Good afternoon!

      Jerry did the decals for us for some S scale kits.  The box car is a fish belly underframe radial roof 40' box car as it ran in the 1940's (see his artwork for two versions).

     Ours arrived today and as usual are beautiful.  What else can you say about any of Jerry's decals.

Bob McCarthy

THE SUPPLY CAR

Thanks to all who responded to my request. – Al Westerfield

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I would guess the PRR as the RR that built the most steam locos to pull their freight cars in the steam era. Then the N&W and GN (my bias). Obviously a wild guess.
Tyrone Johnsen
Rockford, IL

Would someone who belongs to the passenger car list please contact me off list? Al Westerfield westerfield@charter.net

I did it for an S-scale customer and thought I might as well include it for those who might have use for it.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

They'd work well on Sunshine 52.1 - 52.6

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

I'm wondering - is there a specific model to which the NP wood boxcar decals are specifically designed?

Rob Kirkham

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From: "Gerald Glow" <jerryglow@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:33 AM
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] new decals

Now that my printer is back up and producing, I can announce what I've
been working on lately. I finished the Hill road combo door cars with
the addition of a set for CB&Q see:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/CB&Q_combo.jpg
I added a NP wood boxcar in two schemes:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/NP_wood.jpg
Ann Arbor rebuild: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/AA_rbld.jpg
C&NW rebuild: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/CNW_rebuild.jpg
Rock Island rebuild: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/RI_rbld.jpg
and some for Stan Rydarowicz in HO but from me for other scales like:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/URTX-Milw.jpg

--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals





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Aaron, I've just posted a scan in the files section listed
as "Biggest XM Shipper_South001.jpg ". I know that at 1955, this
is two years past your time frame model, and mine also,
however I would like to believe the data still applies to a large degree.
I'm using this document in helping determine my purchases of
south states region cars. Comments welcomed. Jim Dick

Jim Singer of 5th Ave. Car Shops sent me samples of two new releases
that may be of interest to people on this list. Both use the new
Sliding Flush Door steel reefer kit from Accurail.

BREX 76252 This represents a car built by PC&F in July 1952. The car
has a 1-1955 PLT reweigh date. This car does need to have round fan
plate added.

MNX 1953 This is a meat reefer version owned by National Car Company
built in July 1952 by FGE"s Indiana Harbor Shops.

Both are beautifully painted and lettered--yellow sides, freight car
red ends, and aluminum roof. I don't see these on their website as yet:

http://www.accurail.com/accurail/art/custom/carshops/carshops.htm

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727-470-9930
fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com

On Fri, May 18, 2012 1:36 pm, Andy Harman wrote:

At 01:22 PM 5/18/2012 -0700, you wrote:

I think I could have done that at Kadee a couple weeks ago. Only needed
some trucks though.

I would love to go on a parts shopping spree at Kadee. They have so many
things no in their catalog - pretty much any part from anything they have,
but only a portion of them are cataloged for retail sales.

I bought ($2) their latest catalog at the Siskiyou Summit meet a couple
weeks back. It's 3/4" of an inch thick or so... when I get it back from my
father-in-law, anything you want me to check for?


--
Jeff Shultz
http://www.shultzinfosystems.com

At 01:22 PM 5/18/2012 -0700, you wrote:

I think I could have done that at Kadee a couple weeks ago. Only needed
some trucks though.

I would love to go on a parts shopping spree at Kadee. They have so many things no in their catalog - pretty much any part from anything they have, but only a portion of them are cataloged for retail sales. For instance the 9' thin frame doors I bought direct, not listed or at least they weren't at the time. And the #78 couplers sans boxes that someone mentioned last week, for those of us with unbuilt RYM kits that require them.

Oh BTW, the last production #78 couplers do not have the "long jaw" knuckles that the early 78s and 58s had - they were upgraded before being discontinued. I checked the packs I have on hand and they have the improved knuckles, same as a current 58/158.

Andy

I think I could have done that at Kadee a couple weeks ago. Only needed
some trucks though.

--
Jeff Shultz
http://www.shultzinfosystems.com

At 10:38 AM 5/18/2012 -0700, you wrote:

Don't know if they still use the shoebox <g> but their web site
lists an awful lot of parts to this day.

After talking with Mike Hopkin at length about this, I'm convinced that a phone call to the parts lady (Mike's wife) is far, far more effective than anything in email. She knows what they really have, and what you're talking about - the person reading the email may not. Which reminds me... there are some things I need.

Andy

Great stuff Jerry! You fill the void.
Clark Propst

Jerry Glow wrote:

Oh for the days you could walk into Athearn with a list of parts and the gal would return with a shoebox sized box of usually all items

Don't know if they still use the shoebox <g> but their web site lists an awful lot of parts to this day. From time to time I get people responding to my blog post about kitbashing SP tank cars and they say, "gee where can I get Athearn parts or car bodies?" I send 'em to the website.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history

Oh for the days you could walk into Athearn with a list of parts and the gal would return with a shoebox sized box of usually all items

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "soolinehistory" <destorzek@...> wrote:

.................

Which is another reason that OEM doesn't work well with parts from China.

Dennis

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:

Dennis Storzek writes:

"All that's changed, for the most part, because none of the people you can
get on the phone in North America are really the OEM any longer; they are
all importers that have goods manufactured under contract elsewhere."

I won't argue with the comment "...for the most part", but I will disagree
with the notion that "none" of the people that you can get on the phone in
North America are really OEM...

You know, you are right, Mike. I left out Grandt Line, Dave Granndt, and his father before him, has always understood this, and supported innumerable small manufacturers with good quality parts at pricing that make the kits possible. I understand Don Tichy does much the same. So, I stand corrected.

Dennis

At 04:52 PM 5/18/2012 +0000, you wrote:

Tom has it right, at least as far as the model railroad industry is concerned (and who really cares about computers or musical instruments?)

They're EXAMPLES of industry use of the term, I thought I was pretty clear about that. The term OEM has been used, inconsistently, across many industries, and as you're proving, inconsistently in the model railroad industry as well.

Andy

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "pullmanboss" <pullmanboss@...> wrote:

Andy Harman wrote:

Ah but... Jon [Cagle] who IS an OEM in the literal definition, does not call
himself one.

I suspect, in the case Mike cited, that Jon considers himself a subcontractor. That is, he is providing specialty cast parts that are _not_ part of his own product line, to another party. Unless special arrangements are made, Jon wouldn't be able to add those parts to his line. This is different from Dennis' example.

Tom "just adding to the confusion" Madden

Tom has it right, at least as far as the model railroad industry is concerned (and who really cares about computers or musical instruments?) Accurail sells, or has sold trucks, couplers, coupler boxes, wheels, and occasionally car floors to other manufacturers on an OEM basis. These are all our standard parts... it's up to the purchaser to determine if they are suitable for his purpose. We've also custom molded trucks with different bolster dimensions foe MDC and CB&T in the past, but strictly speaking, these aren't OEM sales, because we can't take those parts out of our stock; we have to set up the mold with special components made special for just this job, and the purchaser has to take the whole part run... which means all the set-up costs get charged to his run.

Jon Cagle is in the same class as Tom is himself... a resin caster who will do custom work. Tom did a little run of parts for me some years ago, from my patterns, for use in some Soo Line society passenger car kits. But they weren't a standard part in Tom's line.

It's those set-up charges that keep some of the neat recent parts out of the mainstream kits. If a manufacturer needs 8,000 parts, we can easily either ship from stock, or leave the tool in the press an extra day next time we run the part, and those parts will be almost the same cost as we pay to put them in our own kits. To the little guys, that 8,000 part order is a major run, and they think that's what's going to pay for the tool. There is no economy of scale beyond the run we are asking for, and quite frankly, if I have to pay for someone else's tool, I'd rather just build it myself. That way, I know that the same parts will be available in the future.

Which is another reason that OEM doesn't work well with parts from China.

Dennis

Now that my printer is back up and producing, I can announce what I've
been working on lately. I finished the Hill road combo door cars with
the addition of a set for CB&Q see:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/CB&Q_combo.jpg
I added a NP wood boxcar in two schemes:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/NP_wood.jpg
Ann Arbor rebuild: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/AA_rbld.jpg
C&NW rebuild: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/CNW_rebuild.jpg
Rock Island rebuild: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/RI_rbld.jpg
and some for Stan Rydarowicz in HO but from me for other scales like:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/URTX-Milw.jpg

--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals