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Re: Lauderdale Report

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Dave asks:

Did the reps by chance state when the UP CA-series caboose would be
available for delivery to consumers??
I think Bill Wischer indicated that the CA-1 would be available in the fall. Trix didn't indicate when the CA-3 would be available.

Mike Brock


Air hose details for Westerfield kits

ajc5150 <ajc5150@...>
 

I built some Westerfield USRA SS box cars (CNJ, RDG, & C&NW), as well
as 2 RI Fowler clones. They are finished and ready for paint, minus
the air hoses.

I'm looking for suggestions as to what to use for the air hose
details. I've thought mounting a small block of styrene to the right
of the coupler box to hold a Detail Associates 6206. Is there
another part that would be more appropriate?


Thanks

Andy Cich


Re: 1925-1930 Home Cars on AT&SF and GC&SF

Eric Hiser <ehiser@...>
 

Tim:
Thanks very much for the ICC stats on the AT&SF & GC&SF. This information
will help (a lot) on working out a representative balance!

Eric Hiser
Phoenix, AZ


Re: Over Sherman Hill!

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

And you oughta know Greg, since you wrote that MM article! ;o)

At 08:09 PM 7/26/2002, you wrote:
Clark,

OOOPPPSS This was an ACF car not a PS-1 and delivered in 1948, painted FC red no black ends or roof if pre-1953. It would have an 8-foot door (YSD) and oridinally blt for coil steel and general merchandice. Tim is correct the car was shown in MM and had an IH of 10-foot 4-inches so the top rib was foreshortened.

Greg Martin

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: F&C

armprem
 

RE F&C kits:Steve's kits have improved over the years.Some of his early kits
left a lot to be desired.I have built a fair number and have found the
quality to vary. His Rutland stock cars are on a par with Westerfield and
Sunshine.His CP"Big Otis'' is also excellent.He has been upgrading many of
his cars.Two areas that need major improvement are his plans and his

decals-.Armand Premo---- Original Message -----
From: "ed_mines" <ed_mines@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:35 PM
Subject: [STMFC] F&C


I've read some snipes at F&C. What do you guys think of their quality?
I built a CNJ composite gon a couple of years ago and it practically
fell together. The underframe was complex, but all one piece. I
bought a couple of kits when they had a "sale" and I got what I paid
for, barely.
A couple of their built up kits look nice in the Walthers catalog
like their D&H gons.
I bought and built a fair number of their kits under different names
including Yankee Clipper.
The detail isn't as good as Westerfield or Sunshine but the cars are
much easier to assemble.



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Re: Lauderdale Report

Greg Martin
 

Hey Mike,

Do you have a need for an old Revell CA-1. The Walthers will finally put
mine to death...

Greg Martin


Re: Over Sherman Hill!

Greg Martin
 

Tim,

Your absolutely correct ... that's what I get for reading my mail from work
at lunch...


Tim O'Conner writes...
<< Greg I believe you're thinking of 1300-1399, which were PS-1 box cars.
Cars 1200-1299 were not PS-1.>>

But another good project...

Greg Martin


Re: Over Sherman Hill!

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Greg Martin wrote

Are you trying to ID the car type? This is a P&WV PS-1 Blt 1947
Greg I believe you're thinking of 1300-1399, which were PS-1
box cars. Cars 1200-1299 were not PS-1.


Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Over Sherman Hill!

Greg Martin
 

Clark,

OOOPPPSS This was an ACF car not a PS-1 and delivered in 1948, painted FC red no black ends or roof if pre-1953. It would have an 8-foot door (YSD) and oridinally blt for coil steel and general merchandice. Tim is correct the car was shown in MM and had an IH of 10-foot 4-inches so the top rib was foreshortened.

Greg Martin


Re: Over Sherman Hill!

Greg Martin
 

Clark,

Are you trying to ID the car type? This is a P&WV PS-1 Blt 1947, no end ribs, 7-foot Superior Panel door. I am not sure of the date on your WB so I can't properly ID the paint scheme, but I belive it would have been FC Red with black ends and roof, simple P&WV reporting marks and the typical round P&WV herald (pre-1953 paint scheme with the Symbol of Servive Script). The deccal were available from Champ, but I beleive that they are now discontinued. I have a friend who has had some custom made, I believe he still has some available.Let me know if you need a set and I will contact him.

The saw mill was on the SP&S' OE sub, about 28 miles south of Salem, OR. The mill is long gone.

Hope this helps.
Greg Martin
Salem, OR


Re: Accurail Trucks

Richard Hendrickson
 

Tim O'Connor grumps:

...Can't say as I share your feelings
about the Accurail "Bettendorf" truck. I can't stand 'em -- they
just look funky to me. Different strokes I guess.
Had your eyes checked lately, Tim? Could you elaborate on what you think
is "funky" about them?

IMO, the Accurail "Bettendorf" truck is one of the best on the market,
crisply molded and very close in appearance to its intended prototype; I'd
fault it only because it's mis-named. It's also the only SOTA HO truck
that represents an earlier ARA/AAR truck with a spring plank; all the
others model AAR trucks of later self-aligning spring-plankless design. So
on many models of pre-WW-II freight cars (and some cars as late as the
early 1950s) they're the only game in town.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: 1925-1930 Home Cars on AT&SF and GC&SF

tim gilbert <tgilbert@...>
 

Eric,

You wrote:

Do you have similar percentage of average percent of ATSF owned cars on the
ATSF for the period 1925-1930?
Not quite because the ICC's OPERATING STATISTICS OF LARGE STEAM
RAILROADS separated the Gulf, Colorado & Santa Fe from the AT&SF in the
1925-1930 period - the AT&SF numbers did include the Panhandle & Santa
Fe. For the 1940-60 Reports, the GC&SF was consolidated into the AT&SF.

The percent of AT&SF cars on the AT&SF and GC&SF cars on the GC&SF in
1925-1930 were:

AT&SF GC&SF
1925 77.2% 65.7%
1926 73.1% 63.1%
1927 75.5% 65.0%
1928 76.0% 68.1%
1929 73.2% 68.6%
1930 80.9% 78.3%

Hope this helps, Tim Gilbert


Unknown metal running board

lewise_green <willibecher@...>
 

Gents:
Need your help. Have a metal running board and caboose step applied
to new cabooses in 1947 that I am unable to identify. I have ruled
out Apex, Blaw-Knox, Morton and US Gypsum. Other possibilities
include Champion, Irving and Kerrigan.

I have checked 1940, 1943, 1946, 1953 and 1957 Car Bldr Cycs, and
1954 Ry Supply Industry Yearbook. If anyone has another source or
feels he can help, I can send photo and drawing as email attachments.

Gene Green
willibecher@...


F&C

ed_mines
 

I've read some snipes at F&C. What do you guys think of their quality?
I built a CNJ composite gon a couple of years ago and it practically
fell together. The underframe was complex, but all one piece. I
bought a couple of kits when they had a "sale" and I got what I paid
for, barely.
A couple of their built up kits look nice in the Walthers catalog
like their D&H gons.
I bought and built a fair number of their kits under different names
including Yankee Clipper.
The detail isn't as good as Westerfield or Sunshine but the cars are
much easier to assemble.


Re: Lauderdale Report

WK2SHR@...
 

Mike:

Did the reps by chance state when the UP CA-series caboose would be
available for delivery to consumers??

If so, from whom may we obtain it? I've searched around, and no one seems
to know anything about it.

Thanks,

Dave


Accurail

ed_mines
 

If I'm not mistaken Dennis Storzak is the proprietor of Accurail. He
should be legendary with our group!


Re: Over Sherman Hill!

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Clark Propst wrote

I'd like to help Mike Brock get a resin kit built. So, here's a car
that I think went over Sherman Hill.

This is from the MW waybills. I was working on the spread sheet when I
saw this routing.

509 5/13 PWV 1200 XM 41'8 steel box, from Timberlane Lumber Albany OR,
to Lyman Lumber Summit Park, SP-Ogden-UP-CoBluf-MILW-MW, fir lumber 36.6 tons

See September 1993 Mainline Modeler for a builder photo of this car.
It's actually a pretty standard AAR box car and can be built with a
Branchline kit. Also see Railmodel Journal November 1999 for a shot
of P&WV #1236.

Specs: P&WV series 1200-1299 blt 1946 ACF lot 2961
10p rivet RP roof 4/4 IDE-2 YSD-1 doors 8-rung
EQUIPCO brake GYPSUM rb ASF A-3 trucks

translation:

4/4 IDE-2: 4/4 "rolling pin" w/ short top rib
YSD-1: Youngstown door w/ recessed partition seams (same
door as used on 1940-era cars)


Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
Sterling, Massachusetts


Over Sherman Hill!

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

I'd like to help Mike Brock get a resin kit built. So, here's a car
that I think went over Sherman Hill.

This is from the MW waybills. I was working on the spread sheet when I
saw this routing.

509 5/13 PWV 1200 XM 41'8 steel box, from Timberlane Lumber Albany OR,
to Lyman Lumber Summit Park,
SP-Ogden-UP-CoBluf-MILW-MW, fir lumber 36.6 tons
Clark


Re: ACL Hoppers

D. Scott Chatfield
 

DBlake asked:

How about the steel plants in B'Ham?
There's plenty of coal in the hills of northern Alabama. That's why
Birmingham is where it is, and it wasn't even founded until the 1870s.
Like Pittsburgh, it sits near deposits of coal, iron, and limestone.

Scott Chatfield


Re: Unbeatable service

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Now, as soon as I use up my stock of Kadee couplers, I'll go back for a bulk
order of Accurail Proto:HO couplers. My initial 12 pack showed me they're my
preferred coupler.
Jim, I agree with you there. Can't say as I share your feelings
about the Accurail "Bettendorf" truck. I can't stand 'em -- they
just look funky to me. Different strokes I guess.


Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
Sterling, Massachusetts

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