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Re: DAS box Car
Rich, have you found a single photo of a freight car marked DSA?
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Web sites are not that useful if they simply regurgitate what is found in the ORER -- photos are the best reference. As Dennis pointed out, the Canadian Pacific is wrapped up in the history of Soo Line and DSS&A (and Jim Hill of the GN too, if you dig into the history). Corporate identity is one thing not always directly reflected on the rolling stock. Tim O'Connor
Duluth South Shore & Atlantic reporting marks changed over time. According to the NRHS web site
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Re: DSS&A
Although DSA was registered as a reporting mark for the DSS&A, the
only reporting mark I've ever seen used for the railroad is DSS&A, which is also listed in the 1940 and later ORER's. (I don't have an earlier ORER.) In the 1950 ORER it says: FREIGHT EQUIPMENT - Reporting Marks - DSA The Freight Cars of this Company are marked "D., S. S. & A." ... There's a 1924 builder photo of DSS&A 13398, which was a USRA steel flat car (like the Red Caboose model). So the use of the DSS&A marks goes back at least that far. Tim O'Connor
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Re: DAS box Car
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Jerry,
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This is one of those depends times. Duluth South Shore & Atlantic reporting marks changed over time. According to the NRHS web site DS&A July 1923 DSS&A April 1938 DSA Jan 1952 - April 1961 and Oct 1966 Assigned to SOO Line between 1961 and 1966 and post 1966 Rich Orr
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From: jerryglow <jerryglow@comcast.net> To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Jul 10, 2011 6:46 am Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Re: DAS box Car This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era. Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote: reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years. for any railroad or private operator.
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Re: ex-AT&SF box car pictures
randy arnold
Tim the car is in Morrisville. I first noticed it 8-9 years ago, the last
time I went to look at it the truck on the A end had been removed and that end was sitting on a large concrete block. On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>wrote: ** -- Best Regards Randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: DAS box Car
Steve Haas
<<I looked in my 4-51 ORER. It does say that the Duluth, South Shore &
Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA" However, the next line says: "The freight cars of this company are marked DSS&A." The 7-47 and 1-59 ORERs say the same thing.>> As do the 10-49 and 4-57 ORERs, along with my memories of going down the freight yard in Houghton to watch trains in the early - mid 60's. Use those DSS&A reporting marks on your models without worry. Steve Haas Snoqualmie, WA
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Re: DAS box Car
SUVCWORR@...
Its Duluth South Shore and Atlantic and the reporting marks as DSA see ORER and NRHS web site
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Rich Orr
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From: Bob McCarthy <thesupplycar@yahoo.com> To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2011 7:50 pm Subject: [STMFC] Re: DAS box Car Howdy, DAS is the DULUTH, ATLANTIC and SOUTH SHORE RR. Bob McCarthy Modeling the Mighty Central of Georgia in Scale S --- On Fri, 7/8/11, peter silcox <railroadpete@comcast.net> wrote: From: peter silcox <railroadpete@comcast.net> Subject: DAS box Car To: "Bob McCarthy" <thesupplycar@yahoo.com>, gsc3@yahoo.com Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:46 PM The Eqpt. Register of 1950 said the “DSA” was the Duluth , South Shore & Atlantic RR. Pete Silcox Any thoughts on what the car in question is? Bob --- On Wed, 7/6/11, George <gsc3@yahoo.com> wrote: From: George <gsc3@yahoo.com> Subject: [STMFC] Re: single sheathed box car To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 1:36 AM No, but until somebody is sure, Durham and Southern seems a possiblity. George Courtney --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote: Anyone recognize the provenance of this box car? Do you know what "DAS" stands for? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: USNX 1001-1002
Ed Hawkins
On Jul 10, 2011, at 5:24 AM, rdietrichson wrote:
Good morning all,Rick, From the ACF bill of materials I have compiled paint specs for ACF lot 2029, USN T102, 10,000-gallon ICC 103, built 5-40. The top and heads of the tank were aluminum. The bottom of the tank, underframe, trucks, lettering over aluminum were black. Lettering over black was white. Another order for USN T103, lot 2143, was identical to lot 2029. Incidentally, the running boards on these cars were Alan Wood Super Diamond Plate. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: DAS box Car
Larry Kline
This thread also gave me a bit of a concern because I have an O scale Champ decal set I plan to use because a DSS&A box car appears in the Bill Pice WM video. The reporting marks in the Champ set are DSS&A, not DSA.
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I looked in my 4-51 ORER. It does say that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA" However, the next line says: "The freight cars of this company are marked DSS&A." The 7-47 and 1-59 ORERs say the same thing. The 1-43 ORER says "The freight cars of this company are marked DSA or DSS&A." The 6-29 and 4-38 ORERs give the reporting marks as DSS&A. Larry Kline Pittsburgh, PA Jerry Glow said: This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era. Jerry Glow
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Re: DAS box Car
Bob McCarthy
Jerry,
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Yes it did change, however I do not know the date of change. Bob
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net> wrote:
From: jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net> Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Re: DAS box Car To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 11:45 AM This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era. Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote: Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years. Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark "DAS" for any railroad or private operator. Thomas M. Olsen 7 Boundary Road, West Branch Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479 302) 738-4292 tmolsen@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: DAS box Car
Rich C
As answered about a week ago, DAS= Dwight A. Smith. They are a temp rep mark in transporting museum bound equipment. Jerry, your DSS&A sets are fine, those rep marks are still registered under Soo Line and of course CP Rail. They did change them to DSA when the ACI era came around as a Uniform Alphabetic Code.
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Rich Christie
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net> wrote:
From: jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net> Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Re: DAS box Car To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 6:45 AM This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era. Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:
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Re: DAS box Car
Joel Holmes <lehighvalley@...>
Hi All,
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Going back 89 years, my 1922 Equipment Register confirms what Tom has said. It shows that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are: DS&A. Joel Holmes from way back in the hills of Tennessee Some see the light at the end of the tunnel as being the end. What they do not know is that light is a train. However, due to economic conditions, the light at the end of the tunnel has be shut off because that train has been canceled.
Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore &
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Re: DAS box Car
jerryglow2
This thread gave me a bit of a concern as I do a couple decal sets for them including a riveted side PS-1. The pictures I worked from and my sets use DSS&A. I wonder if it has changed over the years as my area of interest was transition era.
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Jerry Glow
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USNX 1001-1002
rdietrichson
Good morning all,
I have several black and white photos of the subject cars, but cannot tell the color of the cars. Were these cars painted a light Navy Gray or were they silver? Any help would be appreciated. Rick Dietrichson Wilmington, NC
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Re: DAS box Car
tmolsen@...
Pete Silcox is correct is stating that the Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic's reporting marks are "DSA". This is confirmed by the Official Railroad Equipment Registers that I have going back 70 years.
Examination of the registers that I have do not list a reporting mark "DAS" for any railroad or private operator. Thomas M. Olsen 7 Boundary Road, West Branch Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479 302) 738-4292 tmolsen@udel.edu
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Phillips tank car lettering
tnbirke@sbcglobal.net <tnbirke@...>
Currently on eBay there are models of PSPX 9211 and 9213 (series 9001-9300 blt 1930) lettered in white. Until earlier today there was a PSPX 9311 (series 9301-9325 blt 1936) that is lettered in yellow. Is the lettering color correct on both or either of these series? Maybe the cars in the 9301-9325 series were built by Union Tank Car which started using yellow stenciling before these cars were built and still do.
Tom Birkett Bartlesville, OK
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Re: DAS box Car
Randy Williamson
Bob,
It was Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic DSS&A. At 06:03 PM 7/9/2011, you wrote: Dayna & Randy Williamson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: DAS box Car
Bob McCarthy
Howdy,
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DAS is the DULUTH, ATLANTIC and SOUTH SHORE RR. Bob McCarthy Modeling the Mighty Central of Georgia in Scale S
--- On Fri, 7/8/11, peter silcox <railroadpete@comcast.net> wrote:
From: peter silcox <railroadpete@comcast.net> Subject: DAS box Car To: "Bob McCarthy" <thesupplycar@yahoo.com>, gsc3@yahoo.com Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:46 PM The Eqpt. Register of 1950 said the “DSA” was the Duluth , South Shore & Atlantic RR. Pete Silcox Any thoughts on what the car in question is? Bob --- On Wed, 7/6/11, George <gsc3@yahoo.com> wrote: From: George <gsc3@yahoo.com> Subject: [STMFC] Re: single sheathed box car To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 1:36 AM No, but until somebody is sure, Durham and Southern seems a possiblity. George Courtney --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote: Anyone recognize the provenance of this box car? Do you know what "DAS" stands for? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: UP composite 40' gon
Matt S.
I mis-spoke...this is the Red Caboose car, not the Intermountain car...
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Matt Sugerman
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Clark and Eileen" <cepropst@...> wrote:
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Re: Working with Jerry Glow's decals
Jared Harper
A recent decal I acquired from Jerry Glow seemed to require more pin pricking and more Microsol than, say,Microscale decales, but it did settle down well eventually. I liked it because it didn't tear like the Archer rivet decals that I find very fragile
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Jared Harper Athens, GA
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Re: UP composite 40' gon
up4479
The Intermountain gondolas are a USRA design. UP didn't have any. The best way to go about this is to start with a Detail Associates composite side gondola kit which has the correct frame pattern and separate sides.
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Steve Solombrino
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Camas74" <camas74@...> wrote:
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