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Re: DAS box Car

Tim O'Connor
 

Rich, have you found a single photo of a freight car marked DSA?
Web sites are not that useful if they simply regurgitate what is
found in the ORER -- photos are the best reference.

As Dennis pointed out, the Canadian Pacific is wrapped up in the
history of Soo Line and DSS&A (and Jim Hill of the GN too, if you
dig into the history). Corporate identity is one thing not always
directly reflected on the rolling stock.

Tim O'Connor

Duluth South Shore & Atlantic reporting marks changed over time. According to the NRHS web site

DS&A July 1923
DSS&A April 1938
DSA Jan 1952 - April 1961 and Oct 1966 Assigned to SOO Line between 1961 and 1966 and post 1966

Rich Orr


Re: DSS&A

Tim O'Connor
 

Although DSA was registered as a reporting mark for the DSS&A, the
only reporting mark I've ever seen used for the railroad is DSS&A,
which is also listed in the 1940 and later ORER's. (I don't have an
earlier ORER.)

In the 1950 ORER it says:

FREIGHT EQUIPMENT - Reporting Marks - DSA
The Freight Cars of this Company are marked "D., S. S. & A." ...

There's a 1924 builder photo of DSS&A 13398, which was a USRA steel
flat car (like the Red Caboose model). So the use of the DSS&A marks
goes back at least that far.

Tim O'Connor


Re: DAS box Car

SUVCWORR@...
 

Jerry,

This is one of those depends times.

Duluth South Shore & Atlantic reporting marks changed over time. According to the NRHS web site

DS&A July 1923
DSS&A April 1938
DSA Jan 1952 - April 1961 and Oct 1966 Assigned to SOO Line between 1961 and 1966 and post 1966

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: jerryglow <jerryglow@comcast.net>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:46 am
Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Re: DAS box Car


This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them
including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A.
I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition
era.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's
reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment
Registers that I have going back 70 years.

Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark "DAS"
for any railroad or private operator.

Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...








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Re: ex-AT&SF box car pictures

randy arnold
 

Tim the car is in Morrisville. I first noticed it 8-9 years ago, the last
time I went to look at it the truck on the A end had been removed and that
end was sitting on a large concrete block.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>wrote:

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This appears to be the Fe-13 in St Johnsbury VT, no? I took a bunch of
shots of the car around 20 years ago when the lettering was much more
legible. I don't know if the car ever belonged to LV (I never saw any
evidence of that) but it's definitely ex-DT&I, before it passed on to
StJ&LC ownership.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/91398491/pic/808224976/view

Tim O'Connor




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Re: DAS box Car

Steve Haas
 

<<I looked in my 4-51 ORER. It does say that the Duluth, South Shore &
Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA" However, the next line says: "The
freight cars of this company are marked DSS&A." The 7-47 and 1-59 ORERs say
the same thing.>>


As do the 10-49 and 4-57 ORERs, along with my memories of going down the
freight yard in Houghton to watch trains in the early - mid 60's.

Use those DSS&A reporting marks on your models without worry.


Steve Haas
Snoqualmie, WA


Re: DAS box Car

SUVCWORR@...
 

Its Duluth South Shore and Atlantic and the reporting marks as DSA see ORER and NRHS web site

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob McCarthy <thesupplycar@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:50 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: DAS box Car


Howdy,

DAS is the DULUTH, ATLANTIC and SOUTH SHORE RR.

Bob McCarthy

Modeling the Mighty Central of Georgia in Scale S


--- On Fri, 7/8/11, peter silcox <railroadpete@comcast.net> wrote:

From: peter silcox <railroadpete@comcast.net>
Subject: DAS box Car
To: "Bob McCarthy" <thesupplycar@yahoo.com>, gsc3@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:46 PM



















The Eqpt. Register of 1950 said the “DSA” was
the Duluth ,
South Shore & Atlantic RR. Pete Silcox







Any thoughts on what the car in question is?



Bob



--- On Wed, 7/6/11, George <gsc3@yahoo.com> wrote:



From: George <gsc3@yahoo.com>

Subject: [STMFC] Re: single sheathed box car

To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 1:36 AM





No, but until somebody is sure,
Durham and Southern seems
a possiblity.



George Courtney



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim
O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Anyone recognize the provenance of this box car? Do you know
what "DAS" stands for?






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Re: USNX 1001-1002

Ed Hawkins
 

On Jul 10, 2011, at 5:24 AM, rdietrichson wrote:

Good morning all,
I have several black and white photos of the subject cars, but cannot
tell the color of the cars. Were these cars painted a light Navy Gray
or were they silver?
Any help would be appreciated.
Rick Dietrichson
Wilmington, NC
Rick,
From the ACF bill of materials I have compiled paint specs for ACF lot
2029, USN T102, 10,000-gallon ICC 103, built 5-40. The top and heads of
the tank were aluminum. The bottom of the tank, underframe, trucks,
lettering over aluminum were black. Lettering over black was white.
Another order for USN T103, lot 2143, was identical to lot 2029.
Incidentally, the running boards on these cars were Alan Wood Super
Diamond Plate.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: DAS box Car

Larry Kline
 

This thread also gave me a bit of a concern because I have an O scale Champ decal set I plan to use because a DSS&A box car appears in the Bill Pice WM video. The reporting marks in the Champ set are DSS&A, not DSA.

I looked in my 4-51 ORER. It does say that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA" However, the next line says: "The freight cars of this company are marked DSS&A." The 7-47 and 1-59 ORERs say the same thing.

The 1-43 ORER says "The freight cars of this company are marked DSA or DSS&A."

The 6-29 and 4-38 ORERs give the reporting marks as DSS&A.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

Jerry Glow said:
This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years.

Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark "DAS" for any railroad or private operator.

Thomas M. Olsen


Re: DAS box Car

Bob McCarthy
 

Jerry,

    Yes it did change, however I do not know the date of change.

Bob

--- On Sun, 7/10/11, jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net> wrote:

From: jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net>
Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Re: DAS box Car
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 11:45 AM







 









This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era.



Jerry Glow



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years.
Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark "DAS" for any railroad or private operator.
Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...
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Re: DAS box Car

Rich C
 

As answered about a week ago, DAS= Dwight A. Smith. They are a temp rep mark in transporting museum bound equipment. Jerry, your DSS&A sets are fine, those rep marks are still registered under Soo Line and of course CP Rail. They did change them to DSA when the ACI era came around as a Uniform Alphabetic Code.
 
Rich Christie

--- On Sun, 7/10/11, jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net> wrote:


From: jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net>
Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Re: DAS box Car
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 6:45 AM


 



This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years.

Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark "DAS" for any railroad or private operator.

Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...




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Re: DAS box Car

Joel Holmes <lehighvalley@...>
 

Hi All,

Going back 89 years, my 1922 Equipment Register confirms what Tom has
said. It shows that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks
are: DS&A.

Joel Holmes from way back in the hills of Tennessee

Some see the light at the end of the tunnel as being the end. What they
do not know is that light is a train. However, due to economic
conditions, the light at the end of the tunnel has be shut off because
that train has been canceled.

Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore &
Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official
Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years.

Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark
"DAS" for any railroad or private operator.

Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu







Re: DAS box Car

jerryglow2
 

This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years.

Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark "DAS" for any railroad or private operator.

Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...






USNX 1001-1002

rdietrichson
 

Good morning all,
I have several black and white photos of the subject cars, but cannot tell the color of the cars. Were these cars painted a light Navy Gray or were they silver?
Any help would be appreciated.
Rick Dietrichson
Wilmington, NC


Re: DAS box Car

tmolsen@...
 

Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years.

Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark "DAS" for any railroad or private operator.

Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu


Phillips tank car lettering

tnbirke@sbcglobal.net <tnbirke@...>
 

Currently on eBay there are models of PSPX 9211 and 9213 (series 9001-9300 blt 1930) lettered in white. Until earlier today there was a PSPX 9311 (series 9301-9325 blt 1936) that is lettered in yellow. Is the lettering color correct on both or either of these series? Maybe the cars in the 9301-9325 series were built by Union Tank Car which started using yellow stenciling before these cars were built and still do.
Tom Birkett
Bartlesville, OK


Re: DAS box Car

Randy Williamson
 

Bob,

It was Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic DSS&A.

At 06:03 PM 7/9/2011, you wrote:


Howdy,

   DAS is the DULUTH, ATLANTIC and SOUTH SHORE RR.

Bob McCarthy

Modeling the Mighty Central of Georgia in Scale S

--- On Fri, 7/8/11, peter silcox
<<mailto:railroadpete%40comcast.net>railroadpete@comcast.net> wrote:

From: peter silcox
<<mailto:railroadpete%40comcast.net>railroadpete@comcast.net>
Subject: DAS box Car
To: "Bob McCarthy"
<<mailto:thesupplycar%40yahoo.com>thesupplycar@yahoo.com>,
<mailto:gsc3%40yahoo.com>gsc3@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:46 PM

The Eqpt. Register of 1950 said the “DSA� was
the Duluth ,
South Shore & Atlantic RR.  Pete Silcox

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Any thoughts on what the car in question is?

Bob

--- On Wed, 7/6/11, George <<mailto:gsc3%40yahoo.com>gsc3@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: George <<mailto:gsc3%40yahoo.com>gsc3@yahoo.com>

Subject: [STMFC] Re: single sheathed box car

To: <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>STMFC@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 1:36 AM

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No, but until somebody is sure,
Durham and Southern seems
a possiblity.

George Courtney

--- In <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim
O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Anyone recognize the provenance of this box car? Do you know
what "DAS" stands for?
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Re: DAS box Car

Bob McCarthy
 

Howdy,

    DAS is the DULUTH, ATLANTIC and SOUTH SHORE RR.

Bob McCarthy

Modeling the Mighty Central of Georgia in Scale S

--- On Fri, 7/8/11, peter silcox <railroadpete@comcast.net> wrote:

From: peter silcox <railroadpete@comcast.net>
Subject: DAS box Car
To: "Bob McCarthy" <thesupplycar@yahoo.com>, gsc3@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:46 PM



















The Eqpt. Register of 1950 said the “DSA” was
the Duluth ,
South Shore & Atlantic RR.   Pete Silcox

 

 

 

Any thoughts on what the car in question is?



Bob



--- On Wed, 7/6/11, George <gsc3@yahoo.com> wrote:



From: George <gsc3@yahoo.com>

Subject: [STMFC] Re: single sheathed box car

To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 1:36 AM

 



No, but until somebody is sure,
Durham and Southern seems
a possiblity.



George Courtney



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim
O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Anyone recognize the provenance of this box car? Do you know
what "DAS" stands for?






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Re: UP composite 40' gon

Matt S.
 

I mis-spoke...this is the Red Caboose car, not the Intermountain car...
Matt Sugerman

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Clark and Eileen" <cepropst@...> wrote:

I haven't, but the sides are separate in the kit.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa
----- Original Message -----
From: Camas74
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 4:17 AM
Subject: [STMFC] UP composite 40' gon



Has anyone modified one of the Intermountain composite gons to the Union Pacific post 1951 rebuilt single sheathed steel sides? If so, what did you do to remove the wood sides?

Matt Sugerman,
Hot as Hades, TX





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Re: Working with Jerry Glow's decals

Jared Harper
 

A recent decal I acquired from Jerry Glow seemed to require more pin pricking and more Microsol than, say,Microscale decales, but it did settle down well eventually. I liked it because it didn't tear like the Archer rivet decals that I find very fragile
Jared Harper
Athens, GA

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Pierre" <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:

Gentlemen,
I'm having a bit of a struggle with the decals from Jerry Glow and I'm hoping that some of you have additional insight into dealing with these decals.
Jerry has been helpful in directing me to information site about working with his decals, but the solutions offered have not produced the desired results.
The issue appears to be that the ink used doesn't soften with setting solution, thus the decal won't conform to rivets in my case. I've used Microscale's product and Solvaset. In fact the Solvaset has caused a little of the ink to run.
It was suggested that applying hot water to the surface of the decal and pressing down with a tissue would help. And it did partially. But I'm still not pleased with the final results.
So I'm open to suggestions to get these decals to behave. The artwork is delightful and I would like to use more of his product line if I can resolve this problem.
Thanks,
Pierre Oliver


Re: UP composite 40' gon

up4479
 

The Intermountain gondolas are a USRA design. UP didn't have any. The best way to go about this is to start with a Detail Associates composite side gondola kit which has the correct frame pattern and separate sides.
Steve Solombrino

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Camas74" <camas74@...> wrote:

Has anyone modified one of the Intermountain composite gons to the Union Pacific post 1951 rebuilt single sheathed steel sides? If so, what did you do to remove the wood sides?

Matt Sugerman,
Hot as Hades, TX

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