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Accident photos

Schuyler Larrabee
 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/tags/railroadaccidents

The Boston Public Library is putting their very large photo collections on
line via Flickr. Recently they have uploaded a large number of railroad
accident photos. While some are pretty revolting, many show freight cars
(and other railroad equipment) in unusual attitudes, showing the nether
regions of cars and some roof shot. Naturally, these are mostly B&M, B&A,
NH photos, and they run the range of era, though most will be of interest to
steam era folks.

There is one shot in particular that I found very interesting. A steam
locomotive, apparently sideswiped hard enough to actually break off the left
cylinder from the steam chest, exposing the interior of the casting.

SGL





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CB&Q XA-16 brake layout

al_brown03
 

Hi y'all --

I'm in the process of detailing an old C&BT Shops 40' double-door shell with 1/3/4 Improved Dreadnaught ends and rectangular-panel roof, as a Burlington XA-16 auto car (39000-39499, later 9000-9499) which AFAIK is the closest prototype. (That combination of ends and roof is semi-unusual.) After looking at several published pictures including those in RP CYC 13, I still have two questions about the major brake components:

(1) Which side of the center sill is the reservoir on?
(2) Where is the AB valve located?

Can anyone point me at a source of this info?

-- TIA --

-- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: ERDX reefers

Armand Premo
 

Roger,I am specifically looking for information of the late forties:Colors,Brake system,trucks ,cut levers .etc.Are there any models in current production (resin or otherwise)that would pass as an accurate model or the basis for a reasonably accurate conversion?Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "ROGER HINMAN" <rhinman11@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] ERDX reefers


I can help you with ERDX but you may want to be a bit more specific in your question. (time frame, etc). Most of the ERDX cars are discussed in the MDT book.


Roger Hinman
On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:14 PM, appremo wrote:

Looking for information on ERDX and Wilson reefers.Any help beyond the ORER will be appreciated.Armand Premo






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Re: Keith Retterer photos

ROGER HINMAN
 

It was $5 when I ordered some last year

Roger HInman
On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:49 PM, lrkdbn wrote:

Hi,list:

Does anyone know what Keith Retterer is currently charging for his
pictures?

Thanks in advance
Larry King
<lrkdbn@...>



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Re: ERDX reefers

ROGER HINMAN
 

I can help you with ERDX but you may want to be a bit more specific in your question. (time frame, etc). Most of the ERDX cars are discussed in the MDT book.


Roger Hinman
On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:14 PM, appremo wrote:

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Re: P2K 50' roofs redux

Armand Premo
 

TWO (2) Resin 50 ' Viking roofs for sale.<G> Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hendrickson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux



On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Paul Lyons wrote:

> Armand,
> Tom was making referrence to the roofs on the models, not the
> prototype. None of the P2K models had Viking roofs. I am not sure
> about the prototypes, except some of the NKP cars had Viking roofs.
> I am sure there were others

No, actually the only model that should have had a Viking roof and
didn't was the NKP double door auto car, and that was a mistake. I
say that as one of the consultants on that project who should have
caught the mistake but didn't. None of the photos and information we
then had on the NKP cars showed them with Viking roofs. And, yes,
the roofs on the double door cars were a bit lame, though they were
corrected on the single door cars. At that time, Life-Like was
trying to overcome its image as a purveyor of cheap toy train junk
and the P2K models were, on the whole, as good or better than their
competition for the serious scale modeler market (and still hold up
pretty well even in today's market, which is why Walthers keeps re-
issuing them).

Richard Hendrickson








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Etched running boards for F&C Erie built 1951 Dunmore Shops Covered Hoppers

bn2204
 

G'Day Everyone,

I'm presently building 5 of the West Shore/Funaro & Carmerlango Erie built 1951 Dunmore Shops covered hoppers, and I want to replace the awful looking running boards with Plano etched running boards. The resin kits come with resin Apex running boards, but after looking at a few pictures of the prototype, it appears that the cars were delivered with Morton running boards, or something close to the Morton design. After reviewing Plano's website, I realized that they only manufacture an Apex running board that's designed to fit the ConCor/Walthers 3-bay PS2. Close enough in length, the Plano Apex running boards could work on the resin kits I'm building, but the result would still not provide me with the correct running boards. I did purchase a few of the 40' and 50' boxcar Morton running boards that Plano produces to see if I could bash something out of those, but the length of each running board segment is too long to fit between the roof supports on the covered hoppers.

So my question is…Has anyone attempted to correct the F&C running boards w/etched Morton running boards?

Darrall Swift – Colorado Springs


Re: P2K 50' roofs redux

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Armand Premo wrote:

Paul,I may be incorrect,but I thought the Erie had a Viking
roof.Armand Premo
Armand, some earlier Erie double door auto cars had Viking roofs but
the series modeled by the P2K cars did not.


Richard Hendrickson


Re: P2K 50' roofs redux

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Paul Lyons wrote:

Armand,
Tom was making referrence to the roofs on the models, not the
prototype. None of the P2K models had Viking roofs. I am not sure
about the prototypes, except some of the NKP cars had Viking roofs.
I am sure there were others
No, actually the only model that should have had a Viking roof and
didn't was the NKP double door auto car, and that was a mistake. I
say that as one of the consultants on that project who should have
caught the mistake but didn't. None of the photos and information we
then had on the NKP cars showed them with Viking roofs. And, yes,
the roofs on the double door cars were a bit lame, though they were
corrected on the single door cars. At that time, Life-Like was
trying to overcome its image as a purveyor of cheap toy train junk
and the P2K models were, on the whole, as good or better than their
competition for the serious scale modeler market (and still hold up
pretty well even in today's market, which is why Walthers keeps re-
issuing them).

Richard Hendrickson


Re: P2K 50' roofs redux

Paul Lyons
 

Armand,
My email read "I am not sure about the prototypes, except some of the NKP cars had Viking roofs. I am sure there were others" Erie may be one of the others!
Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Armand Premo <armprem2@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2011 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux




Paul,I may be incorrect,but I thought the Erie had a Viking roof.Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Lyons
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux

Armand,
Tom was making referrence to the roofs on the models, not the prototype. None of the P2K models had Viking roofs. I am not sure about the prototypes, except some of the NKP cars had Viking roofs. I am sure there were others
Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Armand Premo <armprem2@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2011 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux

Tom,How many of them had Viking roofs?Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
From: pullmanboss
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux

I had an off-list question asking if the roofs on all the Proto 2000 50' cars were poorly rendered. This was discussed here many years ago but it's probably worth reiterating: the roof on the 50' SINGLE door P2K 50' boxcar is correct (and very nicely done), the ones on the two 50' DOUBLE door cars (with or without end door) are not.

Tom Madden

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Re: P2K 50' roofs redux

Armand Premo
 

Paul,I may be incorrect,but I thought the Erie had a Viking roof.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Lyons
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux




Armand,
Tom was making referrence to the roofs on the models, not the prototype. None of the P2K models had Viking roofs. I am not sure about the prototypes, except some of the NKP cars had Viking roofs. I am sure there were others
Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Armand Premo <armprem2@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2011 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux

Tom,How many of them had Viking roofs?Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
From: pullmanboss
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux

I had an off-list question asking if the roofs on all the Proto 2000 50' cars were poorly rendered. This was discussed here many years ago but it's probably worth reiterating: the roof on the 50' SINGLE door P2K 50' boxcar is correct (and very nicely done), the ones on the two 50' DOUBLE door cars (with or without end door) are not.

Tom Madden

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Cotton Belt 36000-38499 DS Boxcars With Side Straps!

gary laakso
 

Vol III, Number 2 of Locomotive Quarterly at page 56 has a mid train helper picture dated June 29, 1941. Cotton Belt 36040 ( repaint date is 7-40) is being pushed by DRGW USRA 2-8-8-2 mallet 3501. The boxcar has 2 diagonal straps on the part of the car between the end and the side door. The one running from the top of the edge of the car ends on the side of the car over the center of the truck bolster. The second strap starts at the bottom edge of the door and reaches the fascia on the side near the rear of the truck, so there is no overlap of the straps. Of course, the door is much darker than the car side. The photo ends in the middle of the door so there is not a full side view of the car.

Is it fair to assume straps (the end of the car strap has 4 bolts and 2 anchor bolts near the base of the side while the door strap has 3 bolts holding it and 2 anchor bolts) are in similar locations on the other ends and side of the car? It sure looks odd with those 2 straps on the side of a double sheathed car!


gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
vasa0vasa@...


Re: Charlie Duckworth's freight cars

Tim O'Connor
 

If you go to (or belong to) the Yahoo "weathering" group, you can see 21
photos of Charlie's layout and freight car work in the Photos area under the
heading of "Mopac Bagnell Branch".

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weathering/photos/album/752925297/pic/2063287079/view

Tim O'Connor

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Clark Propst wrote:

I read where Charlie Duckworth will ask a question about a freight car on this list once in awhile. I had to opportunity to operate on Charlie's layout last Friday. Charlie has achieved an excellent blend of prototype track arrangements, buildings, and scenery. But it's the resin freight cars at add the icing on the cake. Well done Charlie!

Richard Hendrickson wrote:

Yes, Charlie has always maintained a low profile, perhaps because he's busy building models instead of yakking on the list, but one can tell from the questions he asks that he is a serious and accomplished freight car modeler. I envy you the opportunity to operate on his layout.


Re: P2K 50' roofs redux

Paul Lyons
 

Armand,
Tom was making referrence to the roofs on the models, not the prototype. None of the P2K models had Viking roofs. I am not sure about the prototypes, except some of the NKP cars had Viking roofs. I am sure there were others
Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Armand Premo <armprem2@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2011 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux




Tom,How many of them had Viking roofs?Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
From: pullmanboss
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux

I had an off-list question asking if the roofs on all the Proto 2000 50' cars were poorly rendered. This was discussed here many years ago but it's probably worth reiterating: the roof on the 50' SINGLE door P2K 50' boxcar is correct (and very nicely done), the ones on the two 50' DOUBLE door cars (with or without end door) are not.

Tom Madden

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Re: P2K 50' roofs redux

Armand Premo
 

Tom,How many of them had Viking roofs?Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: pullmanboss
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] P2K 50' roofs redux



I had an off-list question asking if the roofs on all the Proto 2000 50' cars were poorly rendered. This was discussed here many years ago but it's probably worth reiterating: the roof on the 50' SINGLE door P2K 50' boxcar is correct (and very nicely done), the ones on the two 50' DOUBLE door cars (with or without end door) are not.

Tom Madden






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Re: Charlie Duckworth's freight cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Clark and Eileen wrote:

I read where Charlie Duckworth will ask a question about a freight
car on this list once in awhile.
I had to opportunity to operate on Charlie's layout last Friday.
Charlie has achieved an excellent blend of prototype track
arrangements, buildings, and scenery. But it's the resin freight
cars at add the icing on the cake.
Well done Charlie!
Yes, Charlie has always maintained a low profile, perhaps because
he's busy building models instead of yakking on the list, but one can
tell from the questions he asks that he is a serious and accomplished
freight car modeler. I envy you the opportunity to operate on his
layout.


Richard Hendrickson


P2K 50' roofs redux

pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
 

I had an off-list question asking if the roofs on all the Proto 2000 50' cars were poorly rendered. This was discussed here many years ago but it's probably worth reiterating: the roof on the 50' SINGLE door P2K 50' boxcar is correct (and very nicely done), the ones on the two 50' DOUBLE door cars (with or without end door) are not.

Tom Madden


Charlie Duckworth's freight cars

Clark Propst
 

I read where Charlie Duckworth will ask a question about a freight car on this list once in awhile.
I had to opportunity to operate on Charlie's layout last Friday. Charlie has achieved an excellent blend of prototype track arrangements, buildings, and scenery. But it's the resin freight cars at add the icing on the cake.
Well done Charlie!
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


ERDX reefers

Armand Premo
 

Looking for information on ERDX and Wilson reefers.Any help beyond the ORER will be appreciated.Armand Premo


Re: IGA truck

proto48er
 

Guys -

The fellow who lived behind us was the owner of the local area Piggly Wiggly franchises (San Antonio, Texas area). They closed in the early 1960's. Just wanted to clarify that. It bought him a lot of "O" scale models, including steam era freight cars!

A.T. Kott

94081 - 94100 of 194714