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Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling Gould/TichyIMWX timeframe.

Bill Schneider
 

I’m going to say something that is perhaps long overdue...

Bill hits on a very valid point here. As he puts it, the efforts of authors like “Messers. Hawkins, Wider and Long”, Richard Hendrickson, and others through the support of Bob Schleicher and Rail Model Journal contributed a great deal to promote knowledge about both prototypes and available (or soon to be available) models of the same and went a VERY long way IMO in not only popularizing the movement, but (gasp!) showing modelers what was correct and what was... well... not so correct.

While RMJ might be an easy target for occasional lapses in editing or captions, the popularization of the RPM movement would be very much less developed without their efforts.

Bill Schneider
(who has yet to release a model in sync with an article about it!)

From: lnbill
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:25 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling Gould/TichyIMWX timeframe.


Another reason why I think the IMWX model had great impact was that it coincided w/Rail Model Journal's articles about the 1937 boxcar both on the real thing with the photo resources of the Messers. Hawkins, Wider and Long collection and modeling articles using the new kit. these articles helped to educate us how important this design was and how many there were.

Bill Welch

--- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Tom:

I am sure the Gould/Tichy kits were first. While their die work was/is at a very level, I would argue that the IMWX model kit had greater impact because they were available with accurate paint and stenciling. Conversely the Gould/Tichy kits with a few exception have never been well supported with such essentials as decals, leaving it up to the modeler to sort out completing the model. The few examples they supported with decals featured poor quality decals.

That is my observation at least.

Bill Welch

--- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, tyesac@ wrote:


Bill,

Which came first IMWX cars of the Gould (later Tichy) cars? I thought the Gould cars camme first.

Tom Casey


The seminal styrene kit I think it could be argued was the "Innovative Model Works" 1937 boxcar kit. When was this kit introduced. Does anyone have any good stories about the development of this model by Jerry Porter they can send me?






-----Original Message-----
From: lnbill <fgexbill@>
To: STMFC <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 11:39 am
Subject: [STMFC] History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling




As some of you will remember from posts I made in the fall of 2011, I want to put together materials to create a history of modeling freight cars more accurately and more prototypically. I now have some good materials about the early offerings of Al Westerfield and the materials that publicized the releases of Westrail and Dennis Storzek. F&C is putting some materials together for me and I will be talking w/Martin about Sunshine's initial offerings.

Here are somethings I need your help with.

Materials related to Roller Bearing models--instructions, ads, kit lists, etc. It would especially be helpful to know when they started advertising. Also photos of built-up models.

Materials related to the Rail Progress hopper kits. (Do I have the correct name for this line?) Again built up model photos would be appreciated.

It could be argued that two seminal articles related to how our niche in the hobby has developed were Dennis Storzek's article on 5 things to do to improve existing styrene freight car models. This appeared sometime in the 1980's. Can someone provide scans of this article?

Bill Clouser's articles on using rubber molds and polyester (was that the material?) to make copies of parts, components, etc. Not sure of the dates or how many articles there were. Ned scans of at least one of these.

Arguably Prototype Modeler magazine helped change the thinking and orientation for some of us. I would love to have scans of the cover of the first few issues of this.

The seminal styrene kit I think it could be argued was the "Innovative Model Works" 1937 boxcar kit. When was this kit introduced. Does anyone have any good stories about the development of this model by Jerry Porter they can send me?

Can anyone furnish me with info about the beginnings of McKean, Front Range, and C&BT, i.e. the people involved, initial offerings, and or course nicely built up models.

Anecdotes about these pioneering styrene efforts and the people involved would be appreciated.

One more item and this may start an argument. Do we know who night have first used the term "Prototype" to describe the approach to what we are doing, either specifically to modeling, or more generally to the model railroading hobby.

I am planning to talk about this history from the 1/87th scale perspective because that is what I know. Tentatively this will be a presentation at Naperville and Cocoa Beach and I will consider how to make the presentation available to others for them to do a presentation.

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727-470-9930
fgexbill@







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Re: Kadee's new generation of trucks

Andy Sperandeo
 

Marcelo,
I've polished hundreds of Kadee wheel treads, but I've retired from that now.
So long,
Andy


Re: Accurail 40' Steel Plug Door Refrigerator Car

Bill Welch
 

I confess I paint and decal everything so I do not pay attention to what manufacturers are issuing already painted and lettered. Accurail does have good representations of what they are doing and people can use their educated eyes to guide them.

Bill welch

--- In STMFC@..., Frank Greene <frgreene290@...> wrote:

Bill, Accurail's website shows the FGE car with a NEW -52 date and WFE
with a JAX -60 reweigh date, both in the Optic style letters.


On 5/9/2012 11:56 AM, lnbill wrote:
Ray

The Accurail Sliding door refrigerator car is correct for FGE, WFE and BRE. I am not sure if Accurail has issued models with the correct stenciling for this list's era as yet which would be the faceted and distinct Optic style.

--

Frank Greene
Memphis, TN


Re: Kadee's new generation of trucks

Marcelo Lordeiro <mrcustom@...>
 

Did you try to polish the Kadee wheel's treads with a wire brush on a rotary tool , I got very good results . becarefull with too much pressure or you will melt the axle points as I did on my first try.

As I do that on all Kadee wheels , I made a jig and remove the wheels from the axles to do the polishing and place back.

Marcelo Lordeiro


From: Andy Sperandeo
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 7:03 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Kadee's new generation of trucks



I've installed Reboxx wheelsets in the Kadee HGC trucks with good results, but I don't remember offhand which axle length they were. I like the trucks very much, but prefer the appearance of the plated brass wheels – shiny treads!

So long,,

Andy

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Re: Kadee's new generation of trucks

Andy Sperandeo
 

I've installed Reboxx wheelsets in the Kadee HGC trucks with good results, but I don't remember offhand which axle length they were. I like the trucks very much, but prefer the appearance of the plated brass wheels – shiny treads!

So long,,

Andy





















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Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling

Andy Harman
 

At 08:13 PM 5/9/2012 +0000, you wrote:

I donno, Andy, I'm sitting here at my desk looking at a set Pullman - Standard took in 1976. The difference is, these aren't free off the web, one actually has to pay money for them.
You say this as if I've never paid for a photo, which you have no way of knowing.

P-S took builders photos until the day they folded, as I'm sure the other builders did, also. The difference is, many of the recent photos are still held by the corporations that own them, and may not be generally available.
That's the thing, availability. I don't mind paying for photos but they need to be available and I need to be sure they are the right thing since I don't just go buy thousands of photos at a time hoping there's something useful in there - although buying a book can be that way on a smaller scale. But usually I can use most of what is published in a book, it's what's not in the book that is the fun part.

The one car I am having the most trouble finding as-built photos of is OT for this list. Interestingly the cars still exist and I can get plenty of (free) 21st century photos of them. Never been able to find a builders photo or any photo of it as-built. Even the kit maker doesn't have one.

Andy


Re: Let's talk about ladders.

Andy Sperandeo
 

Too long ago to think about I had some stamped brass freight car ladders from Kemtron, and still have a couple pair on old cabooses. They're not as bulky as you might expect, but obviously etching would be the way to go if a new product were to be made in brass.Etched brass ladders could be soldered to mounting pins, or have handrails and other details soldered to them. These would be big plusses as far as I'm concerned, and of course we'd want an assortment of common stile and rung spacings. 
So long,
Andy


Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@..., Andy Harman <gsgondola@...> wrote:

One thing I've often wondered about is the lack of builder's photos after
the steam era. It seems like the practice of taking high quality photos of
the class car at the builder faded quickly after 1960. Either that or else
they are simply not as accessible as the earlier ones. That has created a
considerable gap between this era and the digital camera / film-free era in
terms of coverage. Modeling the 1940s and 50s seems to actually be easier
than modeling the 60s and 70s - not just in terms of available models but
in terms of available photos.
I donno, Andy, I'm sitting here at my desk looking at a set Pullman - Standard took in 1976. The difference is, these aren't free off the web, one actually has to pay money for them.

P-S took builders photos until the day they folded, as I'm sure the other builders did, also. The difference is, many of the recent photos are still held by the corporations that own them, and may not be generally available.

There are a bunch of late era (future to this list) P-S photos in the collection of the Pullman Library at the Illinois Railway Museum.

Dennis


Re: Accurail 40' Steel Plug Door Refrigerator Car

Frank Greene
 

Bill, Accurail's website shows the FGE car with a NEW -52 date and WFE with a JAX -60 reweigh date, both in the Optic style letters.

On 5/9/2012 11:56 AM, lnbill wrote:
Ray

The Accurail Sliding door refrigerator car is correct for FGE, WFE and BRE. I am not sure if Accurail has issued models with the correct stenciling for this list's era as yet which would be the faceted and distinct Optic style.
--

Frank Greene
Memphis, TN


Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling Gould/TichyIMWX timeframe.

Bill Welch
 

Another reason why I think the IMWX model had great impact was that it coincided w/Rail Model Journal's articles about the 1937 boxcar both on the real thing with the photo resources of the Messers. Hawkins, Wider and Long collection and modeling articles using the new kit. these articles helped to educate us how important this design was and how many there were.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Tom:

I am sure the Gould/Tichy kits were first. While their die work was/is at a very level, I would argue that the IMWX model kit had greater impact because they were available with accurate paint and stenciling. Conversely the Gould/Tichy kits with a few exception have never been well supported with such essentials as decals, leaving it up to the modeler to sort out completing the model. The few examples they supported with decals featured poor quality decals.

That is my observation at least.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., tyesac@ wrote:


Bill,

Which came first IMWX cars of the Gould (later Tichy) cars? I thought the Gould cars camme first.

Tom Casey


The seminal styrene kit I think it could be argued was the "Innovative Model Works" 1937 boxcar kit. When was this kit introduced. Does anyone have any good stories about the development of this model by Jerry Porter they can send me?






-----Original Message-----
From: lnbill <fgexbill@>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 11:39 am
Subject: [STMFC] History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling




As some of you will remember from posts I made in the fall of 2011, I want to put together materials to create a history of modeling freight cars more accurately and more prototypically. I now have some good materials about the early offerings of Al Westerfield and the materials that publicized the releases of Westrail and Dennis Storzek. F&C is putting some materials together for me and I will be talking w/Martin about Sunshine's initial offerings.

Here are somethings I need your help with.

Materials related to Roller Bearing models--instructions, ads, kit lists, etc. It would especially be helpful to know when they started advertising. Also photos of built-up models.

Materials related to the Rail Progress hopper kits. (Do I have the correct name for this line?) Again built up model photos would be appreciated.

It could be argued that two seminal articles related to how our niche in the hobby has developed were Dennis Storzek's article on 5 things to do to improve existing styrene freight car models. This appeared sometime in the 1980's. Can someone provide scans of this article?

Bill Clouser's articles on using rubber molds and polyester (was that the material?) to make copies of parts, components, etc. Not sure of the dates or how many articles there were. Ned scans of at least one of these.

Arguably Prototype Modeler magazine helped change the thinking and orientation for some of us. I would love to have scans of the cover of the first few issues of this.

The seminal styrene kit I think it could be argued was the "Innovative Model Works" 1937 boxcar kit. When was this kit introduced. Does anyone have any good stories about the development of this model by Jerry Porter they can send me?

Can anyone furnish me with info about the beginnings of McKean, Front Range, and C&BT, i.e. the people involved, initial offerings, and or course nicely built up models.

Anecdotes about these pioneering styrene efforts and the people involved would be appreciated.

One more item and this may start an argument. Do we know who night have first used the term "Prototype" to describe the approach to what we are doing, either specifically to modeling, or more generally to the model railroading hobby.

I am planning to talk about this history from the 1/87th scale perspective because that is what I know. Tentatively this will be a presentation at Naperville and Cocoa Beach and I will consider how to make the presentation available to others for them to do a presentation.

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727-470-9930
fgexbill@







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Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling

Pieter Roos
 

Hi Bill;

I think you will find this history of Pacific Rail Shops on the S Scale Sig site interesting, as it connects PRS, IMWX and Front Range with specific products and dates:

http://sscale.org/426/volume-1-no-2-the-prs-story/

Vol. 1, No. 1 of Prototype Modeler magazine is available on-line at Trainlife.com:

http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/model-train-magazine-contents/790/prototype-modeler-august-1977

I may be able to find some of the RPI materials you ask about.

Hope that helps.

Pieter Roos

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

As some of you will remember from posts I made in the fall of 2011, I want to put together materials to create a history of modeling freight cars more accurately and more prototypically. I now have some good materials about the early offerings of Al Westerfield and the materials that publicized the releases of Westrail and Dennis Storzek. F&C is putting some materials together for me and I will be talking w/Martin about Sunshine's initial offerings.


Re: Kadee's new generation of trucks

golden1014
 

Andy,

Check out the latest SCL Modeler on the ACL & SAL Historical Scoeity web site. I did an article on the SAL B-8/B-9 cars and used the Kadee trucks with Reboxx semi-scale wheelsets and the combination works great and looks great. I also interviewed Sam Clarke for the article and discussed the HGC (Heavy Grade Compound) material in depth.

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

--- In STMFC@..., Andy Harman <gsgondola@...> wrote:

At 07:15 PM 5/8/2012 -0700, you wrote:
to the track, making them easier to re-rail. All in all, the kind of
engineering excellence we have come to expect from Kadee, and they
are gradually replacing the older trucks with them.
Has anyone installed code 88 wheels in these yet? I was looking at the
Reboxx web site and they recommended a 1.115" axle length for the older
Kadee trucks. I tried them in a pair of the new A3s and there is too much
play - although the Kadee axle measures at about 1.115" tip to tip, the
smaller diameter and point on the Reboxx axle just rattles around in the
Kadee journal. I'm thinking they're going to need 1.125 or 1.130. My
current policy on code 88 wheels is that I will try to always use them on
any open-ended car... hopper, tank car, etc where the wheel profile is
visible, and I'll use them on a box car or gondola if the kit comes with
them in the correct trucks but otherwise I'll use code 110.

Andy


Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling

Andy Harman
 

At 05:26 PM 5/9/2012 +0000, you wrote:
commercially made prototype STMFC kits. And Gould's tank car, though a model of a car which was never built, nonetheless set a new standard for a STMFC model. Criticise it all that you want to--how many of us on this list that model in HO scale don't have at least one??
I bought one when it was first released and all the rage, still under the Gould label. I never built it because I really didn't know what to do with it - back then I just tended to buy anything I thought was cool. I had no prototype photos of the car, but didn't realize nobody had any.... I finally ebayed it a few years ago. I wish now I had kept it for my wife, who is pretty much just into tank cars of any era - I think she would have enjoyed building it. She just finished her RYM acid car officially last week.

Andy


Re: Kadee's new generation of trucks

Andy Harman
 

At 10:09 AM 5/9/2012 -0700, you wrote:
Kadee's own code 88 wheels work just fine, and the trucks are
available with them (or soon will be)
Must have missed that. I was looking around the web site but didn't look under wheel sets.

Rip Van Harman


Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling

Andy Harman
 

At 01:03 PM 5/9/2012 -0400, you wrote:
long after, the Storzek Soo Line and Rutland DS box car kits in resin
came along. That was when I turned my back on Athearn blue box kits
forever.
I first became interested in accurate freight car modeling in the early 1980s. I had a friend who was a college student and he couldn't afford to build locomotives, so he built freight cars - a fair number of them. He kitbashed Athearn and other cars, and used a lot of decals. He joined us in our NMRA show displays and I was floored at how much better the whole thing looked with accurate freight cars instead of the generic Athearn stuff everybody had... and this wasn't lost on the public either, we received a lot of positive comments about Bills freight cars.

I said that's when I became interested... but, in spite of having been a charter member of Richard Hosker's FCL (one of the only indie mailing lists formed before my diesel list) and charter members of this list as well as the MFCL, I didn't really start building freight cars in earnest until 2006. As far back as the mid 90s I started trying to pay more attention and do my homework before buying RTR models, but I still ended up with lots and lots of foobies. I'd love to say that hasn't happened lately but.... anyway, I think I've spent as much on books and photos as I have on kits and parts just in the last 18 months. And found an ORER appropriate to my time frame and learned more or less how to use it. Even so I'm relying heavily on the generosity of those on this list and others to provide reliable information and photos and things are progressing at a snail's pace.

In the end, I hope for my freight car fleet to be 80% accurate, 15% good stand-in or a minor era fudge, and 5% unexplainable foob. But it's not likely more than 25% of it will be built - it will be mostly RTR or deco kit built but again hopefully with foreknowledge. Good example - the forthcoming alternate standard 2-bay hopper from Intermountain. I've ordered up a bunch in NKP and Erie, and a few undecs.

So I'm a slow learner, but I've been busy doing other things....

Andy


Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling Gould/TichyIMWX timeframe.

Andy Harman
 

At 12:48 PM 5/9/2012 -0400, you wrote:

Which came first IMWX cars of the Gould (later Tichy) cars? I thought the Gould cars camme first.
This is fun to try and test my memory without looking it up... my normal source is old MR ads and what not, but those are all in storage while I fix up my basement. I remember the Gould tank car and I think it got its first write-up in Mainline Modeler, which means it has to be 1980 or later. I bought one, sold it unbuilt.... I remember discussions on Compuserve's TrainNet circa 1989 where some guys were saying from now on Tichy was their minimum standard for freight cars, and I commented that they must not have a very diverse fleet. If I had to pick a number I'd say 1985. Just SWAG on my part, but I'm fairly sure that it came after E&B and the first incarnation of Fast Freddie, but before IMWX and Intermountain.

Oh, almost forgot about another flat kit from the mid 80s... the Ramax ACF 2-bay CF hopper. Front Range later did the same car in a one-piece body.

But it's difficult to discuss any of this without getting outside of the steam era since many manufacturers and pioneers crossed the boundary.

When did Sunshine and F&C start? I had no awareness of Sunshine until I attended my first Naperville event in 1994 or 95. F&C I think was around before that, I mainly remember their ads but nobody locally carried their stuff, and I rarely if ever bought anything by mail back then.

Oh, I just thought of something else. Red Ball's B&O wagon top hopper - the one composed of the flat, thin white metal castings that you had to bend to shape. I'm actually thinking 1970s, like 78 or 79 for this one. I think I still have it, never tried to build it... and I think have the F&C version also, ditto.

Andy


Re: "The Nickel Plate Story" 1953

David Henderson
 

Ray....

Thanks for the history lesson. It,s amazing what turns up in those old PR films.
Thanks again...

David

--- In STMFC@..., Ray Breyer <rtbsvrr69@...> wrote:

Just finished watching "The Nickel Plate Story" 1953 on You Tube. The item that caught my eye was at 5 minutes
and 21 seconds into the film. NKP 32082 rolled by, a panel side hopper on it's way to the coal docks. I didn't know
the NKP had panel side hoppers. Can someone shed some light on the history of these cars?
Regards.....David Henderson

Hi David,

Sure can! NKP 32000-32149 were rebuilt by the NKP from their 30750-31749 composite hoppers (the larger of their two series of composite twins, built by Pressed Steel in 1923). The Conneaut shops rebuilt them all from kit sides between January and April 1936.

These cars are a bit different than most conventional panel side hoppers, in that they only have six panels per side. When they were rebuilt their wood slope sheets and ends were replaced with corrugated ends from retired 36 foot DS boxcars. The cars are definitely a scratchbuilding project!

The cars wore two paint schemes that I've been able to determine, with 1945-1950 being the general changeover period.

The cars didn't last very long overall. While their USRA twins and conventionally rebuilt composite hoppers lasted right through 1964, these panel rebuilds were gone by 1955 (three remaining in that ORER).

Hope this helps!
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

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Re: Modeling truss rods

albyrno
 

The advantage to THICK .025 wire is it won't bend easily,I've had craftsmen kits with .008 brass wire for truss rods.I use .011 because thats the size of the first string on my guitar,its spring steel/music wire and is free,go to a music store and ask for an old acoustic guitar string the diameter you desire or from musician friend or buy a steel string for guitar.
 Alan


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From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Modeling truss rods


 

Let's see now, 0.025 in. wire is equivalent to 2.25 in. in HO scale. Those
are some bodacious truss rods!

Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
robertm
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:47 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Modeling truss rods

At the recommendation of a modeler better than me I used

.025" music wire from K&S Engineering. You can find it at Walthers.

The good thing about this is its steel just like the prototype.

Bob Moeller

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "EdwardM"
<ed_mines@...> wrote:



--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "robertm"
<robertmoeller47@> wrote:
In the end I used music wire.
What diameter did you use and where did you get it?

Ed Mines


Re: History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling

Andy Harman
 

At 04:39 PM 5/9/2012 +0000, you wrote:

Materials related to Roller Bearing models--instructions, ads, kit lists, etc. It would especially be helpful to know when they started advertising. Also photos of built-up models.
I bought an RBM kit around 1977. I think it was a tank car. I ebayed it some years ago unbuilt. I don't think that was their first kit though.

The seminal styrene kit I think it could be argued was the "Innovative Model Works" 1937 boxcar kit. When was this kit introduced. Does anyone have any good stories about the development of this model by Jerry Porter they can send me?
Did that predate the Intermountain Canadian Cylindrical?

My recollection of the first attempt outside the box by an upstart kit maker was the 70-ton ACF covered hopper by E&B Valley which was released in 1980 I believe. It was at the 1980 MRIA show that I first encountered Westerfield. The E&B stuff was crude but brought back the flat kit concept for a while, which allowed new prototypes to be tooled for less $$ than the one-piece standard Athearn was using.

Hard to believe that in the mid 1970s Athearn was so dominant that on any given layout 90 or even 100% of the freight cars were Athearn or Athearn based.

I suppose any history of prototype freight car modeling has to cover oopsies like the Gould tank car. Certainly a milestone in tooling refinement, if not prototypical accuracy.

One thing I've often wondered about is the lack of builder's photos after the steam era. It seems like the practice of taking high quality photos of the class car at the builder faded quickly after 1960. Either that or else they are simply not as accessible as the earlier ones. That has created a considerable gap between this era and the digital camera / film-free era in terms of coverage. Modeling the 1940s and 50s seems to actually be easier than modeling the 60s and 70s - not just in terms of available models but in terms of available photos.

I am planning to talk about this history from the 1/87th scale perspective because that is what I know. Tentatively this will be a presentation at Naperville and Cocoa Beach and I will consider how to make the presentation available to others for them to do a presentation.
Now this I'd sit still in a crowded stuffy room for :-) I rarely attend clinics but this one I wouldn't miss. Keep us posted... I hope to be making Naperville this year and of course Cocoa next year to keep my streak alive.

Andy


History of Prototype Freight Car Modeling Gould/TichyIMWX timeframe.

Andy Carlson
 

I was a younger Prototype modeler in 1987 when I met a gracious influential
gentleman at the Eugene, OR. NMRA convention. The Westrail kits he developed and
marketed were real eye-openers for me. Later, his scholarly writings in various
modeling magazines cemented his stature as the greatest Prototype pioneer in
Model Railroading.


Another item worthy of mention: back then, the McKeen double door 40' boxcar
raised the bar high enough that later Intermountain, Red Caboose and other
companies had higher standards to reach. We are all better off now because of
this pioneering styrene freight car.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

84681 - 84700 of 193447