Re: Atlas 1932 boxcar...

Gatwood, Elden J SAD

I suspect some masters are done with the rivet shaving technique, and some
are done with a NWSL riveter. I was talking to Steve Funaro about his new
X26C, and his wife commented to me that he was using his Riveter on the sides
and did something wrong which resulted in him swearing at length and throwing
out the side and starting over. The rivets on that model are all very
uniform and evenly spaced. I think there is a visible difference between the
two techniques close up.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of James
F. Brewer
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:57 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 boxcar...

I thought the Sunshine 1932 cars were created for Martin by F&C early on; is
this correct? If so, this might possibly account for some of the issues.

Jim Brewer

Glenwood MD

----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <golden1014@... <> >
To: STMFC@... <>
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2010 9:45:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 boxcar...

Hi Tim,

I considered doing just that--copy-casting the Sunshine doors and using them
on the Atlas model. However, I found that fixing a Sunshine door on the Atlas
car would be taking a step backwards because the Sunshine details looked
sloppy compared to the Atlas model. I was amazed.

I don't recall there being a dimensional issue with the doors.

It's heresy to complain about a Sunshine model among the faithful, but quite
frankly the details on the Atlas model are very clear and sharp, even if not
totally accurate, and they make some the details on the Sunshine car look
"blobby". I found the same problem recently when finishing an ACL 1937 box
car. Mont sent me some doors copied from a Sunshine kit to finish an ACL
O-25, but they looked terrible against the Red Caboose carbody. I simply cut
off the Union Duplex rollers and fixed them to the RC doors to get the door I
wanted. I think Mont ended up doing the same thing.

Incidentally I have not noted this detail disparity with Westerfield or
Speedwitch products.


John Golden
Bloomington, IN

--- In STMFC@... <> , Tim O'Connor
<timboconnor@...> wrote:

John, I haven't seen the Atlas cars, but if the Sunshine doors are
accurate, why not just make copy castings of them for use on the Atlas
model? Or is there a technical reason this doesn't work (like a
dimensional issue)?

Tim O'Connor

Thanks for the message. I like your approach to the coupler box problem. I
would probably build up more of the Atlas cars if it weren't for that and the
doors, and--of course--finding the time to do the job.

I painted my car with Scalecoat BC Red (#1) and masked off the black
later. I'm not the world's most patient masker, so I just get it close and
touch up any overspray later. I normally use regular masking tape, but I just
me some of that Tamiya masking tape and I'm eager to try it out.


John Golden
Bloomington, IN
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