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NYCentral Modeler 1st Quarter 2012

Noel Widdifield <NYCBigFour@...>
 

The third issue of the NYCentral Modeler has been posted on the NYCSHS website http://www.nycshs.org today. This issue has articles from several new writers and a couple authors who have contributed to the Modeler in previous issues. All of the articles feature topics about the New York Central System. This issue includes the final half of the interview with Tony Koester, editor of Kalmbach's annual Model Railroad Planning and Contributing Editor to Model Railroader.

We are pleased to feature articles by several authors bringing you topics including: "New York Central's West Side Freight Line" with modules by Ron Pasisi; Jim Six's "Recreating the New York Central Michigan Division Circa 1955"; another NYC tower article by Larry Faulkner; "Kitbashing HO NYC Steam Locomotives" by Tom Bailey; and all of the regular features of the magazine. This 61-page edition features many photos and the biographies of all of the authors. You will even see photos of some of our member's layouts, important information about the Society, and more details on the 2012 NYCSHS Convention.

The issue includes the regular feature on NYCS models coming out currently and in the near future. Jim Benedict, Associate Editor, who also writes a similar feature in the NYCSHS Central Headlight, writes this section.

This edition promises to be a truly exciting third issue for what we hope to be a regular benefit to those of you who model the New York Central Railroad. Even if your layout is not a NYCS one, you will find items of interest for your own modeling.

Our readers continue to provide us with very positive feedback on each issue. We believe that this issue continues the quality standard set by past issues. We hope to continue to receive positive feedback with this edition and also ask that you continue to send us interesting and outstanding articles in the future.

This e-zine is for members of the NYCSHS and non-members who model in all scales. Check it out today and let us know what you think.

Have a Happy New Year from all of us at the NYCSHS.

Thanks, Noel
Noel F. Widdifield
NYCSHS, Director
NYCentral Modeler, Editor


Happy New Year's resin sale!

Ray Breyer
 

Evening everyone,

To kick off the New Year, I've got 33 resin "will never get to them" kits for sale. 16 Sunshine, 12 F&C, 4 Westerfields, 1 Speedwich.

If interested, please email me OFF LIST at rtbsvrr69@yahoo.com

Thanks, and have a great 2012!

Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

SUVCWORR@...
 

Mt Vernon shops (http://www.mountvernonshops.com/) has containers for the Reading in resin. They are available in packs of 10 with decals.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@charter.net>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Reading USRA Gondola Load


I offered container carloads for the Reading USRA gon. The new owner of
Westerfield should be offering them in the future. – Al Westerfield

From: richtownsend@netscape.net
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 5:11 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Reading USRA Gondola Load


Tom,

Not a bad idea. But I suspect those containers didn't wander too far from the
home rails. Would that be right? My model railroad is set in Colorado, so the
load had to be something that would be transported a long distance.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Houle <mailto:thoule%40wi.rr.com>
To: STMFC <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:29 am
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Reading USRA Gondola Load

Rich,
I have a photo of Reading USRA gon 23019 loaded with Reading steel containers. I
can send it you and anyone else that is interested. I'm thinking Walthers at one
time or another sold these containers for use in their USRA gons.
Tom Houle

On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, mailto:richtownsend%40netscape.net wrote:

I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading
RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for it.
My research on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was known for
anthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea of a coal
load, and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale pretzels from
thin wire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be very realistic.
So I am asking the collective brain of this list for suggestions on
what to load in this car. Anyone?
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MTH lettering removal

Ron Morse
 

I have seen reference to the Polly Scale Easy Lift Off in the past but has anyone used it to remove lettering on MTH cars? This lettering is quite heavy and thick. If not any ideas on doing so. And yes I did look in the archives.
Thanks
Ron Morse
NYC/C&O/PM O scale in Springfield,MO


Re: Simplex Bolsters

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Todd Horton wrote:
Richard, Where was the Simplex manufacturing plant located? For what it's worth the 1925 C of G flat car that was recently saved had Simplex bolsters on it.
As the Simplex bolster was an ASF product, the question would where was the ASF plant. IIRC it was in St. Louis.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Simplex Bolsters

Todd Horton
 

Richard, Where was the Simplex manufacturing plant located?  For what it's worth the 1925 C of G flat car that was recently saved had Simplex bolsters on it.   Todd Horton


From: Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@opendoor.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Simplex Bolsters


 
On Jan 1, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Jon Miller wrote:

On 1 Jan 2012 at 4:05, soolinehistory wrote:

Left unsaid in my comments of a few days ago was my reason for
objection to calling something a
"Simplex truck." The Simplex bolsters were sold for use with many
different trucks, and indeed, were
somewhat dated by the time cast steel trucks became common
While I can't disagree with this I looked at a Red
Ball/Cape Line catalog and they have a Simplex High
Speed truck. Very strange looking and I don't think
I've ever seen a picture of one in use. Any comments
on this truck?
A completely different animal, Jon. The Simplex cast steel bolster
was introduced around the turn of the 20th century by the Simplex
Railway Appliance Co., which had disappeared by the early 1920s. The
Simplex high speed truck was an ASF design, shown in the 1937 CBCyc,
and though it never caught on in a big way, PFE and others applied
some of them to as an experiment. Apparently the truck worked okay
but wasn't a sufficient improvement over conventional trucks to
justify the added expense.

Richard Hendrickson

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Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

Todd Horton
 

This topic brings up a couple of points on my mind lately.
 
On topic,  Wasn't there a steel mill located outside of Pottsville Pa?  I recall seeing photos of PRR cars loaded with steel products from this plant. Did the Reading serve here as well? I know there were a big player in this area. If anyone knows of photos of the plant or have information about shipments leaving here I would be interested to see them. I assume both roads had access to the plant.
 
Slightly off topic but I think it's relevant and it was discussed here with in the past week was the loading of tractors on flat cars. This had me thinking about believable loads for flats and open gons. Since tractors were recently discussed I'll use that as an example. What roads flat cars would you expect a load of tractors on?  The C of G is my primary focus but I wouldn't expect to see a load of John Deere's on one of their flats.  Not saying that this didn't happen but I would be surprised to see it. There's an exception to any rule but I'm thinking about what general commodities you would expect to see on say XYZ roads car. I wouldn't expect to see a load a pulp wood in a Reading gon but I suppose it could have happened.  Boxcars and covered hoppers aren't really a consideration here since most of the time you can't tell what's loaded in them but that's another topic for later discussion. If this has been discussed in the past then I
apologize for bringing it back up.   Todd Horton
 
 
 

From: Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@opendoor.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Reading USRA Gondola Load


 
On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, richtownsend@netscape.net wrote:

I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading
RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for
it. My research on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was
known for anthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea
of a coal load, and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale
pretzels from thin wire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be
very realistic. So I am asking the collective brain of this list
for suggestions on what to load in this car. Anyone?
Richard, I agree with Bruce; steel products would be a common load in
Reading mill gons. However, I'm attaching a photo which shows a
ductwork load that would certainly be interesting and different. If
you decide to model it, be sure to let us see photos of the finished
product. Note the Taylor trucks on the gon. Photo by Col. Chet
McCoid from Bob's Photo Service, Providence, RI 12/57.

All the best in the new year,

Richard Hendrickson



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Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

I offered container carloads for the Reading USRA gon. The new owner of Westerfield should be offering them in the future. – Al Westerfield

From: richtownsend@netscape.net
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 5:11 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Reading USRA Gondola Load


Tom,

Not a bad idea. But I suspect those containers didn't wander too far from the home rails. Would that be right? My model railroad is set in Colorado, so the load had to be something that would be transported a long distance.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Houle <mailto:thoule%40wi.rr.com>
To: STMFC <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:29 am
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Reading USRA Gondola Load

Rich,
I have a photo of Reading USRA gon 23019 loaded with Reading steel containers. I can send it you and anyone else that is interested. I'm thinking Walthers at one time or another sold these containers for use in their USRA gons.
Tom Houle

On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, mailto:richtownsend%40netscape.net wrote:

I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading
RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for it.
My research on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was known for
anthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea of a coal
load, and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale pretzels from
thin wire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be very realistic.
So I am asking the collective brain of this list for suggestions on
what to load in this car. Anyone?
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Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

ShenangoRS@...
 

HI Tom,

I just acquired two of the Walthers USRA gons which I am planning to strip
and repaint. Last week I (re)found a set of John Hall reading
gondola decals in my decal box. I'd really like to see the picture you are
speaking of, if possible. I believe that this would make an interesting model.

Thank You,
Mike Bradley
Sharpsville, PA

In a message dated 1/1/2012 5:29:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
thoule@wi.rr.com writes:




Rich,
I have a photo of Reading USRA gon 23019 loaded with Reading steel
containers. I can send it you and anyone else that is interested. I'm thinking
Walthers at one time or another sold these containers for use in their USRA
gons.
Tom Houle

On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, _richtownsend@netscape.net_
(mailto:richtownsend@netscape.net) wrote:

I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading
RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for it.
My research on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was known for
anthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea of a coal
load, and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale pretzels from
thin wire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be very realistic.
So I am asking the collective brain of this list for suggestions on
what to load in this car. Anyone?
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Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

SUVCWORR@...
 

Richard,

The Reading served Fort Letterkenny outside Chambersburg, PA via its connection with the WM. Ft L was and is the principle location for rebuilding armor. For a different load, you could send a load of new tracks for armor or old tracks going for scrap or any component needed to rebuild armor.

Rich Orr



<richtownsend@netscape.net> 01/01/12 2:10 PM >>>I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for it. Myresearch on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was known foranthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea of a coal load,and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale pretzels from thinwire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be very realistic. So I amasking the collective brain of this list for suggestions on what to loadin this car. Anyone?Richard TownsendLincoln City, Oregon


Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

Richard Townsend
 

Tom,


Not a bad idea. But I suspect those containers didn't wander too far from the home rails. Would that be right? My model railroad is set in Colorado, so the load had to be something that would be transported a long distance.


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Houle <thoule@wi.rr.com>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:29 am
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Reading USRA Gondola Load





Rich,
I have a photo of Reading USRA gon 23019 loaded with Reading steel containers. I can send it you and anyone else that is interested. I'm thinking Walthers at one time or another sold these containers for use in their USRA gons.
Tom Houle

On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, richtownsend@netscape.net wrote:

I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading
RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for it.
My research on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was known for
anthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea of a coal
load, and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale pretzels from
thin wire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be very realistic.
So I am asking the collective brain of this list for suggestions on
what to load in this car. Anyone?
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Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

Richard Townsend
 

Thanks, Richard. I may rise to this challenge. As for the trucks, the reason I have the gon is that I came into a set of Eastern Car Works Taylor trucks and wanted something to put on top of them.


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@opendoor.com>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:45 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Reading USRA Gondola Load





On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, richtownsend@netscape.net wrote:

I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading
RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for
it. My research on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was
known for anthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea
of a coal load, and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale
pretzels from thin wire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be
very realistic. So I am asking the collective brain of this list
for suggestions on what to load in this car. Anyone?
Richard, I agree with Bruce; steel products would be a common load in
Reading mill gons. However, I'm attaching a photo which shows a
ductwork load that would certainly be interesting and different. If
you decide to model it, be sure to let us see photos of the finished
product. Note the Taylor trucks on the gon. Photo by Col. Chet
McCoid from Bob's Photo Service, Providence, RI 12/57.

All the best in the new year,

Richard Hendrickson



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Cocoa Beach weather forecast

mike brock <brockm@...>
 

For those coming down to Florida...Cocoa Beach...for Prototype Rails 2012...you may have noted my weather forecast that I issued back in Oct<?> calling for a temp in the 70's. Well...here's the latest: Thur: 66�, Fri 71�, Sat 74�, Sun 73� all days sunny with a slight breeze. Now, of course, I said nothing about night time temps...I mean, why would you be out wandering about at night?

It's nice to be right occasionally

Mike Brock


Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

Tom Houle <thoule@...>
 

Rich,
I have a photo of Reading USRA gon 23019 loaded with Reading steel containers. I can send it you and anyone else that is interested. I'm thinking Walthers at one time or another sold these containers for use in their USRA gons.
Tom Houle



On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, richtownsend@netscape.net wrote:

I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading
RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for it.
My research on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was known for
anthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea of a coal
load, and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale pretzels from
thin wire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be very realistic.
So I am asking the collective brain of this list for suggestions on
what to load in this car. Anyone?


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Re: Stock car reloading

Steve SANDIFER
 

You missed some of the thread which stated that updating Waybills was common.

What I do know comes from actual "feeding station" records. Looking at 281 cars loads at Purcell, OK, in Aug-Sept 1939, http://atsfrr.net/resources/Sandifer/Clinics/Stk/Purcell.htm

82 foreign cars were unloaded at Purcell and 51 of those were sent home empty as the stock was transferred to ATSF cars. In at least one case, two TNO cars of sheep were reloaded into one double deck ATSF car. In another case, a TNO car was unloaded and the stock moved to ATSF, but they evidently ran out of ATSF cars or needed to forward the TNO to a specific place so that a later shipment went out in the TNO car.


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----- Original Message -----
From: Schuyler Larrabee
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Stock car reloading



Earlier in this thread, someone said that we'd discussed this and had
determined that the usual procedure was to transfer stock car loads to a
home road car, and send the off-line car back home empty.

That's odd, because my recollection was that at the conclusion of that
thread, which I followed to the end because I'm interested in freight car
movements more than interested in stock particularly, we had come to the
opposite conclusion: As Greg says below, that the stock were moved out of
the car, fed and watered and rested, and meanwhile the car was cleaned and
new bedding provided, after which the stock were reloaded into the SAME car
and sent onwards.

Schuyler

Changing cars in route for stock doesn't make sense to me as you would have
to create a completely new waybill for the move. This would be an agents
nightmare. I would think the stock would be loaded right back into the same
car once it was cleaned and serviced. We may not see stock as precious
cargo but the consignee sure would and certainly the railroads did until a
point in time.

Greg

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

In a message dated 12/31/2011 2:53:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net <mailto:steve.sandifer%40sbcglobal.net>
writes:

I think it was typical to transfer stock to a home road car if they were
available. There is nothing on the paperwork to indicate special
instructions.
______________
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)
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX
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From: Aley, Jeff A
To: _STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:_STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> _
(mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> )
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Stock car reloading

Hi Steve,

Is it likely that the operation that you describe (stock in foreign cars
transloaded to home-road cars) was due to a special car service order? Or is

it more likely that what you describe was "typical"?

Regards,

-Jeff

From: _STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:_STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> _
(mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> )
[mailto:_STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:_STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> _
(mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> ) ] On Behalf
Of Steve
Sandifer
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(mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> )
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Stock car reloading

The only detailed information I have on shipping out sheep after resting
comes from 1939, Purcell, OK.
_http://atsfrr.net/resources/Sandifer/Clinics/Stk/Purcell.htm_
(http://atsfrr.net/resources/Sandifer/Clinics/Stk/Purcell.htm)

Normally stock was reloaded into the same car they arrived in. The major
exception was stock that arrived in foreign cars. 82 foreign cars were
unloaded at Purcell and 51 of those were sent home empty as the stock was
transferred to ATSF cars. In at least one case, two TNO cars of sheep were
reloaded into one double deck ATSF car. In another case, a TNO car was
unloaded
and the stock moved to ATSF, but they evidently ran out of ATSF cars or
needed to forward the TNO to a specific place so that a later shipment went
out
in the TNO car.

Railroad Loads in Loads out
ATSF 199 250
ESLJ 1 0
MP 4 4
PRR 1 1
SP 29 9
TNO 29 9
TP 18 8

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)
<mailto:steve.sandifer%40sbcglobal.net>
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX
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From: Anthony Thompson
To: _STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:_STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> _
(mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> )
<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:11 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Stock car reloading

Don Valentine wrote:
> Your comment raises and interesting point, Bruce, which I have not
> considered before. The rules for unloading and resting livestock are
> fairly well known but I do not recall having seen anything on one
> aspect of such mocvements. Is there anything that dictates what cars
> the stock must be reloaded into??? In this case, could the CN stock
> car be unloaded for a rest stop, returned home empty and the stock
> be reloaded into another stock car to continue their trip????

We've been told in previous discussions that it was very COMMON
to reload stock into the cars of the home road doing the resting, and
send the foreign empties home. Either way, the reloading cars had to
be well CLEANED and with fresh bedding. I would think this might be
especially commonplace with Canadian empties in the U.S., unless there
was a local car shortage.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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Tank Car Kit Quest

David
 

Does anyone make a plastic or resin kit in HO for a 10,000 gallon vertical course tank car? Not looking for brass or smaller capacity tanks.

David Thompson


Re: WILSON REEFERS

jerryglow2
 

The Wilson set I did was for a 36' car. The scheme was used on 40' cars
as well. I will try to dig up some pics on them for you

Jerry

On 1/1/2012 3:03 PM, Bob McCarthy wrote:
Jerry,and Bill,

Happy New Year!

Have forwarded the WILSON Reefer artwork to Bill for future
reference.

Since, Bill is going to have the ART fishbellly underframe ready
shortly for the 40' ART car. we need images of the WILSON to determine
what we need to do produce these cars in S.

Thanks,


Milling in Transit was Stock car reloading

earlyrail
 


It would be my understanding that once the car number was changed on a
revenue move would be viewed as complete; moving the same commodity on another
car would constitute a new revenue move, thus a new waybill to move the
commodity. Suspending the waybill at that point doesn't seem to make sense.
This is very much like "milling in transit" (in reverse) with the grain
shipments you drop off grain~ reload flour~ same car, same waybill, simply a
commodity exchange. Key here is same car ~ same waybill... AND this intend
was specified ON THE ORIGINAL waybill prior to arrival at destination. This
way the revenue stream is all very well understood in the billing. Remember
in our era much of the commodities moving were doing so over bridge routes
and revenue sharing was involved so the more transparent the intend the
better for all.

Greg Martin
I have to call on this.

Grain milling in transit did NOT require reshipment in the same car.
It did require the new waybill to reference to original way bill(s) for the continuing load. Several inbound waybills could be used for the outbound load. They were looking a quantity at that point.

I'll look and provide hard copy reference later.

Howard Garner
modeling 1905 in Granger country


Re: Reading USRA Gondola Load

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, richtownsend@netscape.net wrote:

I have a Walthers USRA gondola painted and lettered for the Reading
RR. I'm trying to come up with a suitable and interesting load for
it. My research on Reading, PA disclosed that the city is or was
known for anthracite coal and for pretzels. I don't like the idea
of a coal load, and while I am confident I could fashion HO scale
pretzels from thin wire, I don't think a load of pretzels would be
very realistic. So I am asking the collective brain of this list
for suggestions on what to load in this car. Anyone?
Richard, I agree with Bruce; steel products would be a common load in
Reading mill gons. However, I'm attaching a photo which shows a
ductwork load that would certainly be interesting and different. If
you decide to model it, be sure to let us see photos of the finished
product. Note the Taylor trucks on the gon. Photo by Col. Chet
McCoid from Bob's Photo Service, Providence, RI 12/57.

All the best in the new year,

Richard Hendrickson



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PRR class XL modeling project on the PRRPro Group

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

I wanted to let you know that today is the start of the PRR Project
(PRRPro) group's PRR XL class modeling project.

PRRPro is a Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PRRPro) devoted
to modeling aspects of the PRR as group projects. This is a co-op type
effort where contributions are welcome from any group members, rather
than being a "follow-the-leader" modeling seminar.

The XL project will cover the XL boxcar in all its forms, as well as the
RF reefer and KF stock car. Additionally since many of these cars were
adapted for MOW/Company service, these models will be covered as well.
All scales are welcome!

Regards
Bruce Smith, Auburn, AL

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