Re: reefer yellow (was New ART Steel Reefer Runs Now Available)

mopac1 <mopac1@...>


Where did you take the color pictures of the new A.R. T. equipment? What
film did you use? They shots could certainly be an interesting addition to
the ART book.

From diagrams and railroad painting information we have available, they call
the car sides to be either chrome yellow or yellow. Unfortunately, they do
not a paint manufacturer or number to make a color match. The few builders
color negatives and color transparencies all have bright yellow sides. So
comparing them to your photos would be very helpful.

Gene Semon

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:04 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: reefer yellow (was New ART Steel Reefer Runs Now


"Yellow" is a slippery term. For example, Maine Central's "Harvest Yellow"
is an almost exact match for SFRD reefer orange. I have too many color shots
of brand new or freshly painted ART reefers in light orange in the 1950's
to call it anything else but light orange. The Northern Pacific was another
railroad that for many years was misrepresented by vendors as having yellow
steel reefers. I have some R-40-23's from Evergreen Roundhouse (usually a
reliable custom painter) in an almost "banana yellow" color, instead of the
proper pale orange. (Intermountain actually did NP reefer colors correctly.)
But... some NP reefers FADED to a definite pale yellow color! So paint
can really lead us astray.

Tim O'Connor


Prior to the 1964 color change to orange with the N&W's acquisition the
Wabash, virtually all A.R.T. reefers were painted with yellow sides. Some
do appear to shift towards orange in color photos or as they age & weather.
As Tim mentions, a small class of insulated boxcars assigned to the Wabash
were painted a dark blue. This was short lived, just about a six month

An A.R.T. book is in the works with Tony. Hopefully it will follow the MDT

Gene Semon


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