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Fox Valley B&O wagontop

Ken Robbins
 

I recently picked up an HO scale B&O wagontop boxcar imported by Fox Valley, that has the large B&O lettering. It's a beautiful model and I really prefer it over the older, smaller lettering, but because I model the year 1954, I have a concern about the "NEW 6-63" date on the side.

Can anyone on this list tell me when these M-53's were first repainted with the large B&O lettering?

Thanks.

Ken Robbins
Hancock, NH


Bulkhead F-70-6 flat

mopacfirst
 

I picked up one of the Intermountain-made SP F-70-6 bulkhead flats. Very nice. A lot of my other cars are in storage, so I can't check what I did before, but I looked at the prototype photos in the SP book and can't tell exactly what the best choice of truck would be (this prototype is older than most of the new 70-trucks that are now available) so what looks best to me is the Tahoe 50-ton Barber lateral motion truck. Anybody have a better idea?

Ron Merrick


Re: Tarnished brass

Tim O'Connor
 

Chuck

Brass polish should do it. Same stuff you'd use on brass candlesticks.

Note that most brass has a lacquer clearcoat -- a bath in lacquer thinner
will remove this, followed by a warm bath in detergent. Then polish, and
bathe again.

Tim O'Connor

At 11/5/2011 10:14 PM Saturday, you wrote:
List,
Any suggestions for removing light tarnish on my brass, Nickel Plate
Products, steam era freight car?
TIA,
Chuck Hladik


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC BOXCAR PAINT MIX

Tim O'Connor
 

A Mainline Modeler article, August 1990, recommends

FLOQUIL #74 box car red
FLOQUIL #88 DH10 caboose red

I used this formula and it turned out ok. The NP colors changed
after the war to a darker shade. But... I agree with Schuyler that
#88 is very inconsistent over the years.

The NP Society is supposed to be publishing a set of drift cards and
these have been very carefully researched -- I think once they do
appear they will be the best available reference for most of us for
NP colors.

Tim O'Connor

P.S. For myself I made a "chart" posted in my basement -- colors and
color mixes applied to a sheet of Evergreen styrene. It has 20 different
"box car red" colors. Colors can appear QUITE DIFFERENT when they have
dried on a surface, than when they are in the bottle!

-----------------------------------------

The chart in RPC, Vol. 3, give the NP color chip match for Floquil as:
1 part Boxcar Red and 1 part Oxide Red
The only mixes in the table using D&H Caboose Red are for Alton, CB&Q, and NYC.
Nelson


Re: something fishy about this tank car auction...

Tim O'Connor
 

John

Ebay makes it easy to find the whacky auctions... just do a search
of completed auctions and select a minimum price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230690961844
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370554967914

Tim O'Connor


I can't top the price, but I think I can top the item. I was talking with a man yesterday
who told me about an item that went for $1000 on ebay. It was a color slide of a N&W steam switcher.
John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL


Re: something fishy about this tank car auction... (UNCLASSIFIED)

John C. La Rue, Jr. <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
 

I can't top the price, but I think I can top the item. I was talking with a man yesterday who told me about an item that went for $1000 on ebay. It was a color slide of a N&W steam switcher.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Williams <pennsy6200@...>
To: stmfc <stmfc@...>
Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: something fishy about this tank car auction... (UNCLASSIFIED)





i would like to know the winner. I do know someone that said he would bid $1000.00 just to get the item. Even if it is worth half. He has the money to blow. He even did it to me!
Dennis Williams/ owner


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC BOXCAR PAINT MIX

Schuyler Larrabee
 

The real danger with any formula that uses Floquil D&H Caboose red is that
it is notoriously variable from batch to batch. The joke was, when Floquil
was in Cobleskill NY next to the D&H, that they just matched the last
caboose through town, and therefore . . .



Schuyler



Bill,

The chart in RPC, Vol. 3, give the NP color chip match for Floquil as:

1 part Boxcar Red and 1 part Oxide Red

The only mixes in the table using D&H Caboose Red are for Alton, CB&Q, and
NYC.

Nelson



A while back someone on the list submitted a paint formula for Northern
Pacific boxcar red that
utilized Floquil D&H Caboose Red. Could the source or anyone please contact
me with this
mix?

The answer could be in using the archives, however, this has proven to be
easier said than
done.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Pardie

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Re: looking for drop down brake wheel assemblies

Schuyler Larrabee
 

What I really like about these photos (which are really cool to see the way
it worked!) is that the shafts are bent. Like most of our models.



Schuyler



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
david d zuhn
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 4:50 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] looking for drop down brake wheel assemblies





I'm currently building some W I & M (Washington, Idaho & Montana) wooden
flatcars, and the last thing that I'm stuck on is the drop-down brake wheel
assembly that they had. These brake stems could be raised vertically or
dropped down to run parallel to the end beam of the car, and thus
accessible from the ground. More importantly, when dropped down, cranes
on sleds could be dragged from car to car.

I've posted a couple of pictures at
http://whitepineroute.org/notes/2011/11/06/looking-for-detail-part-help/

I've searched for parts that match, but have come up empty. Anyone know of
an available part in HO scale?

--
david d zuhn Saint Paul Bridge & Terminal Ry.
zoo @ stpaulterminal.org










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looking for drop down brake wheel assemblies

david zuhn
 

I'm currently building some W I & M (Washington, Idaho & Montana) wooden
flatcars, and the last thing that I'm stuck on is the drop-down brake wheel
assembly that they had. These brake stems could be raised vertically or
dropped down to run parallel to the end beam of the car, and thus
accessible from the ground. More importantly, when dropped down, cranes
on sleds could be dragged from car to car.

I've posted a couple of pictures at
http://whitepineroute.org/notes/2011/11/06/looking-for-detail-part-help/

I've searched for parts that match, but have come up empty. Anyone know of
an available part in HO scale?

--
david d zuhn Saint Paul Bridge & Terminal Ry.
zoo @ stpaulterminal.org


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC BOXCAR PAINT MIX

Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
 

Bill,

The chart in RPC, Vol. 3, give the NP color chip match for Floquil as:

1 part Boxcar Red and 1 part Oxide Red

The only mixes in the table using D&H Caboose Red are for Alton, CB&Q, and
NYC.

Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 2:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] NORTHERN PACIFIC BOXCAR PAINT MIX






A while back someone on the list submitted a paint formula for Northern
Pacific boxcar red that
utilized Floquil D&H Caboose Red. Could the source or anyone please contact
me with this
mix?

The answer could be in using the archives, however, this has p;roven to be
easier said than
done.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Pardie


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC BOXCAR PAINT MIX

gary laakso
 

The other half of the mix is boxcar red.

gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
vasa0vasa@...

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM PARDIE
To: STMFC@...
Sent: 11/6/2011 3:23:59 PM
Subject: [STMFC] NORTHERN PACIFIC BOXCAR PAINT MIX





A while back someone on the list submitted a paint formula for Northern Pacific boxcar red that
utilized Floquil D&H Caboose Red. Could the source or anyone please contact me with this
mix?

The answer could be in using the archives, however, this has p;roven to be easier said than
done.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Pardie

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


NORTHERN PACIFIC BOXCAR PAINT MIX

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

A while back someone on the list submitted a paint formula for Northern Pacific boxcar red that
utilized Floquil D&H Caboose Red. Could the source or anyone please contact me with this
mix?

The answer could be in using the archives, however, this has p;roven to be easier said than
done.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Pardie


Tarnished brass

Charles Hladik
 

List,
Any suggestions for removing light tarnish on my brass, Nickel Plate
Products, steam era freight car?
TIA,
Chuck Hladik


FW: (erielack) More on those Atlas boxcars...

Schuyler Larrabee
 


As stated on their forums:

"They're RTR, and the web page has been corrected.

Rob Pisani
Atlas Model Railroad Co."




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Re: Speedwitch, PM/C&O Auto car

daveinyuma <drdavecampbell@...>
 

In the interests of providing closure to my rather cranky post of a few days ago... I am happy to report receipt of my PM Auto kit. I hope the high quality kits we've come to expect from Speedwitch will continue to be available.

Dave Campbell

--- In STMFC@..., "daveinyuma" <drdavecampbell@...> wrote:



--- In STMFC@..., "Aaron Gjermundson" <npin53@> wrote:

How soon would would the PM auto cars have gotten C&O paint after the 1947 purchase of the company?

http://www.speedwitch.com/Models/k111.htm

Has anyone built the kit yet? I saw one lettered for the PM on display in Lisle last weekend.

Aaron
I would LOVE to build this kit. I ordered (and paid) for one in July of 2010. So far no kit.

Dave Campbell


Re: something fishy about this tank car auction... (UNCLASSIFIED)

Al Campbell
 

I think the seller "Mr.Happy" will be changing his name to "Even_Happier" I
wonder if this comes close to a record price for a piece of STMFC HO
rolling stock? Al Campbell


Flat Car kit clearance sale

Andy Carlson
 

Hi,

I have the following Flat car kits in HO which I am offering for sale. All are
new, in their undisturbed original packaging.

I have multiples of most cars listed.

Intermountain #43799 70-Ton Bulkhead Flatcar...................$15.00
Red Caboose # RC-2200 42" Fishbelly flat car ....................$10.00
TICHY # 4021 50-Ton straight side sill flat car ......................$7.50
TICHY # 4040 40' steel flat w/ wood gon sides ...................$11.00
TICHY # 4042 40' bulkhead flat car .....................................$11.00
Walthers 89' flush deck TTX yellow flat car (Two RTR cars)..$41.00/both
Athearn BB 85' Cotton Belt flat w/ containers........................$5.00
Athearn BB 85' Union Pacific flat w/ containers ....................$5.00
ACCURAIL 89' Union Pacific flat w/ trailers ........................$11.00
ACCURAIL 89' Southern RY flat .........................................$6.00
Pittsburgh Scale Models resin AAR War Emer UP yellow scheme flat..$35.00
LifeLike P2K AAR 50-Ton SLSW flat car ............................$10.00
Same, C&NW
Same, D&RGW
Same, NKP
Same, NP

Red Caboose SP F-70-7 RTR '56 renumbering 53' flat car ........$24.00

Contact me off-list (Please) if interested or have questions. Prices do not
include shipping. Where I can, I ship by 1st class as being most economical. Buy
several, and USPS Flat-rate is helpful. Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: IM Milw RS box car

ken_olson54022 <kwolson@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., cepropst@... wrote:

Gee, I guess saying "You know what I meant" does cutting it here...
Clark Propst
They used to pound this into us at work.
Instead of just communicating so that you can be understood, you should try to communicate so that you CANNOT be MISUNDERSTOOD.

Ken Olson


Re: PRR F30A, and the Bowser and Sunshine cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Guys;

I have been asked about the PRR F30A, which, with 1,500 cars, was one
numerous flat car, and which of the phases the Bowser and Sunshine cars might
represent. The following is some facts, and then some opinions.

First car: 473765: Built 3/24/34; had the traditional hand brake with the
chain wrapped around the brake staff. The end sill is more or less straight
across, with two holes in the end casting for access to the chain wrapped
portion of the staff, and a smaller hole inboard for the retainer pipe. It
also had two raised half-moon poling pockets

Cars 473766 to 473802: Built early May 1934; the casting is revised for this
small production run (37 cars), where quarter hemispherical depressions
replaced the raised poling pockets, and a simpler small hole was left in the
end casting, but the retainer was relocated to the side of the car.

Cars 473803 to 474264: Built May 16, 1934 to August 1934; The remainder of
the first 500 car order, 462 cars, eliminate the retainer pipe hole, but
otherwise look similar.

Cars 474265-475264: Built August 16, 1934 to December 1934; The casting is
revised to include a broader exposed center sill casting on the B end, to
accommodate a power hand brake assembly moved closer to the center line of
the car, elimination of the take-up access hole, and a bump in the end sill
around it with a small hole at its base, just left of the draft gear.

This latter group is the group closest to what the Sunshine model appears to
me, to be, and what Bowser took a shot at. When the stake pocket lips are
added, the Sunshine model looks closest to the F30A of that last 1,000 car
group, of any option I know of. The Bowser car is....OK; but it is missing
several of the small details that say F30A to me: the stake pocket lips are
too small, the casting is not rounded enough on its edges, the center sill is
lacking, and the brake gear rudimentary. Not to mention the P&L....aack.

BTW, if you leave off the stake pocket lips, the Sunshine car would make a
fine F30D; cars 475300-475549.

I plan to use my Bowser car to do a bash into a F30E; the welded car. It
needs to have the stake pocket lips sanded off, bolster ends removed, and the
side sills made shallower (and replacement of the flange afterward), but this
is the car I'm afraid looks most like the Bowser model to me.

Elden Gatwood


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


Re: IM Milw RS box car

Clark Propst
 

Gee, I guess saying "You know what I meant" does cutting it here...
Clark Propst

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Clark, not to be too nitpicky, but "one of the best plastic kits I've
assembled" is not the same statement as "this model is fun to build"...

The Tichy (Gould) tank car kit may be the best engineered plastic kit
in HO scale ever, and is a joy to build. But I think I might run into
some flak here if I said it was the "best plastic kit"...

Hey, I have fun building Athearn blue box kits! They're probably a lot
more "fun" than most resin kits. I have nothing against having fun! :-)

Tim O'

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