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New DVD is available and an October Sale!

Scott <smason2@...>
 

Hi folks,

Fall is here and so is my new DVD, "Making Model Trees, Volume 1".

Nothing adds dimension, texture and character to a model railroad like trees, but until about 10 years ago, you either had to make your own, or choose from a small selection or commercial products. Now, you have many choices. You can still make your own, or you can choose from a wide selection of commercial products by companies like Noch, Heki, Woodland Scenics, Bachmann , and many more.

These trees come ready to install, or as tree kits. Scenic Express (www.scenicexpress.com) provides a wide array of trees.

Watch as I show you how easy it is to add great looking trees to your model railroad.

Here's the link to order this DVD:

http://scottymason.com/Store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=21

Here's an even better deal...For the month of October, buy any two DVD's and get the third one free. Just order two, and indicate in the message box on the checkout page which free DVD you want. I'll send them right out. This applies to multiples of two as well. Buy four DVD's and get two free, etc...!!!!

I'm also working on the pilot model for my next craftsman structure kit. THis will be a multiple building kit with lots of character and detail. Stay tuned!

Thanks, and have a great fall!

Scott
www.scottymason.com


Re: HOn3 to HO standard gauge tank WAS:Re: RR Prototype modeling Time Line project-- (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Marty;

They are very similar to a group that UTLX had that were used into the
sixties, that included UTLX 12283, but that were, if I remember, 5-course,
and had double elbow vents on the B-end of the dome, no dome platform, plus
the typical UTLX plate-backed placard board and defect card holder. One
might even save the paint, if one were careful about the scoring and rivet
overlays, but the existing course would have to go, as it is in the wrong
location.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marty
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:21 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] HOn3 to HO standard gauge tank WAS:Re: RR Prototype modeling
Time Line project--



Would the Blackstone Models HOn3 tank car
(http://www.blackstonemodels.com/new/tankcar/index.php) work for a similar
narrow gauge to standard gauge conversion? I know one variant of these cars
were built as standard gauge and converted to narrow gauge.

Marty

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "lnbill"
<fgexbill@...> wrote:

Richard

If my memory is correct, part of the conversion involved using an odd Kadee
coupler to have a proper size knuckle that would fit in the coupler box. Th
compromise was that essentially the couple would not swivel. Neat model
nonetheless.

Bill Welch


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , Richard
Hendrickson <rhendrickson@> wrote:

On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:10 PM, lnbill wrote:

i confess I did not know Precision Scale offered a standard gauge
version of their Van Dyke car. I followed Richard H.'s magazine
article to convert a narrow gauge kit to standard gauge.
Bill, essentially the only difference between the NG and standard
gauge kits was the trucks (and the trucks PS provided in the latter
weren't correct - the prototype trucks were 5' wheelbase, not 5'6").
So I wouldn't consider that to be a kit which is prototypically
correct right out of the box.

Richard Hendrickson



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Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


HOn3 to HO standard gauge tank WAS:Re: RR Prototype modeling Time Line project--

Marty McGuirk
 

Would the Blackstone Models HOn3 tank car (http://www.blackstonemodels.com/new/tankcar/index.php) work for a similar narrow gauge to standard gauge conversion? I know one variant of these cars were built as standard gauge and converted to narrow gauge.

Marty

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Richard

If my memory is correct, part of the conversion involved using an odd Kadee coupler to have a proper size knuckle that would fit in the coupler box. Th compromise was that essentially the couple would not swivel. Neat model nonetheless.

Bill Welch


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@> wrote:

On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:10 PM, lnbill wrote:

i confess I did not know Precision Scale offered a standard gauge
version of their Van Dyke car. I followed Richard H.'s magazine
article to convert a narrow gauge kit to standard gauge.
Bill, essentially the only difference between the NG and standard
gauge kits was the trucks (and the trucks PS provided in the latter
weren't correct - the prototype trucks were 5' wheelbase, not 5'6").
So I wouldn't consider that to be a kit which is prototypically
correct right out of the box.

Richard Hendrickson



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Re: IMWX/Red Caboose 1937 AAR replacement steps

mopacfirst
 

I've found that the best time for attaching steps is a few minutes before attaching the trucks, which go a long way toward protecting the steps. For Branchline, that meant I do the stirrup steps, side grabs and ladders in operation, since the side ladder sort of fits over the step on that end. RC / Intermountain have a problematic step molding which means filing a bevel or breaking the corner on the top and outward end of the step attachment to be sure it will mount squarely against the underside of the car.

Ron Merrick

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Yeah, step breakage is all too common. I've learned not to attach the
steps until the car is complete. For factory painted cars that means I
wait until after doing reweigh decals etc


Re: IMWX/Red Caboose 1937 AAR replacement steps

Tim O'Connor
 

Yeah, step breakage is all too common. I've learned not to attach the
steps until the car is complete. For factory painted cars that means I
wait until after doing reweigh decals etc and basic weathering, and
just before the final dullcote.

Tim O'

At 10/6/2011 12:12 PM Thursday, you wrote:
I too use the metal A-Line steps exclusively on models that we be handled.
They are installed when I build the kit because the breakage is inevitable
and it is easier to do when you are building than when finished.

Allen Cain


Re: GN 71853 70 Ton Airslide Hopper

John Pautz
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, larrywolohon@... wrote:

Per my copy of GN Equipment Color Pictorial Book Two - Freight Cars by Scott Thompson, # 71853 is an  Airslide covered hopper built in 1962 by GATC with a capacity of 154000 # or 2600  cu ft.  
Larry Wolohon
Thanks Larry.

John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components


Re: GN 71853 70 Ton Airslide Hopper

Larry Wolohon
 

John,



Per my copy of GN Equipment Color Pictorial Book Two - Freight Cars by Scott Thompson, # 71853 is an  Airslide covered hopper built in 1962 by GATC with a capacity of 154000 # or 2600  cu ft.  



Larry Wolohon

----- Original Message -----


From: "Trackman" <jfpautz@comcast.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:40:34 PM
Subject: [STMFC] GN 71853 70 Ton Airslide Hopper

 




Can anyone confirm this as a valid car number, and if so, what was the build date.

Thank you,
John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components


GN 71853 70 Ton Airslide Hopper

John Pautz
 

Can anyone confirm this as a valid car number, and if so, what was the build date.

Thank you,
John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components


Re: Kadee Bracket Grabs

Bill Welch
 

I have to admit I am disappointed to hear how fiddley these grabs are but not surprised I guess. I remember when I was using the Detail Associates bracket grabs that they could jump around like crickets. I think having someone create a template is a good idea. As an alternative to metal, perhaps Jon Cagle could do this with laser cut heavy paper.

Myself I may hold off right now. I have enough of the Overland parts for about thirty cars and several years ago the late Terry Wegman did "lost plastic" bracket grabs and sill steps for all of my undec. IMWX and InterMountain (PS1 & 1942 ARA) kits that I intend to build.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Paul Lyons <cobrapsl@...> wrote:


Ben, Bill,
I have been using Kadee grab irons on some models for the last few years and there is a downside side--- that is why I said "some" models. The Kadee grab has four attachment pins, which requires four precision located holes if you are going to use them as intended. I know, everyone is going to say "all you have to is make a template". The way these pins are designed with a slope the template has to be DEAD accurate, or the grab will not seat right. Remember these are press fits on Kadee models! This accurate a template is not something that is easy to make unless you have a machine shop. I am actually considering having a special shaped template made for the IMWX/RC/IM boxcar models. The template would be designed to lip over the end and bottom, such that both grab locations were perfectly located and the holes would be dead on Kadee dimensions for drilling. For now I cut off two of the "pins" and use a styrene drill template with oversize holes for some "wiggle room". Not perfect, but it works fairly well. When my stash of Overland grabs run out, I will probably get serious about the template/s needed for the Kadee grabs.
Paul Lyons


Re: RR Prototype modeling Time Line project--IM Type 27 AC&F tank car

Bill Welch
 

Richard

If my memory is correct, part of the conversion involved using an odd Kadee coupler to have a proper size knuckle that would fit in the coupler box. Th compromise was that essentially the couple would not swivel. Neat model nonetheless.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:10 PM, lnbill wrote:

i confess I did not know Precision Scale offered a standard gauge
version of their Van Dyke car. I followed Richard H.'s magazine
article to convert a narrow gauge kit to standard gauge.
Bill, essentially the only difference between the NG and standard
gauge kits was the trucks (and the trucks PS provided in the latter
weren't correct - the prototype trucks were 5' wheelbase, not 5'6").
So I wouldn't consider that to be a kit which is prototypically
correct right out of the box.

Richard Hendrickson



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: RR Prototype modeling Time Line project--IM Type 27 AC&F tank car

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:10 PM, lnbill wrote:

i confess I did not know Precision Scale offered a standard gauge
version of their Van Dyke car. I followed Richard H.'s magazine
article to convert a narrow gauge kit to standard gauge.
Bill, essentially the only difference between the NG and standard
gauge kits was the trucks (and the trucks PS provided in the latter
weren't correct - the prototype trucks were 5' wheelbase, not 5'6").
So I wouldn't consider that to be a kit which is prototypically
correct right out of the box.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: RR Prototype modeling Time Line project--IM Type 27 AC&F tank car

Jack Burgess
 

<i confess I did not know Precision Scale offered a standard gauge
<version of their Van Dyke car. I followed Richard H.'s magazine article
<to convert a narrow gauge kit to standard gauge.
<
<Bill Welch

They do now but didn't back when Richard's article came out...


Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: RR Prototype modeling Time Line project--IM Type 27 AC&F tank car

Bill Welch
 

i confess I did not know Precision Scale offered a standard gauge version of their Van Dyke car. I followed Richard H.'s magazine article to convert a narrow gauge kit to standard gauge.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


When was the Red Caboose 103W introduced? This is an accurate model
of a postwar ACF tank car. I think the O scale kit was introduced first,
as was the case with the Red Caboose USRA flat car.

And what about Precision Scale's "Van Dyke" HO scale standard-gauge
tank car? When was that introduced?

Of course you all are focused on STMFC era kits. I believe that Walthers
introduced some accurate post-1960 tank car kits representing Union Tank Car
prototypes several years before the Intermountain Type 27.

Tim O'Connor



I checked some magazine ads and L-L introduced the first Proto 2000
freight cars, the 50' double door auto box cars, late in 1995, so the
tank cars were at least two or three years later.

This is a good lesson for me in being more precise in my language
however. I should have said "the IM kit represented the first
styrene kit that could be BUILT OUT OF THE BOX to represent
accurately an actual prototype." I am certainly willing to say the
L-L tank car was that kit if I have the sequence reversed of when
the IM and L-L kits were initially released.

Bill Welch
Richard Hendrickson


Re: Alps Printing was Bracket Grabs

John H <sprinthag@...>
 

Yep. I just wish such printers (the machines) weren't so expensive. The advantage of the Alps were they were afforable for the average guy.

I dunno, I have made some pretty opaque decals for many a person.

John Hagen

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, jerryglow@... wrote:

That's what my printer uses. I like the service as it's a good "one stop" shop as they can print color on vinyl (just did some full scale gasoline pump signs for a customer) and can cut vinyl for masks or lettering - all from the same artwork!

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "John H" <sprinthag@> wrote:
.............

The technology exits to make an inkjet that can print white and print overlays without losing registration. It just has to be put together in a package and made for reasonable cost. A big order in today's instant profit market.

John Hagen


Re: Alps Printing was Bracket Grabs

jerryglow2
 

That's what my printer uses. I like the service as it's a good "one stop" shop as they can print color on vinyl (just did some full scale gasoline pump signs for a customer) and can cut vinyl for masks or lettering - all from the same artwork!

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "John H" <sprinthag@...> wrote:
.............

The technology exits to make an inkjet that can print white and print overlays without losing registration. It just has to be put together in a package and made for reasonable cost. A big order in today's instant profit market.

John Hagen


Re: Alps Printing was Bracket Grabs

jerryglow2
 

My decals are digitally done not silk screened. They are more scruff restant than ALPS ones and the white is more opaque. I can run any number just like an ALPS once artwork cost is absorbed but that part is true of any menthod.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "John H" <sprinthag@...> wrote:

BTW, Kadee also does "Printed" custom runs as opposed to their "Thermal printed (Alps)" custom decals. Check their website.

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/custom.htm

Jerry Glow is doing many great sets and he is having them printed by a high-tech screen printer. I have no idea what his minimum run is but I know that Microscale requires a 250 decal minimum. And they ain't inexpensive.

What I do not understand is what is so much better about screen printing over Alps printing? I have many satisfied customers who feel my Alps printed decals are better than screen printed. I can make decals that are more opaque than many commercial printers. Alps can print readable lettering smaller than some screen printing. It really comes to the method the individual printer uses and his ability to use that method to the fullest.

Often it comes down to artwork. If you have good artwork, either method can yield good decals. It also involves volume. Running 250 sets on an Alps is silly. There is no reduction in cost per set with high volumes in Alps decals. One costs the same per set as 500. Each one takes the same time. The only saving is the number of sets that can be fitted onto one sheet of decal paper. Beyond that, no savings.

But for the guy that wants less than 25 sets, Alps is a great method.

BTW, Don Manlick DMDECALS@... does very nice screen printed decals and has a minimum of 26 sets. And he is a retired CNW employee plus a great modeler to boot. He is happy to accept phone calls at (920) 684-8688 although he may not always be home. When I get customers that want 25 + sets, I normally refer them to Don.

John Hagen

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Glow <jerryglow@> wrote:

So does Jerry Glow but done on a commercial ink printer NOT an ALPS

Jerry Glow]
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Mike Aufderheide <mononinmonon@> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> Â
> Thank you for this link. My stash of Red Caboose spares was running
low! By the by, I noticed that Kadee offers custom Alps Printing.Â
The need for this comes up on the list occasioanally. See:
http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/custom.htm
> Â
> Regards,
> Â
> Mike Aufdeheide





Re: Alps Printing was Bracket Grabs

John H <sprinthag@...>
 

Can't put a number on it but the inks will be produced through May of 2015. Then we will be depending on dealers stock. There are several people working on getting another manufacturer to make replacement ribbons but so far no luck. That just may happen but a bigger question is how long these finicky machines will last.

The technology exits to make an inkjet that can print white and print overlays without losing registration. It just has to be put together in a package and made for reasonable cost. A big order in today's instant profit market.

John Hagen

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

John Hagen asked:
"What I do not understand is what is so much better about screen printing over
Alps printing?"

I've never had a quality issue with Alps printed decals, and as you pointed out,
they're great for small quantities.  The real question is "How many more decals
can you print before your supplies run out for good?"


Ben Hom


Re: Alps Printing was Bracket Grabs

Benjamin Hom
 

John Hagen asked:
"What I do not understand is what is so much better about screen printing over
Alps printing?"

I've never had a quality issue with Alps printed decals, and as you pointed out,
they're great for small quantities.  The real question is "How many more decals
can you print before your supplies run out for good?"


Ben Hom


Re: Alps Printing was Bracket Grabs

John H <sprinthag@...>
 

BTW, Kadee also does "Printed" custom runs as opposed to their "Thermal printed (Alps)" custom decals. Check their website.

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/custom.htm

Jerry Glow is doing many great sets and he is having them printed by a high-tech screen printer. I have no idea what his minimum run is but I know that Microscale requires a 250 decal minimum. And they ain't inexpensive.

What I do not understand is what is so much better about screen printing over Alps printing? I have many satisfied customers who feel my Alps printed decals are better than screen printed. I can make decals that are more opaque than many commercial printers. Alps can print readable lettering smaller than some screen printing. It really comes to the method the individual printer uses and his ability to use that method to the fullest.

Often it comes down to artwork. If you have good artwork, either method can yield good decals. It also involves volume. Running 250 sets on an Alps is silly. There is no reduction in cost per set with high volumes in Alps decals. One costs the same per set as 500. Each one takes the same time. The only saving is the number of sets that can be fitted onto one sheet of decal paper. Beyond that, no savings.

But for the guy that wants less than 25 sets, Alps is a great method.

BTW, Don Manlick DMDECALS@TM.NET does very nice screen printed decals and has a minimum of 26 sets. And he is a retired CNW employee plus a great modeler to boot. He is happy to accept phone calls at (920) 684-8688 although he may not always be home. When I get customers that want 25 + sets, I normally refer them to Don.

John Hagen

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Glow <jerryglow@...> wrote:

So does Jerry Glow but done on a commercial ink printer NOT an ALPS

Jerry Glow]
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Mike Aufderheide <mononinmonon@> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> Â
> Thank you for this link. My stash of Red Caboose spares was running
low! By the by, I noticed that Kadee offers custom Alps Printing.Â
The need for this comes up on the list occasioanally. See:
http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/custom.htm
> Â
> Regards,
> Â
> Mike Aufdeheide



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Re: Kadee Bracket Grabs (UNCLASSIFIED)

Scott Seders
 

Perhaps Plano could be persuaded to create a template.


Scott Seders

----- Original Message -----




From: "Elden SAW Gatwood" <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:42:12 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Kadee Bracket Grabs (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Paul;

I was hoping somebody would say it.  I had the same experience with Kadee
grabs, which are so precisely designed you have to drill perfect holes or
they bow or misalign, and I had been doing the same thing with them; cutting
off two diagonally-opposed pins and drilling two larger holes so there is
enough "play", but I have to say, I sure would like to have a metal template,
too!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Lyons
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:12 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Kadee Bracket Grabs

  


Ben, Bill,
I have been using Kadee grab irons on some models for the last few years and
there is a downside side--- that is why I said "some" models. The Kadee grab
has four attachment pins, which requires four precision located holes if you
are going to use them as intended. I know, everyone is going to say "all you
have to is make a template". The way these pins are designed with a slope the
template has to be DEAD accurate, or the grab will not seat right. Remember
these are press fits on Kadee models! This accurate a template is not
something that is easy to make unless you have a machine shop. I am actually
considering having a special shaped template made for the IMWX/RC/IM boxcar
models. The template would be designed to lip over the end and bottom, such
that both grab locations were perfectly located and the holes would be dead
on Kadee dimensions for drilling. For now I cut off two of the "pins" and use
a styrene drill template with oversize holes for some "wiggle room". Not
perfect, but it works fairly well. When my stash of Overland grabs run out, I
will probably get serious about the template/s needed for the Kadee grabs.
Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Hom <b.hom@att.net <mailto:b.hom%40att.net> >
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thu, Oct 6, 2011 7:05 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Kadee Bracket Grabs

Bill Welch wrote:
"I have not seen any mention of this on our list so I thought I let people
know that Kadee now offers their Bracket Grabs as parts. Here are the part
number from their website.

2250 Side grab irons-Red Oxide: 16 pieces
2251 Side grab irons-Boxcar Re: 16 pieces
2252 End grab irons-Red Oxide: 4 pair
2253 End grab irons-Boxcar Red: 4 pair
2254 End grab irons-Black: 4 pair"

These are most welcome parts, as there really hasn't been any decent
aftermarket parts for these to replace clunky or easily-damaged kit parts.
I've been making do with salvaging the Detail Associates parts (which are too
"wide") by cutting away the "brackets" and replacing the "grab" portion with
wire.

Ben Hom



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