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WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Thanks Gerald:

I was finally able to access your website. Actually I was looking for some decals for a USRA gondola
that I picked up At the NMRA for a friend. He does not have a particular railroad in mind. He just wants
an accurate set for the 1950's time frame. I did not find any on your list. Do you have any ideas?

Thanks:

Bill


Re: CONX 19 question

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "tnbirke@..." <tnbirke@...> wrote:

I found this photo of CONX 19 (incorrectly labeled as a Texaco car) in the Denvr Public Library collection:

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22&CISOPTR=19898&CISOBOX=1&REC=6

Since it has a wooden underframe, it was an ARA Class I car, if I read the specifications correctly. Has anyone else found this image and is perhaps able to read the stencilling on the right side?

Tom Birkett
Bartlesville, OK
That appears to be a narrow gauge car. First off, the gauge of the wheels is only
about one half the tank diameter. Secondly, the coupler shank is notched through the end sill, a feature that was common on the Colorado NG, but rare in standard gauge car construction.

Dennis


Re: CONX 19 question

pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
 

Looks like narrow gauge. The C&S typically carried a Conoco tank on its Clear Creek (Georgetown Loop) line, so it wouldn't be surprising to see one on its South Platte (Kenosha Pass) line. I think they were empty and served as "rolling billboard" advertisements for Conoco.

Tom Madden

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "tnbirke@..." <tnbirke@...> wrote:

I found this photo of CONX 19 (incorrectly labeled as a Texaco car) in the Denvr Public Library collection:

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22&CISOPTR=19898&CISOBOX=1&REC=6

Since it has a wooden underframe, it was an ARA Class I car, if I read the specifications correctly. Has anyone else found this image and is perhaps able to read the stencilling on the right side?

Tom Birkett
Bartlesville, OK


Re: CONX 19 question

coronadoscalemodels
 

Yes, I have seen this image before but I hate to inform you that it is narrow gauge, on the C&S three foot gauge out of Denver.

Stan Schwedler
Coronado Scale Models

I found this photo of CONX 19 (incorrectly labeled as a Texaco car) in the Denvr Public Library collection:

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22&CISOPTR=19898&CISOBOX=1&REC=6

Since it has a wooden underframe, it was an ARA Class I car, if I read the specifications correctly. Has anyone else found this image and is perhaps able to read the stencilling on the right side?

Tom Birkett
Bartlesville, OK


CONX 19 question

Thomas Birkett
 

I found this photo of CONX 19 (incorrectly labeled as a Texaco car) in the Denvr Public Library collection:

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22&CISOPTR=19898&CISOBOX=1&REC=6

Since it has a wooden underframe, it was an ARA Class I car, if I read the specifications correctly. Has anyone else found this image and is perhaps able to read the stencilling on the right side?

Tom Birkett
Bartlesville, OK


Climax radial roof

Richard Townsend
 

Does anyone make a good representation of the Climax radial roof?


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: Texaco tank cars

Marcelo Lordeiro <mrcustom@...>
 

Any idea where we can find drawings of the 3-dome tank ?

Marcelo Lordeiro


From: S hed
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:24 AM
To: stmfc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Texaco tank cars




I stumbled across these two photos of Texaco tank cars and I thought that I would pass it along to the group. One is a black 3 dome tank car taken in 1936 at Amarillo and the other one is a silver single dome tank car also taken in 1936 at Amarillo.

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22&CISOPTR=67550&CISOBOX=1&REC=8
http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22&CISOPTR=67558&CISOBOX=1&REC=13

- Steve H, Silver Lake, WA


Re: Sunshine models

Bill Welch
 

These will be single-sheathed and at least one double-sheathed from Sunshine.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@...> wrote:

Ran into Frank Hodina today, who does a number of masters for Sunshine
Models. Heard him say he is working on another master. Not sure what for
sure, but heard something about 40' auto ??? Doesn't matter what, but this
would certainly indicate that good quality steam era freight cars are yet to
come.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org





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Re: Texaco tank cars

Larry Sexton
 

Steve,



A few years ago someone shared with this list that they had stumbled across
or found photos in the Denver Library collections of pre-fabricated ship
sections being shipped via rail as part of the WWII effort. Somehow I've
lost that email. In the event you happen to also find similar WWII related
photos, I'd appreciate a heads up. Thanks much for sharing your finds.



If the individual who provided feedback on finding photos in the Denver
Library collections of pre-fabricated ship sections being shipped via rail
is still participating in the STMFC, I'd appreciate hearing from you on the
subject as well. Thanks much.



Larry Sexton



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of S
hed
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 12:25 AM
To: stmfc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Texaco tank cars






I stumbled across these two photos of Texaco tank cars and I thought that I
would pass it along to the group. One is a black 3 dome tank car taken in
1936 at Amarillo and the other one is a silver single dome tank car also
taken in 1936 at Amarillo.

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22
<http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll2
2&CISOPTR=67550&CISOBOX=1&REC=8> &CISOPTR=67550&CISOBOX=1&REC=8
http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22
<http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll2
2&CISOPTR=67558&CISOBOX=1&REC=13> &CISOPTR=67558&CISOBOX=1&REC=13

- Steve H, Silver Lake, WA


Texaco tank cars

S hed <shed999@...>
 

I stumbled across these two photos of Texaco tank cars and I thought that I would pass it along to the group. One is a black 3 dome tank car taken in 1936 at Amarillo and the other one is a silver single dome tank car also taken in 1936 at Amarillo.

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22&CISOPTR=67550&CISOBOX=1&REC=8
http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p15330coll22&CISOPTR=67558&CISOBOX=1&REC=13

- Steve H, Silver Lake, WA


Re: Sunshine models

Douglas Harding
 

Ran into Frank Hodina today, who does a number of masters for Sunshine
Models. Heard him say he is working on another master. Not sure what for
sure, but heard something about 40' auto ??? Doesn't matter what, but this
would certainly indicate that good quality steam era freight cars are yet to
come.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: Sunshine models

Jack Burgess
 

Nate wrote:

<I just received my order from Sunshine last week that I placed back on
<18 December. I don't think Sunshine is slowing down or retiring because
they
<included a flyer for a ATSF caboose and ATSF 50' boxcar.

I hope Martin isn't slowing down! I finished my layout
(complete...done...nothing else to add) about 3 weeks ago and am looking
forward to digging into my stash of about 60 resin kits (mostly Sunshine but
also some Westerfield's and a few Funaro & Camerlengo kits). That doesn't
include 40 more Westerfield resin kits for the 22' ex-GN hopper cars owned
by the YV. (Of course, I'll die once those are done so...no hurry in
completing them. <g>)

If I complete a kit every two weeks (very easy), that is 26 per year which
means I could be out of projects in less than 4 years. Figuring that it
takes 6 months to get an order filled, I need to order at least two dozen
kits per year starting in a couple of years to have enough cars on hand
before I get Alzheimer's and forget what I am trying to accomplish.

The problem is that I model a western prototype which didn't handle any
gondola cars or hopper cars or any foreign flat cars or stock cars and
handled only a few tank cars(mostly UTLX Van Dykes). Refrigerator cars were
limited to only PFE and ATSF cars. It was also a railroad which didn't see
any unusual eastern prototypes or interesting Mather cars. In addition, the
kits need to represent cars in service in 1939....ugh! I might need to order
a bunch more SP 1930s box cars!

Jack Burgess
Newark, CA


Re: Sunshine models

Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

When we were putting out new kits we controlled our backlog by issuing new kits only to keep a certain amount of money coming in while maintaining prompt service. - Al Westerfield

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hayes" <jimhayes97225@gmail.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Sunshine models


Good explanation Tom.

Jim


On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:17 AM, <tmolsen@udel.edu> wrote:

**


Due to the demand for kits, Sunshine has been 6 months behind for well over
five years to my knowledge. I order five kits a month and at present, the
next order that I expect to arrive will be the order that I placed in March
of this year. So, please be patient as Tricia has a schedule and no one's
check is cashed until Martin begins to cast your order. When my cancelled
check shows up on my bank statement, I can always figure that the next order
will be in my mailbox within five to six weeks. Just like clockwork! No one
has ever lost anything with Sunshine!

I spoke with Martin at the Timonium trainshow in February and asked him how
the business was doing considering the state of the economy. He said that
the economy has not affected the amount of orders which they receive each
month.

There was talk in Naperville several years ago that when Tricia turned 65
that they would retire, but that was just talk and speculation at that time.
Martin is 74 and many will remember he had a bad illness a year ago that
would have knocked down an elephant. He was able to recover from it and we
are lucky that he decided to continue withe business. I am sure that when
the time comes, they will advise us of their intentions.

I would think that the slowing down of new releases is really because of
their workload. By releasing fewer kits each season, it gives them time to
catch up and shorten the time frame of how far behind they are.

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu








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Re: LCL c. 1952 (UNCLASSIFIED)

Jim Mischke
 

A Chicago to Hammond parcel would go on the interurban South Shore. As late as the 1930's, there were whole cars and trains on South Shore devoted to this time driven traffic.

Before United Parcel Service, shopping malls, and big-box stores, railroads were very much a part of the retail distribution network. Factiries and Mom-and-Pop stores depended on it. There was plenty of express and LCL business for each railroad in their service lane (a modern term). Most retail shipments are repeat business, as is most railroad carload freight, too. The shippers knew who had the best service and used them in preference to others. Railroad traffic looks random at a distance, but is not that way at all.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Dennis

I agree with this, but it must have been something of a nightmare for
the railroads owing to regulatory hurdles -- imagine an LCL station in
Chicago ILLINOIS with a package for Hammond INDIANA. Just a few miles
away, but across a state border -- so now you have to deal with two
independent state regulatory agencies, as well as the ICC. Not fun.

----------------------

These local car were also the first to be discontinued, with the railroads
contracting with local truckers to pick up freight at the larger central
freight houses and handle the final delivery on rubber tires. This started
before WWII and by the fifties most local LCL cars were a thing of the past.
Dennis


FS New HO product by Mount Vernon Shops

John S. Frantz
 

Mount Vernon Shops is happy to announce the following HO product:

 1. Decals for Carbon black Covered Hopper in their As-Built 1933-1942 schemes. This set has enough data for doing 4 hoppers in 5 different schemes. The compnies included are: Cabot Spheron, JM Huber Company, United Carbon Company, and the ACF SHPX lease fleet reporting marks. This set was made possible because of information provided by Richard Hendrickson and Ed Hawkins. For more information regarding this set, go here:
http://www.mountvernonshops.com/CB.html


 To check out everything that’s
been going on, plus any previous products, you can go here:http://www.mountvernonshops.com/

For any questions regarding these
or any of my other projects, please contact me through my website (OFFLIST). However, I would encourage constructive
discussion of any of my projects on this list. It’s only through criticism that
I can make improvements that are good for everybody in the modeling community.


 


Thanks and Happy Modeling!


 


John Frantz
Owner,


Mount Vernon
Shops


York,
PA


Specializing in Products for the Prototype Modeler!


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more y'all roads

jerryglow2
 

I seem to go on "kicks" lately doing similar or related sets. This week,
it's more y'all roads some new and some not previously listed. See
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/SE_roads.jpg common
illustration for 3 separate but related roads
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/SE_roads.jpg C&WC gondola
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/C&WC_rebuild.jpg C&WC USRA
rebuild
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/TAG.jpg TA&G 40' and 50' cars

All are available in any scale and as usual, please keep inquiries OFF LIST
--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/


Re: Sunshine models

Jim Hayes
 

Good explanation Tom.

Jim


On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:17 AM, <tmolsen@udel.edu> wrote:

**


Due to the demand for kits, Sunshine has been 6 months behind for well over
five years to my knowledge. I order five kits a month and at present, the
next order that I expect to arrive will be the order that I placed in March
of this year. So, please be patient as Tricia has a schedule and no one's
check is cashed until Martin begins to cast your order. When my cancelled
check shows up on my bank statement, I can always figure that the next order
will be in my mailbox within five to six weeks. Just like clockwork! No one
has ever lost anything with Sunshine!

I spoke with Martin at the Timonium trainshow in February and asked him how
the business was doing considering the state of the economy. He said that
the economy has not affected the amount of orders which they receive each
month.

There was talk in Naperville several years ago that when Tricia turned 65
that they would retire, but that was just talk and speculation at that time.
Martin is 74 and many will remember he had a bad illness a year ago that
would have knocked down an elephant. He was able to recover from it and we
are lucky that he decided to continue withe business. I am sure that when
the time comes, they will advise us of their intentions.

I would think that the slowing down of new releases is really because of
their workload. By releasing fewer kits each season, it gives them time to
catch up and shorten the time frame of how far behind they are.

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu


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Re: Ghost Images on Freight Car Sides

john.allyn@...
 

Regular strength denatured ethyl (not methyl) alcohol always seemed to do the trick with Athearn cars.  Haven't tried it with any other maker.

John B. Allyn

----- Original Message -----
From: sartherdj@aol.com
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:20:48 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Ghost Images on Freight Car Sides

 





Gentlemen, Thanks to everyone for their replies and suggestions about removing "ghost images" left after stripping factory lettering and heralds from freight cars. I have another batch of cars arriving soon that I will experiment on further. I like the idea of using some type of air eraser. I have seen this type of equipment used to etch brass car sides prior to painting. But using that equipment is for another discussion and another time I guess. Maybe I can see if one of my local modeling friends has an air eraser for me to experiment with.

Fenton, Yes I like the idea of Atlas releasing 40' undecorated kits with all the goodies that Branchline included. I for one would be willing to pay a few extra bucks to get a kit that duplicated the Branchline Blueprint undecorated car kits. But as of my last checking (just minutes prior to making this post) 40' undecs are not available. Real bummer.

Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ


Re: LCL c. 1952 (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

What Dennis said matches what the PRR also appeared to be doing by the late
fifties. Even though there were a number of cars listed in the ORER with
their LCL equipment intact, and in a separate group, those same cars seem to
have been released, mostly, to general service, as you see some of them in
photos off-line in places like Dallas and elsewhere. They are clearly not
on-line doing what they were segregated for. Other roads may have held onto
it longer as a formal service, and it would be interesting to know if it paid
for itself anywhere else.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
soolinehistory
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:30 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: LCL c. 1952 (UNCLASSIFIED)





--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "krowth3249"
<kenwroth@...> wrote:

The LCL discussion seems to be focused so far around deliveries to
railroad-owned facilities. When I was a kid (late 50's), I used to hang
around the family-owned wholesale grocery warehouse and one of my favorite
spots was the freight car unloading dock. I remember that we received partial
carloads of goods (the whole car being from the same shipper, e.g Campbells
soup) with just a cardboard separator. The portion of the car for our
business was unloaded and then the car was sent off to another, perhaps
competing warehouse in the region (Western Oregon). That said, our business
relied more and more on trucks for receiving goods, sometimes doing a
"back-haul" in our own distributing trucks from Portland.

Ken Roth
This discussion has broken out on several lists, so I can't be sure if this
was addressed on THIS list... but this isn't LCL. This is carload freight to
multiple consignees using the "stop-off" provision of the carload tariff. Why
is this important? Well, operationally, it doesn't look any different from
any other car load freight... The car arrives, is unloaded, then picked up
and moved to another industry. No one can really tell if it is loaded or
empty.

In reality, cars full of LCL delivered to the freight house are about the
same, if you consider the freight house is just another industry.

The only part of the LCL operation that is really interesting is the local
cars that have to stop at each station down the line, and I contend that any
towns that are large enough to get a full car spotted at the freight house
don't make use of the local car; freight for that location was all
consolidated into the dedicated car at some central freight house.

These local car were also the first to be discontinued, with the railroads
contracting with local truckers to pick up freight at the larger central
freight houses and handle the final delivery on rubber tires. This started
before WWII and by the fifties most local LCL cars were a thing of the past.

Dennis





Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


Re: Sunshine models

Bill Welch
 

I have just sent Martin some photos and drawings for two brand new kits and what could also result in new schemes for some previous kits, and from what he told me he was envisioning for October, there will be plenty of potential damage for modeling budgets, if we have such a thing.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Due to the demand for kits, Sunshine has been 6 months behind for well over five years to my knowledge. I order five kits a month and at present, the next order that I expect to arrive will be the order that I placed in March of this year. So, please be patient as Tricia has a schedule and no one's check is cashed until Martin begins to cast your order. When my cancelled check shows up on my bank statement, I can always figure that the next order will be in my mailbox within five to six weeks. Just like clockwork! No one has ever lost anything with Sunshine!

I spoke with Martin at the Timonium trainshow in February and asked him how the business was doing considering the state of the economy. He said that the economy has not affected the amount of orders which they receive each month.

There was talk in Naperville several years ago that when Tricia turned 65 that they would retire, but that was just talk and speculation at that time. Martin is 74 and many will remember he had a bad illness a year ago that would have knocked down an elephant. He was able to recover from it and we are lucky that he decided to continue withe business. I am sure that when the time comes, they will advise us of their intentions.

I would think that the slowing down of new releases is really because of their workload. By releasing fewer kits each season, it gives them time to catch up and shorten the time frame of how far behind they are.

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...



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