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Re: ExactRail, MRH Podcast Interview

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

I wrote:
Note to self: DO NOT attempt t listen to any more MRH podcasts.
This was an unwarranted comment on my part, since the podcast I tried to listen to is actually on the ExactRail site, not the MRH site. It's a file that MRH supplied to ExactRail for their use. I apologize to MRH, and must add that I have occasionally listened to their podcasts before without problems.
After several list members chimed in that they had no problems, I rebooted my computer, checked that my internet router is working okay, and tried again. This time there were still several long pauses for "buffering," so the problem has not gone away for me.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: ExactRail, MRH Podcast Interview

Jim Hayes
 

I just listened to the whole thing with no problems at all.

Jim Hayes


On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Richard Brennan <brennan8@earthlink.net>wrote:

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At 02:01 PM 5/1/2012, Anthony Thompson wrote:
Probably not your fault, Blaine, but a very annoying podcast. It
stops every 15 seconds or so to "buffer" the download. These 10-or-so-
second interruptions soon got to me and I bailed. I have pretty fast
DSL so I'm not sure of the problem source. Note to self: DO NOT
attempt t listen to any more MRH podcasts.
Hmm... I just listened to the PodCast straight through;
No problems, Clear as could be...
<http://www.exactrail.com/exactrail-model-railroad-blog>
http://www.exactrail.com/exactrail-model-railroad-blog

As has been said: YMMV

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Richard Brennan
<somewhere between Budapest and Shenzhen>
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Re: ExactRail, MRH Podcast Interview

Jeff Shultz <jeff@...>
 

Tony, I took a look at the code on that page and the audio is stored on ExactRail's server. This is not the normal MRH podcast.

The address for the audio is
http://exactrail.com/skin/frontend/exactrail/desktop/audio/mrhpodcast-20120403.mp3

It downloaded fine to me, but I also have a 300mb/s internet connection.

--
Jeff Shultz
www.shultzinfosystems.com

Anthony Thompson <thompson@signaturepress.com> wrote:

Blaine Hadfield wrote:
Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine was interested in the backstory
behind our decision to be consumer-direct. My response is posted on
our blog at
www.exactrail.com. Because of the way my comments relate to tooling
and our direction to freight car models, it may be of interest to
many of you. I invite you to listen. It may be found at our website,
exactrail.com, under the blog tab.
Probably not your fault, Blaine, but a very annoying podcast. It
stops every 15 seconds or so to "buffer" the download. These 10-or-so-
second interruptions soon got to me and I bailed. I have pretty fast
DSL so I'm not sure of the problem source. Note to self: DO NOT
attempt t listen to any more MRH podcasts.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: ExactRail, MRH Podcast Interview

Richard Brennan <brennan8@...>
 

At 02:01 PM 5/1/2012, Anthony Thompson wrote:
Probably not your fault, Blaine, but a very annoying podcast. It
stops every 15 seconds or so to "buffer" the download. These 10-or-so-
second interruptions soon got to me and I bailed. I have pretty fast
DSL so I'm not sure of the problem source. Note to self: DO NOT
attempt t listen to any more MRH podcasts.
Hmm... I just listened to the PodCast straight through;
No problems, Clear as could be...
<http://www.exactrail.com/exactrail-model-railroad-blog>http://www.exactrail.com/exactrail-model-railroad-blog


As has been said: YMMV


--------------------
Richard Brennan
<somewhere between Budapest and Shenzhen>
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Re: ExactRail, MRH Podcast Interview

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Blaine Hadfield wrote:
Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine was interested in the backstory behind our decision to be consumer-direct. My response is posted on our blog at
www.exactrail.com. Because of the way my comments relate to tooling and our direction to freight car models, it may be of interest to many of you. I invite you to listen. It may be found at our website, exactrail.com, under the blog tab.
Probably not your fault, Blaine, but a very annoying podcast. It stops every 15 seconds or so to "buffer" the download. These 10-or-so- second interruptions soon got to me and I bailed. I have pretty fast DSL so I'm not sure of the problem source. Note to self: DO NOT attempt t listen to any more MRH podcasts.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


ExactRail, MRH Podcast Interview

Blaine
 

Group,

Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine was interested in the backstory behind our decision to be consumer-direct. My response is posted on our blog at
www.exactrail.com. Because of the way my comments relate to tooling and our direction to freight car models, it may be of interest to many of you. I invite you to listen. It may be found at our website, exactrail.com, under the blog tab.

Best regards,

Blaine Hadfield

Vice President, Product
ExactRail


Re: Subject Lines

Scott Pitzer
 

Don't get me started on Subject Lines. There's room for several words up there, so I wish people wouldn't stop with just "Some Guy's Name" as a Subject Line. If you've been corresponding with list member Joe Schmo but you accidentally deleted his info, try "Joe Schmo, please contact me again." If Joe Schmo has put out some freight car books in the past and then went dormant, how about "Any more books coming from Joe Schmo?" If Joe Schmo is in the hospital and might enjoy receiving cards and letters, there's "Joe Schmo having health problems." If noted freight car photographer Joe Schmo has died at age 99 in Anytown, Kansas, try "Photographer Joe Schmo, 1913-2012." But a lot of the time, all we get is "Joe Schmo" as the Subject Line. (Apologies in advance to any list members actually named Joe Schmo.)

And if you want to know the color scheme of C&WI caboose #11, try to pin it down more closely than "Paint Question."

Thanks! Cheers! Jolly Good! and all that,
Scott Pitzer


Re: It's not Shaving Cream...

Steve Vallee
 

Dear Group...

   Many, many THANKS to all who gave me answers I was looking for.

  Steve Vallee



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Re: It's not Shaving Cream...

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tom Birkett wrote:
Santa Fe Conditionaire cars made cool orange juice on the bottom
And bruised a lot of the fruit they didn't crush or burst. Idea didn't last long. I understand the potato versions were hard on the cargo too,

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: It's not Shaving Cream...

Tom Birkett <tnbirke@...>
 

Santa Fe Conditionaire cars made cool orange juice on the bottom

Tom Birkett



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
soolinehistory
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:13 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: It's not Shaving Cream...







--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve"
<stvvallee@...> wrote:

Dear Group...

Even though this subject is in the "Future"(1964)and doesn't exist on the
list, I wanted to see what the Group thought of it.

I found this item on page 70 of the November, 1964 issue of Model
Railroader Magazine:

After various experiments, U. S. Steel, working with the Pennsylvania RR.,
tried spraying cars in ore service with polyurethane. Thus far tests have
shown that these cars keep iron ore from freezing for 100 hours at
temperatures down to 5 degrees.


My questions are as follows:

a)...What other railroads, if any, tried this covering?
Better sneak this in before the sheriff notices the 1964 date. This may not
have been a successful use of urethane foam, but that didn't keep several
roads from applying it to the outside of Centerflow hoppers to make
insulated covered hoppers. The NP used theirs for shipping potatoes, which
only need to be kept from freezing. The Santa Fe also had some, although I
don't know what product they were intended for.

I can't find a prototype photo on the web, but Digital Fox has done custom
runs of the ATSF, NP, and BN repaints of the NP cars using Accurail 4600s.
See the BN cars here:

http://www.digitalfox.com/digitalfox/

Boy, freight cars sure will be getting ugly in the future.


Re: ADMIN: Spam and Manufacturer's Business Practices

Andy Harman
 

At 12:47 PM 5/1/2012 -0400, you wrote:

My concern is that many members on the STMFC own and possibly buy/sell
Sunshine kits. Buyers of Sunshine kits need to be aware that Sunshine does
not support after market purchases...even if they do have parts.
I do have a few unbuilt Sunshine kits that I probably will never use and that I would like to sell. I guess I should include this caveat in my auction listing.....

Andy


Re: It's not Shaving Cream...

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <stvvallee@...> wrote:

Dear Group...

Even though this subject is in the "Future"(1964)and doesn't exist on the list, I wanted to see what the Group thought of it.

I found this item on page 70 of the November, 1964 issue of Model Railroader Magazine:
After various experiments, U. S. Steel, working with the Pennsylvania RR., tried spraying cars in ore service with polyurethane. Thus far tests have shown that these cars keep iron ore from freezing for 100 hours at temperatures down to 5 degrees.


My questions are as follows:

a)...What other railroads, if any, tried this covering?

Better sneak this in before the sheriff notices the 1964 date. This may not have been a successful use of urethane foam, but that didn't keep several roads from applying it to the outside of Centerflow hoppers to make insulated covered hoppers. The NP used theirs for shipping potatoes, which only need to be kept from freezing. The Santa Fe also had some, although I don't know what product they were intended for.

I can't find a prototype photo on the web, but Digital Fox has done custom runs of the ATSF, NP, and BN repaints of the NP cars using Accurail 4600s. See the BN cars here:

http://www.digitalfox.com/digitalfox/

Boy, freight cars sure will be getting ugly in the future.


ADMIN: Spam and Manufacturer's Business Practices

Mikebrock
 

There are several issues that need to be addressed by the STMFC Management.

1. As several members have noted, there has been a significant increase in the spammer activity as seen on the STMFC. The vast majority of these spam messages are associated with Yahoo accounts and the source is a legitimate member of the STMFC. The policy of the STMFC is to notify the owner of the address of the problem and to place the member in Moderate Jail. This action will stop additional messages from being posted on the STMFC but, regretfully, the STMFC mgt may continue to receive moderate messages from the offending account until it is fixed. STMFC mgt will remove the offending member if the amount of activity warrants such action. With that in mind, I would suggest to the members that you check your anti virus software.

2. Barry Bennett, among others, is not satisfied with a vendor/manufacturer's operation.

As many members are aware...thankfully...the group's rules state "Criticism of a manufacturer's business
practices is, however, not within the scope of the group."

However, note the additional group rule:

"...all
admin, security, or "policing" functions will be conducted only by myself or
my representatives."

IOW, members are not free to criticize a manufacturer's business practices. STMFC mgt definitely does NOT want to referee a discussion regarding the business practices of a vendor/manufacturer. However, the group's management does reserve the right and, in fact, has the responsibility to issue warnings about any practice that a vendor/manufacturer may impose that is detrimental to the members. Management is very aware that this function should be only rarely exercised and conclusive evidence must be present for it to do so.

Given the above, if a member believes a vendor/manufacturer is exercising a business practice that the member believes to be detrimental to the members, this information should be sent to myself or my assistant at:

STMFC-owner@yahoogroups.com

3. In keeping with the procedure indicated above, STMFC mgt has received the following information that it feels warrants being passed to the members.

"At the last Prototype Rails, I and others purchased Sunshine kits. [ note that Sunshine was not present...STMFC mgt ]. One of my five later proved to be missing the decal sheet. I sent the certificate and $3 to Sunshine asking for another decal sheet. I said in the letter that if the decals would cost more, please so inform me. After eight weeks passed, I received my check back voided, and a three paragraph hand-written but unsigned letter saying that Sunshine would not support "aftermarket" customers because of inability to control the quality of kits which might have been looted of parts, and that my only recourse is to seek a refund from the seller."

Note that the buyer bought a kit...not a built model. Also, the buyer indicated that if Sunshine no longer had the decal in question that the buyer would have no complaint. And, in this case, the buyer was perfectly willing to pay for the decal and, apparently, it was still available.

My concern is that many members on the STMFC own and possibly buy/sell Sunshine kits. Buyers of Sunshine kits need to be aware that Sunshine does not support after market purchases...even if they do have parts.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Re: It's not Shaving Cream...

lytlemp
 

The following link may help answer some of your questions:

http://crcyc.railfan.net/model/harlos/har-woolies.html

In addition to other comments as to why this failed, the other problems with the "insulated" cars is when the load does freeze, not so much a question of if it will freeze, you can't heat the cars to thaw the load becasue of the isulation.

Mike

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <stvvallee@...> wrote:
Ore cars and hoppers covered with what looks like shaving cream may become a common sight if an experiment being tried by U. S. Steel is as successful as first attempts indicate.


Re: It's not Shaving Cream...

Bruce Smith
 

Steve,

a) Not sure if anyone else tried this
b) "Woolies" will be seen into the distant future of this list, on a railroad that will be called Conrail
c) This experiment will fail for several reasons. First, the reason this will be done. About the end of this list, iron ore from south america will be imported via philadelphia. This ore, coming from the south as it does, never freezes and is loaded into ore gons in philly, where, in the winter it melts snow that falls onto it, or simply freezes any water on it, making it difficult to unload the cars. Now, for the failure... insulating the sides of the car will keep the load warmer longer. The problem is how long. If the load sits for any time, say in a yard it will freeze and even if it does not, the top and bottom are still exposed as are the side ribs of the car... so while insulating the car helps keep the load thawed longer, it is not long enough.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

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On May 1, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Steve wrote:
After various experiments, U. S. Steel, working with the Pennsylvania RR., tried spraying cars in ore service with polyurethane. Thus far tests have shown that these cars keep iron ore from freezing for 100 hours at temperatures down to 5 degrees.


My questions are as follows:

a)...What other railroads, if any, tried this covering?
b)...How long did these tests last?
and c)...Why did it fail?

Many thanks in advance.

Steve Vallee



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It's not Shaving Cream...

Steve Vallee
 

Dear Group...

Even though this subject is in the "Future"(1964)and doesn't exist on the list, I wanted to see what the Group thought of it.

I found this item on page 70 of the November, 1964 issue of Model Railroader Magazine:


It's mot shaving cream. . .

Ore cars and hoppers covered with what looks like shaving cream may become a common sight if an experiment being tried by U. S. Steel is as successful as first attempts indicate.

one of the problems of moving iron ore in the winter is the low temperature, which freezes the moisture in the ore to the car side. this means maintaining thawing sheds where the cars and contends can be heated so the ore can be dumped---a slow and costly process which can cause damage to the cars. Many plants do not even attempt to move ore in the winter, but depend on stockpiles built up during the summer months.

After various experiments, U. S. Steel, working with the Pennsylvania RR., tried spraying cars in ore service with polyurethane. Thus far tests have shown that these cars keep iron ore from freezing for 100 hours at temperatures down to 5 degrees.


My questions are as follows:

a)...What other railroads, if any, tried this covering?
b)...How long did these tests last?
and c)...Why did it fail?

Many thanks in advance.

Steve Vallee


Re: dimensions of 4K gallon tank requested

Andy Miller
 

Andy,

I wish you great success. 4kg tank cars have long been absent from the HO freight car scene. I am sure if you spend great effort to build a great model, one will be produced in plastic within a month ;-)

I built one years ago using an IHC "Olde Time" tank car. But it did not help. There are still none available. I am sure you will put more effort into yours and perhaps that will do the trick.
For a photo of mine see:
http://steamerafreightcars.com/modeling/models/millera/ebax3064main.html

regards,

Andy Miler

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Carlson
To: Steam Era
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:58 PM
Subject: [STMFC] dimensions of 4K gallon tank requested



Hi,

I can't seem to find an on-line measurement for a 4000 gallon railroad tank car
tank. Anyone with answers for diameter and length? A typical tank is what I am
looking for, I am contemplating building a TetraEthyl tanker. Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
-Andy


Re: Shucks and pshaw

Brian Ehni <behni@...>
 

ALPS printers are finicky things. Mine worked just fine last time I used it.
This time (to just print black), not so much. I even broke out my backup
(new) printer, and got the same results. Both are MD-1000s. So I've just
reformatted the Mac it's attached to and am reloading everythingŠ


Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

From: <jerryglow@comcast.net>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:33 AM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Shucks and pshaw






I didn't expect so many positive messages about my decal efforts. I
appreciate the glowing responses. It's a cottage biz but also my way of
paying back the hobby esp kindered spirits the likes of whom roam this list.

I'm hoping today's attempt at printing some of my work will be successful
although I did have to eliminate those using cyan ink as that seems to be
where the porblem lies.

--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/









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Re: dimensions of 4K gallon tank requested

Andy Carlson
 

Thanks Ed (and others) for your help.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: dimensions of 4K gallon tank requested

Ed Hawkins
 

On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:

I can't seem to find an on-line measurement for a 4000 gallon
railroad tank car
tank. Anyone with answers for diameter and length? A typical tank is
what I am
looking for, I am contemplating building a TetraEthyl tanker. Thanks,
Andy,
ACF Type 27 4,000-gallon ICC-103 single compartment cars built from
1935 to 1946 typically had two courses and an inside tank diameter of
63 1/4". Tank length 23'-9". Dome size 48" x 11 3/4". Underframes were
28'-6 3/8" over end sills by 9'-3" wide. Truck center spacing was 18'-0
1/4". There was a small number of 4,000-gallon ICC 103A acid cars as
well.

A tank arrangement drawing used from 1936 to 1942 is available from the
ACF collection at the Museum of Transportation (dwg. no. 3145793).
Contact me Off-List if you have interest in this drawing.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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