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Re: Digest Number 7177

Brian Termunde
 

Re: [SPAM][STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad
Posted by: "Bruce Brantner" sfcoyote_2000@yahoo.com sfcoyote_2000
Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:33 am (PST)


<snip> The LS&BC club had some decals made up for the railroad rolling stock.



A number of years ago I picked up an Normal Scale Box lettered LS&BC. I figured that it was at least somewhat bogus, but figured it was worth the novelty of it. Not sure if it was individual letters or a decal set. Would you know if the decal done in N too?


Take Care,

Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT



"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


B & O brown weathering

Robert kirkham
 

I'm looking at a number of models painted in B & O's brown freight car colour and wanting a few colour shots that will help with weathering. So far I've looked at Delano shots and have photos of B & O 275704 and another of B & O 270117. Wondering whether anyone can point me to other cars in this earlier freight car colour?

And while I'm at it, wondering what others have done to weather these cars. I'm thinking that in addition to adding grime, these cars might benefit from addition of some other similar browns. But those are only starting ideas, and if any of you have tackled this challenge, I'd appreciate hearing how you went at it.

Rob Kirkham


Re: Cocoa Beach Prototype Rails 2012

mike brock <brockm@...>
 

Doug Harding says:

Weather report was for 32 in Orlando yesterday. Was 64 in Iowa today.
Perhaps so...but the 32 occurred at 5AM in Orlando...normally 5 or 6� cooler in the winter than the beach. The high today [ Thursday ] was 67, it will be 72 on Friday and 75 on Sat. 76 on Sunday.

Mike Brock
Cocoa Beach unofficial weatherman


Cocoa Beach/Robertos

m repka
 

Good place, good Cuban menu, getting to be our favorite, three years now! Mike


Re: Cocoa Beach Prototype Rails 2012

jerryglow2
 

The 32 was the low - it was high 50s Wed, mid 60s today and is expected to be in the 70s over the weekend.

Jerry Glow
remembering the last few years....

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@...> wrote:

Weather report was for 32 in Orlando yesterday. Was 64 in Iowa today. Seems
like that happens each time I attend. Maybe I'm glad I stayed home this
yearJ Looking forward to reports on happenings and freight cars.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org





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Re: La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

xv_corps
 

Former Illinois Central employee Chet French commented that LS&BC's tank cars were, for a time anyway, in service between the Mathiessen & Hegeler Zinc works in LaSalle, Ill, and Keystone Wire in Peoria. The LS&BC handed the cars off to the Illinois Central at Midway (just north of LaSalle). The IC took the shipment to El Paso about 30-35 miles to the south. The IC turned it over to the TP&W which then took it over to East Peoria. I'd guess (but don't know for sure) that the P&PU made the set out at Keystone. Check here for photos of the B's rolling stock: http://icrr.tripod.com/id24.html

I spoke to a guy in the LaSalle area about two years ago who was familiar with Mathiessen & Hegeler. Knowing of my interest in railroading he commented that M&H brought in zinc from Mineral Point, Wis., off the C&NW. The Northwestern interchanged with the LS&BC west and north of LaSalle. Apparently sulfuric acid is a byproduct of the zinc smelting process, and M&H shipped the acid out by rail. The reason M&H located in LaSalle circa late-19th/early-20th Century? At the time many of the coal mines in the vicinity of LaSalle were still operating, and it was more economical to move the zinc a couple hundred miles than it was all of the coal needed to fire the plant...or so the story was told to me.

Brad Hanner

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From: Bruce Brantner <sfcoyote_2000@...>
To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [SPAM][STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

The LS&BC Railroad also had several tank cars; four that I have been able to account for.  Unfortunately the tank cars were being used as stationary storage units when I photo graphed them, as a result they did not have trucks or couplers on them.  Members of the LS&BC model railroad club have found written evidence that the LS&BC did have a few home road covered hoppers, but I have not been able to find a photo.  The LS&BC club had some decals made up for the railroad rolling stock.  I have a few sets left for anyone that might be interested.  Contact me at brucebrantner@...


Bruce R. Brantner, Sr.
Coyote  Trails  R R


Re: Cocoa Beach Prototype Rails 2012

Douglas Harding
 

Weather report was for 32 in Orlando yesterday. Was 64 in Iowa today. Seems
like that happens each time I attend. Maybe I'm glad I stayed home this
yearJ Looking forward to reports on happenings and freight cars.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: NYC boxcar decals

Benjamin Hom
 

Tim O'Connor wrote in response to Tom Dill:
"Your best source for NYC is CDS Dry Transfers --
<<snip>>

Be advised that the C-D-S line recently changed hands.  According to Terry
Link's website at TMR Distributing, the new owners have not resumed printing ,
so you ight have to hunt for some sets.  Here's a link to what TMR Distributing
has in stock: 
http://www.tmrdistributing.com/CDS-MZ.htm#nyc


Ben Hom


CNJ Bethlehem Steel gondolas

Tangent Scale Models
 

Does anyone on list or off have any slides or negatives of CNJ 86000-86999 and/or CNJ/CRP 1001-2000??

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models


LS&BC

Gary Roe
 

Group,

Just happened to be going thru some old RMC magazines this evening, and came
across a short article on the LS&BC by Jim Boyd in the July 1972 issue.

Most pictures are of the motive power; but there are halfway decent shots of
box cars 1103 and 1105.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


Re: La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

Ray Breyer
 

Hi Marcelo,


Copyright. I have NO idea where any of my LS&BC photos came from, and I don't wanna step on toes! None are good digital copies by any stretch, but you get the idea!

 
Regards,

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


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From: Marcelo Lordeiro <mrcustom@osite.com.br>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

Ray , I would like to see the photos too, trens@mrcustom.com.br .

I believe that some list members would like also to see the photos , at least as curiosity why not add to the photo section ?

My best

Marcelo Lordeiro


From: Ray Breyer
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:53 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad


 
Hi Bruce,

I have photos of at least one of their covered hoppers, and two or three of their tank cars (as well as a few of the boxcars AFTER 1000 and 1001).

I'll pass them along off-list tonight, once I get home from work.
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


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From: Bruce Brantner <sfcoyote_2000@yahoo.com>
To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [SPAM][STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

The LS&BC Railroad also had several tank cars; four that I have been able to account for.  Unfortunately the tank cars were being used as stationary storage units when I photo graphed them, as a result they did not have trucks or couplers on them.  Members of the LS&BC model railroad club have found written evidence that the LS&BC did have a few home road covered hoppers, but I have not been able to find a photo.  The LS&BC club had some decals made up for the railroad rolling stock.  I have a few sets left for anyone that might be interested.  Contact me at brucebrantner@sbcglobal.net.


Bruce R. Brantner, Sr.
Coyote  Trails  R R

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Cocoa Beach Prototype Rails 2012

Greg Martin
 

They're here...

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean


Cocoa Beach Prototype Rails 2012

Greg Martin
 

Their here...

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean


Savannah 2012

seaboard_1966
 

The Savannah RPM is scheduled for March 23-24 at the Port Wentworth Community Center. The meet features the usual clinics, model displays and brotherhood of a bunch of like minded folks getting together for a good time.

Cost is $20.00 for the 2 days of activities. There is NO one day attendance fee.
We are currently working on the schedule for the meet and this information will be sent along as it becomes available.

Denis Blake
Savannah RPM
Central Ohio RPM

http://www.hansmanns.org/meet/

http://s379.photobucket.com/albums/oo239/dti_nut/2011%20Marion%20RPM/

http://www.facebook.com/pages/manage/#!/pages/Central-Ohio-Prototype-Modelers-Meet/326645470797

http://s1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/salguy1/?start=all


Re: La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

Ray Breyer
 

Black and white, according to the photos I have.

;-)

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


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From: "SUVCWORR@aol.com" <SUVCWORR@aol.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad


What was the color of the PS-1 cars?

Rich Orr





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Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad


Hi Bruce,



I have photos of at least one of their covered hoppers, and two or three of

their tank cars (as well as a few of the boxcars AFTER 1000 and 1001).



I'll pass them along off-list tonight, once I get home from work.

Regards,

Ray Breyer

Elgin, IL





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From: Bruce Brantner <sfcoyote_2000@yahoo.com>

To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 11:33 AM

Subject: Re: [SPAM][STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad



The LS&BC Railroad also had several tank cars; four that I have been able to

account for.  Unfortunately the tank cars were being used as stationary storage

units when I photo graphed them, as a result they did not have trucks or

couplers on them.  Members of the LS&BC model railroad club have found written

evidence that the LS&BC did have a few home road covered hoppers, but I have not

been able to find a photo.  The LS&BC club had some decals made up for the

railroad rolling stock.  I have a few sets left for anyone that might be

interested.  Contact me at brucebrantner@sbcglobal.net.





Bruce R. Brantner, Sr.

Coyote  Trails  R R



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Re: Trucks under PS 50' Boxcars in the early '50s

Tim O'Connor
 

The two most popular 50 ton freight car trucks in the 1950's were
the ASF A-3 ride control (Kato and others), and the Barber S-2-A
(Branchline and others).

Scott is right the ASF A-3 seems more common on PS1's but here are
a few examples of Barbers seen in builder photos: C&EI 66847, C&NW 7
(riveted), COPR 4013, LV 62000, MILW 29000, MILW 30078/52001 (roller
bearing), MP 39202/82739 (roller bearing), MP 81882/82345, RI 5847.

Tim O'Connor

Which would be more common in the 1952-58 for trucks under PS 50' Boxcars, 50 ton or 100 ton?
American Steel Foundry's model A-3 "Ride Control" plain bearing truck was Pullman's favorite in the '50s. For PS-1 boxcars, you'd want the 50-ton version, which is made by several suppliers. PS-2 covered hoppers used the 70-ton version. 100-ton trucks were rare before 1963.

Roller bearing trucks increased in popularity during the '50s, but plain bearings were still found under the majority of new boxcars until the early '60s.

Scott Chatfield


Re: NYC boxcar decals

Tim O'Connor
 

am looking for some white NYC boxcar decals for era 1945 to 1955.
Is for one of the 1948 built PS-1's, but hope that any set for boxcars
would be similar. Have not been able to locate any produced. Please
respond off list if you have a set for sale. thanks, Tom Dill

Tom

Your best source for NYC is CDS Dry Transfers --

97 NYC 40' steel boxcar Pacemaker 1940
98 NYC 40' PS1 all white 1951
164 NYC 40' steel boxcar Pacemaker 1951
165 NYC 40' steel boxcars 1956 era
395 NYC 40' PS1 Pacemaker 1954
396 NYC 40' AAR Pacemaker 1958
457 PMcK&Y 40' USRA SS rebuilt 1934
458 P&LE 40' steel boxcar 1949
459 NYC 40' steel boxcar 1948 all white
531 NYC 40' USRA SS boxcar 1941
755 B&A 40' USRA steel boxcar 1930's
756 CCC&StL 40' USRA steel boxcar 1930's
757 NYC 40' USRA steel boxcar 1930's
758 NYC 40' USRA steel boxcar 1930's
759 B&A 40' USRA steel boxcar 1940
760 NYC 40' USRA steel boxcar 1939
761 NYC 40' USRA steel boxcar 1952
762 P&LE 40' USRA steel box ext height 1939
763 NYC 40' USRA steel box ext height 1948
769 NYC 40' USRA DD steel box ext height 1952
770 MC 40' USRA DD steel box 1934

Tim O'Connor


Re: La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

Tim O'Connor
 

The subject of LS&BC was discussed at length last year on MFCL. It
appears the stories of "theft" are exaggerated. LS&BC did purchase a
large number of cars from the PC, but PC just kept sending them more
and more cars... LS&BC asked, how could they steal things that were
sent to them? Anyway it eventually got straightened out, and LS&BC
stayed around longer than PC did. :-)

Tim O'Connor


And after the time frame of this list there are the 277 box cars (PS-1)
"stolen" from the PC ;-).
Regards,
Bob Witt


old unidentified models album

D. Scott Chatfield
 

I added a photo album a couple months ago for such questions. Right now
I only have a B&O battleship gon in there. It has metal sides and a wood
floor. Any ideas?

The album is titled "Old Models" in the photos section:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/754791512/pic/list

I assume anyone can post to the folder. Perhaps Clark can try posting
his tank car there and we'll find out.

Scott Chatfield


Re: La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

SUVCWORR@...
 

What was the color of the PS-1 cars?

Rich Orr

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To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad


Hi Bruce,



I have photos of at least one of their covered hoppers, and two or three of

their tank cars (as well as a few of the boxcars AFTER 1000 and 1001).



I'll pass them along off-list tonight, once I get home from work.

Regards,

Ray Breyer

Elgin, IL





________________________________

From: Bruce Brantner <sfcoyote_2000@yahoo.com>

To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 11:33 AM

Subject: Re: [SPAM][STMFC] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad



The LS&BC Railroad also had several tank cars; four that I have been able to

account for. Unfortunately the tank cars were being used as stationary storage

units when I photo graphed them, as a result they did not have trucks or

couplers on them. Members of the LS&BC model railroad club have found written

evidence that the LS&BC did have a few home road covered hoppers, but I have not

been able to find a photo. The LS&BC club had some decals made up for the

railroad rolling stock. I have a few sets left for anyone that might be

interested. Contact me at brucebrantner@sbcglobal.net.





Bruce R. Brantner, Sr.

Coyote Trails R R











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