 10:02 AM Saturday, you wrote:
All, In Morning Sun Book, Rock Island Color Guide to Freight and
Passenger Equipment on page 34 there is a photo of a burning boxcar. I
believe it is a XM-1 boxcar design based on pratt truss and end design.
Is it an XM-1?
Lester Breuer

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