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Re: Buford Wyoming

Douglas Harding
 

I want to know what golf has to do with the UP, Sherman Hill, or for that
matter the town of Buford? It would appear that being the sole owner of such
a spread (includes 10 acres) between I-80 and the UP main would be
appealing. You could even put in a golf course, if you need one. After all
the tourists would flock to such a Mecca, causing the coffers of the local
convenience store to overflow. Just those looking for evidence of N&W
hoppers (remains?) should double gasoline sales.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Acrylic Washes for Weathering

Charles Hostetler <cesicjh@...>
 

I want to thank Richard Hendrickson and Tony Thompson for the information they presented on freight car weathering at the 2012 Prototype Rails. I know I've felt that after all of the measuring and precision we strive for, and the time we invest in assembling and lettering the basic model, that some "potentially out of control" weathering process seems like a big risk.

Well after reviewing my notes from the clinic, I decided to just jump in and try the acrylic wash technique. Even as a beginner, I felt like I had control of the process, and I liked the result:

http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/03/erie-28000-28899-offset-twin-hopper.html

My first try was on an ordinary car with no particular merits, but I'm really encouraged to keep experimenting with weathering. It really does make a strong visual difference.

Thanks again,

Charles Hostetler
Goshen, IN


Re: Lumber Loads

Ken Roth
 

Well gang, as usual there are no shortages of opinion on color :-) To add to the fray, I've uploaded five pictures taken in Nov. 2009 at the last steam-powered sawmill in the US, the Hull Oakes Lumber Co. near Alpine, Oregon (a wonderful place to visit, a working museum of sorts). This mill has changed very little since the 1940's and cuts Douglas Fir for very large special orders. I doubt Douglas Fir has changed color much since our era, so take your best shot. This wood is mostly right off the green chain except for one shot that contains a stack that has obviously sat out in the weather for awhile. The weather was light overcast and had rained recently.

Ken Roth


Re: Buford Wyoming

Charles Hladik
 

OK y'all, if all my friends, the 2 I had before I started this note, and
99,999 other folks will send me a dollar each, I'll buy Buford and move
there!!! Won't even change the name.
Chuck Hladik
currently of Rustburg, VA

In a message dated 3/14/2012 7:25:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
harperandbrown@gmail.com writes:




I thought the same.
Jared Harper
Athens, GA

--- In _STMFC@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com) , "Aley, Jeff
A" <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

I didn't understand this article. I thought the sole resident of Buford
was Bruce Smith.

Regards,

-Jeff

P.S. Yeah, it's off-topic. But we're poking fun at the Listowner, so
it's okay.


From: _STMFC@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com)
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and Barb Hile
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58 AM
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Subject: [STMFC] Buford Wyoming



Hey Mike,

Did you see where you can buy the whole town of Buford and relocate to
Sherman Hill? :>)

_http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/entire-town-buford-wyoming-sale-sole-resident-183155529.html_
(http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/entire-town-buford-wyoming-sale-sole-resident-183155529.html)

Steve Hile



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Lumber Doors

Jim Sabol
 

The lumber doors on the ends of Milwaukee and some other road box cars was neither for inserting or withdrawing lumber. Sticks of greater length than 28 or so feet in 40 foot cars were loaded through the regular door, poked out the lumber door just far enough, then backed into the car and placed on the sticks already loaded flush against the inner car end. (A “stick” is one piece of dimension lumber anywhere from a 1 x 2 to 24” square cants, although timbers of a diameter larger than the end door would not usually be loaded into box cars.) Likewise, to unload lumber from inside a box car, the far end of the top stick would be stuck out of the lumber door just far enough for the inner end to clear the side door, and out the side door she would go. One stick at a time. At about 50 cents or so an hour. With no OSHA. Jim here.

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Re: Buford Wyoming

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Silly me! I thought that the Moderate Jail was in Buford, Wyoming! Maybe I can look out the window at those UP freight trains running as often as streetcars? And daydream of them being pulled by Big Boys?

:)

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Aley, Jeff A" <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

I didn't understand this article. I thought the sole resident of Buford was Bruce Smith.

Regards,

-Jeff

P.S. Yeah, it's off-topic. But we're poking fun at the Listowner, so it's okay.


From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Buford Wyoming



Hey Mike,

Did you see where you can buy the whole town of Buford and relocate to
Sherman Hill? :>)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/entire-town-buford-wyoming-sale-sole-resident-183155529.html

Steve Hile



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Re: B&O Wagon Top Box Cars

Benjamin Hom
 

Joel Holmes wrote:
"The B&O placed their first Wagon Top Box Cars into service in 1915."

Completely untrue.  Who is telling you this folklore?  Do not confuse the
original build dates of the single M-13 or the M-15 subclass double-sheathed
boxcars with the dates they were rebuilt into steel cars (first M-15 conversion
was July 1934).  See RP Cyc Volume 9 for more information.


Ben Hom


Re: Buford Wyoming

SUVCWORR@...
 

Umm Little America and Cheyene are 283 miles apart. That is going to be some kind of par for that course.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Balryan <balryan@aol.com>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 14, 2012 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Buford Wyoming



Mike,
You don't have to go to Denver to golf there is some what of a golf course
around Little America in Cheyenne. Not sure on the par.
Ryan Ballard






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Tank Car Id

J.A. Phillips
 

All-

Can anyone Id this tank car behind SPS 701 at Paradise, Montana, in 1944? Bit of a stretch, but...

http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/rvnjpeg_img_rec.php?objno=RVN07837

Any help appreciated,
John Phillips
Seattle


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B&O Wagon Top Box Cars

joeloh3 <lehighvalley@...>
 

Hi All, The B&O placed their first Wagon Top Box Cars into service in 1915. Does anyone know what type of trucks were under the car? They could have been Arch Bar, Andrews, Bettendorf, or some other style. Thank you in advance for any information you may have. Joel Holmes


Re: B&O Wagon Top Decals

John H <sprinthag@...>
 

Yes you are. To the right of the B&O Logo is "Baltimore & Ohio Wagontop Box Cars. Below that is ">" and the words "Find out more".
Click the FOM wprds and you wil get directly to the B&O set. Nice looking set BTW.

John Hagen

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Brian Carlson wrote:
Go here

http://www.speedwitch.com/index.htm
Well, the logo for the B&O decals is on the home page, but they are
NOT included on the decals page, only the Erie rebuilds. Am I missing
something?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Buford Wyoming

Jack Mullen
 

But then the denizens of this list would be faced with spending early January in Wyoming.

Cow Chip Beach PMM anyone?

Jack Mullen

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:

Steve Hile writes:

"Did you see where you can buy the whole town of Buford and relocate to
Sherman Hill? :>)"

Very tempting. There are likely tons of old cinders waiting there for me to
add to my collection. The only real problem is that the local golf course is
in Denver.

Mike Brock


Re: Tank Car Chat

atsfnut <michaelEGross@...>
 

Thank you, Richard, for that further clarification.

Michael

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

On Mar 13, 2012, at 3:03 PM, atsfnut wrote:

Gentlemen,

There has been a lot of talk lately about p2K tank car railings,
which begs the question, who makes the most authentic type 21 tank
car: p2K, Intermountain, or Red Caboose? Is there a consensus about
this?
Michael, they're all different. The Proto 2000 models represent AC&F
Type 21s built from 1921 (actually, some a bit earlier) through ca.
1929. The Intermountain models represent AC&F Type 27s built from
1927 until World War II. The Red Caboose model represents an AC&F
10k gal. welded ICC-103 built from ca. 1948 through the early '50s.
Quality and detail varies (the underframes on the Intermountain
models are a bit lame), but all are prototypically accurate.

Richard Hendrickson



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Re: B&O Wagon Top Decals

David Sieber
 

You can either work through via the Decals tab on the Home Page, then down to the last set on the Decals page, or just go to http://www.speedwitch.com/Decals/d130.htm
HTH, Dave Sieber, Reno NV


Re: Combo door 40' box cars NP GN CB&Q

Dave Sarther
 

List members,

Here is an update and clarification on the location of the Combo Door Car parts photos. Chad's photos of the new 5/5/5 doors and reinforced side sill for the NP combo door cars are on this STMFC site in the "Box Car Doors Photo Album" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/694231325/pic/list The photo on the front of the particular album to search is of CGW 8274 Superior welded door. The Photo Album is located on the bottom of the second page in the bottom right hand corner, last album. Note these 5/5/5 doors are the correct doors for the NP 40' #3000-3399 and #8000-9250 series cars as previously noted.

Later, Dave

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "DaveS" <sartherdj@...> wrote:






Group,

The photos for the doors needed for the NP #3000-3399 Combo Door Cars have been posted on the STMFC site. The photo of the newly cast doors and side sill is shown in the Chad Boas Photo Section at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/recent/1321902876/view The photo shows the correct 5/5/5 sliding door needed for this series XM, the correct size plug door and the reinforced side sill placed onto the side of an undecorated Intermountain kit #40499. The Intermountain PS kit is a great starting point for this conversion to a #3000-3399 series XM. This kit has the correct "bowtie" roof, the correct PS ends and the welded steel sides. Note that this car was built by Pullman Standard and is not quite the same as the cars in the Matt Sugerman NP Photo Section as Matt's cars are from the #8000-9250 series of XM cars. The #8000-9250 XM's were built by the NP at their Brainerd Shops.

A nice photo of XM #3202 can be found in the NP TellTale Collection Photo Files at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NPTellTale/photos/album/810237290/pic/993136988/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc . (NP TellTale Collection, Photo Album, posted Feb. 26, 2012, photo #3/415) Other photos of the #3000-3399 series XM's can be located in the RR Picture Archives at www.rrpicturesarchives.net. There are some nice photos of XM's from the #8000-9250 series cars on the Fallen Flags site at www.rr-fallenflags.org and RR Picture Archives at www.RRPictureArchives.net And finally, there are some additional photos of the #8000 + series cars in Todd Sullivan's NP Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Cars p.43
Car Diagrams and Car Roster Information can be located on the (Northern Pacific Railway Historic Association) NPRHA Research site at www.nprha.org

Hope this information is helpful for those interested in getting some of these cars added to their freight car rosters.
Later, Dave S.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Chad" <chadboas@> wrote:

Clark,
Microscale, MC-4109 for the NP 40' combo door. 1958-70
Chad Boas

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, cepropst@ wrote:

What about decals for the cars?
Clark Propst


Re: B&O Wagon Top Decals

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Brian Carlson wrote:
Go here

http://www.speedwitch.com/index.htm
Well, the logo for the B&O decals is on the home page, but they are NOT included on the decals page, only the Erie rebuilds. Am I missing something?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: B&O Wagon Top Decals

Brian Carlson
 

Ed;

Go here

http://www.speedwitch.com/index.htm



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga, NY



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:07 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] B&O Wagon Top Decals






I have checked through the postings regarding the B&O Wagon Top
Decals. The only Decals that I could find were for the B&O Wagon
Top 2 Bay Covered Hopper decals by Mount Vernon.
Has anyone found good decals for the Wagon Top Box Car?

Ed Ursem


Re: Buford Wyoming

Jared Harper
 

I thought the same.
Jared Harper
Athens, GA

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Aley, Jeff A" <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

I didn't understand this article. I thought the sole resident of Buford was Bruce Smith.

Regards,

-Jeff

P.S. Yeah, it's off-topic. But we're poking fun at the Listowner, so it's okay.


From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Buford Wyoming



Hey Mike,

Did you see where you can buy the whole town of Buford and relocate to
Sherman Hill? :>)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/entire-town-buford-wyoming-sale-sole-resident-183155529.html

Steve Hile





Re: Buford Wyoming

Mikebrock
 

Jeff Aley...moideling the UP Kansas Div [ wherever that is ] and, therefore, not really conversant in matters associated with the UP He-man Mainline through WY...writes:

"I didn't understand this article. I thought the sole resident of Buford was Bruce Smith."

No, no. Bruce Smith is located at Bruceford...a few miles west [ I guess ] of Buford. He switches frt cars there [ when he isn't shorting out the entire RR ].

"P.S. Yeah, it's off-topic. But we're poking fun at the Listowner, so it's okay."

You mean this is a topic?

Mike Brock


Re: Buford Wyoming

Aley, Jeff A
 

I didn't understand this article. I thought the sole resident of Buford was Bruce Smith.

Regards,

-Jeff

P.S. Yeah, it's off-topic. But we're poking fun at the Listowner, so it's okay.


From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Buford Wyoming



Hey Mike,

Did you see where you can buy the whole town of Buford and relocate to
Sherman Hill? :>)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/entire-town-buford-wyoming-sale-sole-resident-183155529.html

Steve Hile

85061 - 85080 of 192619