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Re: Tools

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

Tony wrote:
<Thinking about this, I'd say a tool that's relatively new which
<greatly changed my modeling is the sprue cutter. This is just a great
<tool and I use it for all sorts of things beyond sprues.

I agree...I have three of them from PBL each with a different "capacity". I
use the finest one for styrene sprue cutting and the largest one for flush
cutting brass wire. I haven't figured out a job for the middle one...


Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Prototype Modeler issues on line

hacketet <hacketet@...>
 

Denny! I haven't heard from you in some time now.

At our last regional NMRA meet I gave a 2 hour workshop on scratchbuilding turnouts, basically the same workshop I attended 40 years ago when I was stationed at Hill AFB, Utah. I normally build the frog and guard rail assembly in 30 to 45 minutes. It's really very easy to do and I get much more reliable operation from my turnouts than ony commercial product. Four people signed up so I thought there would be plenty of time to show them how to arrange the various rail components. Boy was I wrong! None of them knew how to solder simple brass parts together! I spent most of my time showing them how to use a file, flux, soldering iron (I let them use mine as they all had those wimpy 15W electronic irons), and other basic tools. My conclusion is that a lot of today's modelers rely completely upon commercial products. I won't be giving that workshop again.

--- In STMFC@..., Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote:

It is so very, very easy to sneer, look down, and disparage the efforts of modelers of years, decades ago. However, their completed work was most often -always?- the result of the modeler's skill and craftsmanship making do with parts and materials then at hand, while too often at the present ,the fine completed models from Kadee, IM, etc. only represent the fine skills of the mold and pattern makers, with little or no input whatsoever by the modeler-end user.

IMHO, a lot of us (most of us?) may indeed be mere pikers compared to the achievements of so many of the great railroad modelers of the past, and it is healthy for us to be so humbled.

The fine resin kits to which I am addicted are not entirely immune from this viewpoint of minimal end point modeler e added value. Having said this, it is now back to the porch-bench to enjoyably (!!) work on two of Al's Milwaukee wonderful double sheathed boxcars, and a pair of ore cars. Some Sunshine kits are in the wings. All challenging, and all the results of extremely fine resin casting and pattern work).

Denny


Denny S. Anspach, MD
Okoboji, Iowa


Re: Tools

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Jack Burgess wrote:
As for tools, we now have access to better power tools such as lathes, milling machines, disc sanders, and precision drill presses as well as new tools such as laser cutters. While the Xacto knife hasn't changed much, there are much better pliers and cutters such as the Xuron line. Digital calipers have replaced vernier calipers.
Thinking about this, I'd say a tool that's relatively new which greatly changed my modeling is the sprue cutter. This is just a great tool and I use it for all sorts of things beyond sprues.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Tools (Was Prototype Modeler issues on line)

Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
 

"there are much better pliers and cutters"

Unless you inadvertently bought some imported from India or China!

Nelson

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Burgess
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Subject: [STMFC] Tools (Was Prototype Modeler issues on line)




True, a super glue is a material of sort but I think having an affordable
and easily obtainable super glue such as CA is one of the biggest advances
in the "modeling" aspect of the hobby over the past 30 years (prototype
research sources is also important but not a directly modeling). Younger
modelers are probably oblivious to the frustrations of a few decades ago of
just trying to glue a styrene detail part of a wood flat car sill.

As for tools, we now have access to better power tools such as lathes,
milling machines, disc sanders, and precision drill presses as well as new
tools such as laser cutters. While the Xacto knife hasn't changed much,
there are much better pliers and cutters such as the Xuron line. Digital
calipers have replaced vernier calipers.

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: NKP box car

Clark Propst
 

I already bought the model at the StL RPM.
Clark Propst

--- In STMFC@..., "Brian Carlson" <prrk41361@...> wrote:

Clark, I'll send you some scans when I ship your kit. Haven't received your
order yet.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga, NY


Tools (Was Prototype Modeler issues on line)

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

True, a super glue is a material of sort but I think having an affordable
and easily obtainable super glue such as CA is one of the biggest advances
in the "modeling" aspect of the hobby over the past 30 years (prototype
research sources is also important but not a directly modeling). Younger
modelers are probably oblivious to the frustrations of a few decades ago of
just trying to glue a styrene detail part of a wood flat car sill.

As for tools, we now have access to better power tools such as lathes,
milling machines, disc sanders, and precision drill presses as well as new
tools such as laser cutters. While the Xacto knife hasn't changed much,
there are much better pliers and cutters such as the Xuron line. Digital
calipers have replaced vernier calipers.


Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: NKP box car

al_brown03
 

Hi Clark,

I assume that's the same thing as "ARA cast steel" ... the photo in the article looks like the Proto 2000 model truck to my eye.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., cepropst@... wrote:

Thanks Al,

I noticed another NKP caption in the RMJ article listed Barber trucks.

Who makes "Cast-steel double truss."?

Clark Propst


Re: Fw: Nick Muff's Kansas City Southern Layout

Jeff Shultz <jeff@...>
 

On Thu, August 11, 2011 2:11 pm, tyesac@... wrote:

I know Nick Muff, sort of, anyway. Every time I try to subscribe to the
MRH, it doesn't work. I bring up the application page and see the blue bar
that says "subscribe." First, I fill out the required information about
name and email address and so on. Then I look for the blue bar that says
"subscribe," but it has disappeared. What am I doing wrong?

Tom
Tom,

The bar should be at the bottom of the page, under a math question captcha
(aka a "prove you're human" test).

In either case, you don't need to subscribe in order to download the
magazine, it's just a nice thing to do in order to be notified when new
issues come out.


--
Jeff Shultz
http://www.shultzinfosystems.com
Model Railroad Hobbyist Magazine - http://mrhmag.com


Re: NKP box car

Brian Carlson
 

Clark, I'll send you some scans when I ship your kit. Haven't received your
order yet.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga, NY



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Clark and Eileen
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:57 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [STMFC] NKP box car





I showed my historical society support by buying a Branchline box car from
the Nickel Plate HS. I looked at the list Ed Hawkins put on the Steam
Freights website finding these cars (7100 series) had Ajax hand brake, Apex
running boards, older Youngstown doors and 8 rung ladders.

What wasn't in the fine copulation was the type of truck these cars rode on.
Anyone know?

Thanks for any help : ))
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Prototype Modeler issues on line

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tom Madden wrote:
Engineering plastics, super glues, epoxies, silicone rubber, urethane resin, soldering tweezers, micromotors, smaller sizes of rail.....
Except for the soldering tweezers (a set of which I owned before 1990), all your examples, Tom, are MATERIALS, not TOOLS.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: NKP box car

Clark Propst
 

Thanks Al,

I noticed another NKP caption in the RMJ article listed Barber trucks.

Who makes "Cast-steel double truss."?

Clark Propst


Re: NKP box car

Clark Propst
 

LOL! Spell check got me : ))

Clark Propst

--- In STMFC@..., john.allyn@... wrote:



Hope that you meant "compilation"!


John B. Allyn
Nashville TN


Re: NKP box car

al_brown03
 

"Cast-steel double truss." MM 2/90 p 36, RMJ 11/99 p 26. They appear spring plankless (photo in RMJ reference).

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., "Clark and Eileen" <cepropst@...> wrote:

I showed my historical society support by buying a Branchline box car from the Nickel Plate HS. I looked at the list Ed Hawkins put on the Steam Freights website finding these cars (7100 series) had Ajax hand brake, Apex running boards, older Youngstown doors and 8 rung ladders.

What wasn't in the fine copulation was the type of truck these cars rode on. Anyone know?

Thanks for any help : ))
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Re: Prototype Modeler issues on line

pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
 

How about personal computers, powerful applications like
Photoshop, laser printers, scanners, etc.? Today we take for granted
an ability to digitally capture and manipulate information which was
literally unthinkable 25 or 30 years ago. Among other things, this
means much easier sharing of prototype information (and the consequent
awareness by more and more modelers of exactly what that prototype DID
look like), and many indirect results such as making your own decals.
Engineering plastics, super glues, epoxies, silicone rubber, urethane resin, soldering tweezers, micromotors, smaller sizes of rail.....

Tom Madden


Re: Fw: Nick Muff's Kansas City Southern Layout

tyesac@...
 

Tom

Completion of the subscription process may require that that site be able to store a "cookie" on your machine. If your Web preferences always blocks cookies, then when you return to the site, it's looking for a cookie as a form of a "receipt".

Tom Casey


I know Nick Muff, sort of, anyway. Every time I try to subscribe to the MRH, it doesn't work. I bring up the application page and see the blue bar that says "subscribe." First, I fill out the required information about name and email address and so on. Then I look for the blue bar that says "subscribe," but it has disappeared. What am I doing wrong?

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Baker <bakert@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 3:31 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Fw: Nick Muff's Kansas City Southern Layout




I know Nick Muff, sort of, anyway. Every time I try to subscribe to the MRH, it doesn't work. I bring up the application page and see the blue bar that says "subscribe." First, I fill out the required information about name and email address and so on. Then I look for the blue bar that says "subscribe," but it has disappeared. What am I doing wrong?

Tom
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From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of Al and Patricia Westerfield [westerfield@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:27 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Fw: Nick Muff's Kansas City Southern Layout

Eric Bronsky sent me this link - Al Westerfield

OMG, this guy is the ULTIMATE KCS fan! You must see his basement -- what this guy has done is unbelievable! Watch this video first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60rTxXcPjFg

A feature article about Nick's basement and layout appears in the August, 2011 issue of Model Railroad Hobbyist. What? Did I hear you correctly? You're going to run down to the hobby shop and buy a copy? Well, it ain't sold in stores! MRH is a 100% digital online magazine and the price is right -- FREE. Here's a direct link to the magazine article:

http://issuu.com/mr-hobbyist/docs/mrh11-08-aug2011-ol/47?viewMode=presentation&mode=embed

Print it out, if you want! Better still, if you subscribe to this magazine (subscriptions are also FREE), you can download and watch the entire 30-minute interview with Nick Muff in HD! The magazine's home page is http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/.

-- Eric



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Re: NKP box car

john.allyn@...
 

Hope that you meant "compilation"!


John B. Allyn
Nashville TN

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From: "Clark and Eileen" <cepropst@q.com>
To: "STMFC" <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:57:27 PM
Subject: [STMFC] NKP box car

 




I showed my historical society support by buying a Branchline box car from the Nickel Plate HS. I looked at the list Ed Hawkins put on the Steam Freights website finding these cars (7100 series) had Ajax hand brake, Apex running boards, older Youngstown doors and 8 rung ladders.

What wasn't in the fine copulation was the type of truck these cars rode on. Anyone know?

Thanks for any help : ))
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Prototype Modeler issues on line

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Aley, Jeff A wrote:
Denny,
I think we can certainly say that there are new materials available (many forms of styrene, adhesives, Archer rivets, many scratchbuilding supplies (grabs, fine injection-molded detail parts [including trucks!]) that enhance today's models.
What relevant TOOLS are available today that were not available to the previous generation of craftsmen?
How about personal computers, powerful applications like Photoshop, laser printers, scanners, etc.? Today we take for granted an ability to digitally capture and manipulate information which was literally unthinkable 25 or 30 years ago. Among other things, this means much easier sharing of prototype information (and the consequent awareness by more and more modelers of exactly what that prototype DID look like), and many indirect results such as making your own decals.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


NKP box car

Clark Propst
 

I showed my historical society support by buying a Branchline box car from the Nickel Plate HS. I looked at the list Ed Hawkins put on the Steam Freights website finding these cars (7100 series) had Ajax hand brake, Apex running boards, older Youngstown doors and 8 rung ladders.

What wasn't in the fine copulation was the type of truck these cars rode on. Anyone know?

Thanks for any help : ))
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Prototype Modeler issues on line

Aley, Jeff A
 

Denny,

I think we can certainly say that there are new materials available (many forms of styrene, adhesives, Archer rivets, many scratchbuilding supplies (grabs, fine injection-molded detail parts [including trucks!]) that enhance today's models.

What relevant TOOLS are available today that were not available to the previous generation of craftsmen?

Regards,

-Jeff


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Denny Anspach
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:39 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Prototype Modeler issues on line



It is so very, very easy to sneer, look down, and disparage the efforts of modelers of years, decades ago. However, their completed work was most often -always?- the result of the modeler's skill and craftsmanship making do with parts and materials then at hand, while too often at the present ,the fine completed models from Kadee, IM, etc. only represent the fine skills of the mold and pattern makers, with little or no input whatsoever by the modeler-end user.

IMHO, a lot of us (most of us?) may indeed be mere pikers compared to the achievements of so many of the great railroad modelers of the past, and it is healthy for us to be so humbled.

The fine resin kits to which I am addicted are not entirely immune from this viewpoint of minimal end point modeler e added value. Having said this, it is now back to the porch-bench to enjoyably (!!) work on two of Al's Milwaukee wonderful double sheathed boxcars, and a pair of ore cars. Some Sunshine kits are in the wings. All challenging, and all the results of extremely fine resin casting and pattern work).

Denny

Denny S. Anspach, MD
Okoboji, Iowa


Re: Fw: Nick Muff's Kansas City Southern Layout

Thomas Baker
 

I know Nick Muff, sort of, anyway. Every time I try to subscribe to the MRH, it doesn't work. I bring up the application page and see the blue bar that says "subscribe." First, I fill out the required information about name and email address and so on. Then I look for the blue bar that says "subscribe," but it has disappeared. What am I doing wrong?

Tom
________________________________________
From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of Al and Patricia Westerfield [westerfield@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:27 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Fw: Nick Muff's Kansas City Southern Layout

Eric Bronsky sent me this link - Al Westerfield


OMG, this guy is the ULTIMATE KCS fan! You must see his basement -- what this guy has done is unbelievable! Watch this video first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60rTxXcPjFg

A feature article about Nick's basement and layout appears in the August, 2011 issue of Model Railroad Hobbyist. What? Did I hear you correctly? You're going to run down to the hobby shop and buy a copy? Well, it ain't sold in stores! MRH is a 100% digital online magazine and the price is right -- FREE. Here's a direct link to the magazine article:

http://issuu.com/mr-hobbyist/docs/mrh11-08-aug2011-ol/47?viewMode=presentation&mode=embed

Print it out, if you want! Better still, if you subscribe to this magazine (subscriptions are also FREE), you can download and watch the entire 30-minute interview with Nick Muff in HD! The magazine's home page is http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/.

-- Eric

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