John,

My comment was a bit brief and addressing only cars repainted after 1948. I didn't take notice of the car in the picture being a "clone" car rather than a true USRA (Thanks, Bob, for pointing that out.), although painting and lettering and side ladder features would be expected to be the same for both categories. So for a true USRA car with the scheme in the "clone" photo using the See America First monogram, see Bob's thorough info on the pre-1948 scheme and use a 23494-24993 car number. If you need a photo of a post 1948 all mineral red scheme version with the GNR monogram, let me know.

As a side note, it appears that the next similar construction series built in 1924, the 30000 series of 1½ door automobile cars, received side ladders from the start. At least there is a photo of a car serviced in 1925 featuring side ladders.

Staffan

----- Original Message -----
From: John
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:32 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: GN USRA DS Box Cars



Hi Steffan,

Thanks for the information. If I model the car in the photo referenced by Mr. Gjermundson I should be safe. So, for the record, we're talking entirely Mineral Red body with side facing goat, correct? How about color of the underframe and trucks?

Thank you!

John Golden
Bloomington, IN

--- In STMFC@..., "Staffan Ehnbom" <staffan.ehnbom@> wrote:
>
> The GN USRA double wood sheath box cars definitely had individual grab irons as built. But as the picture Aaron links to, by 1948 they would have recieved ladders.
>
> For a 1950 model mineral red would be correct for the entire car including roof ends and underframe.
>
> Staffan Ehnbom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aaron Gjermundson
> To: STMFC@...
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:51 PM
> Subject: [STMFC] Re: GN USRA DS Box Cars
>
>
>
> John,
>
> As for your ladder question on a GN USRA box car, I am not sure if I have ever seen a picture of one with the grab irons. The majority of them would have had the ladders.
>
> Here is a link to some information.
>
> http://www.steamfreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/gn25096main.html
>
> Also, at the Westerfield website there is some information along with their kit #3815 description.
>
> http://www.westerfield.biz/
>
> Aaron
>
> --- In STMFC@..., John Golden <golden1014@> wrote:
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> >
> > I'm finishing a GN USRA DS box car, and was wondering if you might be able to lend advice on painting. For a model circa 1950, would correct paint be all mineral red, or mineral red with black ends and roof? Also, what is the correct underframe color? Or, are there multiple variations for my timeframe?
> >
> > I also understand some GN cars had ladders that replaced the grabs on the car sides. At what time did that modification occur, and would you know if that mod was made for certain cars or the entire fleet?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Golden
> > Bloomington, IN
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>