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Re: GPEX cars in freight trains, wasGAC Pfaulder Milk Reefers in freight service

soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Don" <riverman_vt@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

The "monogram" was noted in the photo but does not appear remotely close to any that I am familiar with being used on GPEX cars.... Are we certain it is a monogram and not a defect in the photo?

Cordially, Don Valentine
Hard to tell, but the "monogram" looks suspiciously like a drawing of a Carnation Milk can. Can't say that Carnation ever had cars so marked, but if this is so, that helps explain the placement in a freight train, as condensed milk products were typically made with "Grade B" (or manufacturing grade)milk, which didn't require as time sensitive shipping, since it was past its prime anyway.

Dennis


Re: New format?

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Gentlemen/ladies.



Yes it applies to all groups and yes it is much different in form but really
little different in function. It took me all of two days to get so used to
it I don't even think of it anymore other than these posts. And

I am well into geezerhood.



John Hagen.


Re: New format?

Tom Madden
 

George, I am 'enjoying' the same problem. I wonder if it only manifests itself in the 'digest' mode.
Yes. Not a problem with individual emails, nor when reading posts on a Group's web site. It seems to be across all groups and is not just a STMFC (or PCL) problem.

Tom Madden, sticking his nose in where he shouldn't...


Re: New format?

Rossiter, Mark W <Mark.Rossiter@...>
 

George, I am 'enjoying' the same problem. I wonder if it only manifests
itself in the 'digest' mode. Otherwise, I'm sure there would be a lot
more screaming.


Re: machine screws

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
They're cheaper online to be sure, but I just saw $9.70 for 100 1/4" O-80 screws which is 400% higher than what you posted. Perhaps you haven't needed to buy any screws for a while? :-)
Just went to the Micro Fasteners site. The 100 0-80 screws you describe, 1/4" long in brass (usually the most expensive material) are $5.10. Don't know where your &9.70 comes from. Of course there is a shipping charge, which I didn't cite because it is highly non-linear with order size, just as I didn't mention tax for a LHS purchase (or your gas to get there and back).
But I note you don't contest my contrast between the little bags of 8 screws, vs. a bulk purchase.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: GPEX cars in freight trains, wasGAC Pfaulder Milk Reefers in freight service

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hi Bill,

The "monogram" was noted in the photo but does not appear remotely close to any that I am familiar with being used on GPEX cars. Then there is the other issue. The car appears to be one of the postwar constructed versions with the inward "quarter round" at the bottom of the sides beneath the floor level. If that view is correct it is the
only car from that group I can recall seeing that had anything approaching a monogram on it. They were certainly used on several types of the prewar steel sheathed cars as well as wood sheathed cars, though most seem to have come off during the war, but I have never before seen such use on any of the postwar constructed milk cars. Are we certain it is a monogram and not a defect in the photo?

Cordially, Don Valentine

--- In STMFC@..., "Bill" <wpmccoy@...> wrote:

Thanks Don and all. I'll learn about posting files instead of Photos. I appreciate your patience.

The car in the photo appears to have a large monogram of some sort on the car side to the right of the door. Could this have been a H. P. Hood logo? Are there any pictures of the Hood cars in this service? Would they have received additional dimensional stencilling?

I know 2 GAC wood milk reefers were in OJ concentrate service for Eversweet from Frostproof, FL to Chicago, sadly well executed by Athearn but on their awful GAC express reefer. I wish Walthers would consider doing these cars.

Any other Juice concentrate freight movements that come to mind using former milk service cars?

Thanks,

Bill McCoy,

Jax, FL


Re: machine screws

Tim O'Connor
 

Tony,

They're cheaper online to be sure, but I just saw $9.70 for 100 1/4" O-80 screws which is 400% higher
than what you posted. Perhaps you haven't needed to buy any screws for a while? :-)

Tim O'Connor

----- Original Message -----

Was in a hobby shop the other day and saw one of those racks with cute little bags of machine screws, costing several bucks for 8 screws (I won't mention the name of the packager, but many will know who I mean). It reminded me that you can buy them at $2.50 for 100 screws, in all the right model railroad sizes and lengths, from Micro Fasteners ( www.microfasteners.com ). I have no affiliation with or stake in them, I just buy from them on-line. I'm all for supporting the LHS, but not to this extent.
Tony Thompson


Re: machine screws

gettheredesigns <rick@...>
 

I second, MicroFasteners is an excellent vendor.

Another great source for a million supplies is McMaster-Carr industrial supply.

www.mcmaster.com

Drill bits, spring wire, adhesives, fasteners, you name it, most in small quantities, sold to anyone, no minimum, reasonable priceswith outstanding customer service. Need a .005" end mill? It ships today! I have been a loyal customer for business and personal needs for 30 years. My LHS is 120 miles away.
Peace, Rick Aylsworth

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Was in a hobby shop the other day and saw one of those racks with cute little bags of machine screws, costing several bucks for 8 screws (I won't mention the name of the packager, but many will know who I mean). It reminded me that you can buy them at $2.50 for 100 screws, in all the right model railroad sizes and lengths, from Micro Fasteners (www.microfasteners.com). I have no affiliation with or stake in them, I just buy from them on-line. I'm all for supporting the LHS, but not to this extent.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: machine screws

mopacfirst
 

A few yars ago I bought a small can of 1000 brass 2-56 x 1/4 round head screws, which I hope to run out of in my lifetime.

Ron Merrick

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Was in a hobby shop the other day and saw one of those racks with cute little bags of machine screws, costing several bucks for 8 screws (I won't mention the name of the packager, but many will know who I mean). It reminded me that you can buy them at $2.50 for 100 screws, in all the right model railroad sizes and lengths, from Micro Fasteners (www.microfasteners.com). I have no affiliation with or stake in them, I just buy from them on-line. I'm all for supporting the LHS, but not to this extent.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: USRA 40-ton Boxcars rebuilt as FGE Refrigerator Cars?!

Bill Welch
 

Dear Bob

As I noted in my original post, the company information I have for the rebuilding of these cars is in conflict and I cannot confirm that the caption date is correct.

I am not sure why you are expecting to find "orders" for these cars. FGE routinely did rebuilding in their company shops during the 1930s and only referred generally to this in their own annual reports.

A reminder to everyone, my original post was about trying to find the possible original source of the cars used to achieve these rebuilds.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "rwitt_2000" <rwitt_2000@...> wrote:

Bill,

I guess with so few photographs as examples one cannot be 100% sure.

Can you confirm the rebuild date of 1938 as stated in the caption in the
"Postwar Freight Car Fleet"? I am surprised that I can find no orders
for these cars unless another car builder did the conversions.

FWIW, WIF should be West India Fruit Company.

Bob Witt



Bill Welch wrote:

Bob

The WIF mechanical is a conversion of one of the FGE cars in question.

Bill Welch
This photo reminds me of the mechanical refrigerator built for the
Western Indian Fruit Company WIF 800, which seems to based upon a
similar rebuilding of a USRA DS box car although the ends differ
from
that illustrated in the book "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet". The
caption states these cars first appeared in 1938. Looking at the
summary
of freight cars built for the years 1936-1938, I find no listings
for
refrigerator car orders placed by the Fruit Growers Express.

Below are the links to these photos of WIF 800 from the Florida
Railroad
web site.

Main page: http://www.flarr.com/fgeco.htm

FEC Picture #005 <http://www.flarr.com/wifsc1.htm>
West India Fruit & Steamship Co. - Mechanical Refrigerator Car. View
1

FEC Picture #006 <http://www.flarr.com/wifsc2.htm>
West India Fruit & Steamship Co. - Mechanical Refrigerator Car. View
2

The photo captions state that this rebuild occurred in 1957.

Regards,

Bob Witt




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Re: machine screws

Dennis Williams
 

Tony.
  I purchase mine through Fastenal.  I ,too, have no ties with them, just down the street.

Dennis Williams/Owner
http://www.resinbuilders4u.com/


________________________________
From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 7:00 PM
Subject: [STMFC] machine screws



 

Was in a hobby shop the other day and saw one of those racks with cute little bags of machine screws, costing several bucks for 8 screws (I won't mention the name of the packager, but many will know who I mean). It reminded me that you can buy them at $2.50 for 100 screws, in all the right model railroad sizes and lengths, from Micro Fasteners (http://www.microfasteners.com/). I have no affiliation with or stake in them, I just buy from them on-line. I'm all for supporting the LHS, but not to this extent.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 http://www.signaturepress.com/
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, mailto:thompson%40signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: A C&BT Shops Fe-26 lives...finally

Mikebrock
 

Charles Hostetler writes in response to my:

Oh...if you can come up with the number of Archer rivets
on the car, you get a Get Out of Jail Free card.
I hope I don't ever have to use a "get out of jail free" card, but my guess is 110 per side, for a total of 220. Close?

Damn close. In fact, you now have a Get out of jail free card.

"As to the question mark, I sorted through my "archives" and found the original waybill commemorating the event - it was really in Buford to drop off a Harley for the station agent:

http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/atsf-64200-64699.html

Too bad. I had rather hoped that the car might have contained supplies for making beer...quite appropriate for the agent there...

Mike Brock


GN flat cars... in Miami!

Tim O'Connor
 

How's this for coincidence? Two of the GN flat cars Chad Boas
has done (with Jerry Glow decals), with two streetcars in the
famous 1950's "exportocus" of streetcars that I've heard about
previously... And they sell prints from the web site!

http://floridamemory.com/items/show/35363

Can anyone identify those particular street cars? I wonder if
the cars were on their way to Cuba... or maybe South America.

Tim O'Connor


Re: USRA 40-ton Boxcars rebuilt as FGE Refrigerator Cars?!

rwitt_2000
 

Bill,

I guess with so few photographs as examples one cannot be 100% sure.

Can you confirm the rebuild date of 1938 as stated in the caption in the
"Postwar Freight Car Fleet"? I am surprised that I can find no orders
for these cars unless another car builder did the conversions.

FWIW, WIF should be West India Fruit Company.

Bob Witt



Bill Welch wrote:

Bob

The WIF mechanical is a conversion of one of the FGE cars in question.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "rwitt_2000" rwitt_2000@ wrote:

Bill Welch wrote:

On page 97 of "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet" there is a photo of
FGEX 10857--a rebuild--that was part of the FGEX 10850-10999
series
(140 cars). The FGE Company information I have regarding rebuild
dates is in conflict. One source says 1932 and the other says
1937.
The side sheathing consists of two horizontal riveted panels on
each
side of the doors, the top panel is roughly twice the size of the
bottom panel, a style replicated by FGEX 52680-52779, a group of
100
steel rebuilds on ex-PRR R7 reefer u/f's, and two series of new
cars
built by FGE in 1939-40, FDEX 9250-9299 (50 cars) and FGEX
52780-52999 (5 cars) that are very similar to steel cars built by
PFE
and ART as well as WFE (50 cars) and BRE (270 cars) before WWII.
The
rebuilds have the Hutchins roof common on FGE/WFE/BRE System cars
as
replacements.

What fascinates and confounds me is understanding the heritage of
these cars. Although I have no proof, given their combination of
5/5/5 Murphy ends, fishbelly u/f, and Andrews trucks, I believe
these cars may have originally been USRA DS 40-ton boxcars. One
possible weak link in my speculation are the trucks, since
obviously
these were used under many cars unrelated to the USRA usage.
However
Andrews trucks were very rare for FGE. In fact this is only group
I
am aware of equipped with Andrews owned by FGE. Within the
FGE/WFE/
BRE System, Burlington Refrigerator did use Andrews. I know of no
usage of this type by WFE. FGE however was a thrifty company and
it
makes since to me they would not have replaced a perfectly good
truck
if it was not necessary so I think that ends, underframes and
trucks
all came on the original cars, wherever they came from and
whatever
their source.

It would strengthen my argument if I could identify a plausible
Railroad source for these 140 rebuilds but in going through the
various articles and most recently the RP CYC articles and tables,
I
cannot seem to find a possible source. I have long thought the
5/5/5
Murphy end was unique to the USRA boxcars but maybe not, meaning
perhaps other possible sources for these rebuilds.

I thought I would see if anyone on this list has a good scenario
for
the origins of these cars? Maybe I have overlooked an owner of
USRA
DS cars who disposed of 140 cars sometime in the early or mid
1930's.

Bill,

This photo reminds me of the mechanical refrigerator built for the
Western Indian Fruit Company WIF 800, which seems to based upon a
similar rebuilding of a USRA DS box car although the ends differ
from
that illustrated in the book "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet". The
caption states these cars first appeared in 1938. Looking at the
summary
of freight cars built for the years 1936-1938, I find no listings
for
refrigerator car orders placed by the Fruit Growers Express.

Below are the links to these photos of WIF 800 from the Florida
Railroad
web site.

Main page: http://www.flarr.com/fgeco.htm

FEC Picture #005 <http://www.flarr.com/wifsc1.htm>
West India Fruit & Steamship Co. - Mechanical Refrigerator Car. View
1

FEC Picture #006 <http://www.flarr.com/wifsc2.htm>
West India Fruit & Steamship Co. - Mechanical Refrigerator Car. View
2

The photo captions state that this rebuild occurred in 1957.

Regards,

Bob Witt




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Re: GAC Pfaulder Milk Reefers in freight service

Bill McCoy
 

Thanks Don and all. I'll learn about posting files instead of Photos. I appreciate your patience.

The car in the photo appears to have a large monogram of some sort on the car side to the right of the door. Could this have been a H. P. Hood logo? Are there any pictures of the Hood cars in this service? Would they have received additional dimensional stencilling?

I know 2 GAC wood milk reefers were in OJ concentrate service for Eversweet from Frostproof, FL to Chicago, sadly well executed by Athearn but on their awful GAC express reefer. I wish Walthers would consider doing these cars.

Any other Juice concentrate freight movements that come to mind using former milk service cars?

Thanks,

Bill McCoy,

Jax, FL

--- In STMFC@..., "Don" <riverman_vt@...> wrote:



--- In STMFC@..., "Bill" <wpmccoy@> wrote:

Warren Calloway sent the photo I've sent to the Photos section of ACL 912 North at Rocky MT, NC in probably 1963 or 64. I know the photo date is outside this group's scope but the second car in the train may not be. It looks like a GAF Pfaulder reefer with a monogram of some sort and the standard GAC gold lettering. I want to justify one of these cars for my 1950s SE era. Any ideas on who the lesssee would be?

Unfortunately I cannot find the photo you refer to in the photo section under "ACL", "Calloway", GPEX, or "milk car" but expect you are probably refering to 6,000 gal. capacity cars of orange juice concentrate from Dunedin, Fla. to Boston for H.P. Hood & Sons, though others unknown to me may also have moved o.j. concentrate in this manner. Hood was still receiving such carloads until it went to trucks in 1972. The steam and passenger signal lines were removed from the milk cars earlier for use in freight rather than passenger service. H.P. Hood, by-the-way, was the largest user of the GPEX cars and the last to use them in milk service. The Richter Vinegar Company, however, was still using them in brine service between Manitowoc, Wis. and Ludington, Mich. as late as August 1978 in which service they spent more time on Lake Michigan car ferries than on actual rail. The L&N and GM&O, thence IC, used a number of them for water cars in work train service as well. At least a half dozen have been preserved at various locations.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: USRA 40-ton Boxcars rebuilt as FGE Refrigerator Cars?!

Bill Welch
 

Bob

The WIF mechanical is a conversion of one of the FGE cars in question.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "rwitt_2000" <rwitt_2000@...> wrote:

Bill Welch wrote:

On page 97 of "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet" there is a photo of
FGEX 10857--a rebuild--that was part of the FGEX 10850-10999 series
(140 cars). The FGE Company information I have regarding rebuild
dates is in conflict. One source says 1932 and the other says 1937.
The side sheathing consists of two horizontal riveted panels on each
side of the doors, the top panel is roughly twice the size of the
bottom panel, a style replicated by FGEX 52680-52779, a group of 100
steel rebuilds on ex-PRR R7 reefer u/f's, and two series of new cars
built by FGE in 1939-40, FDEX 9250-9299 (50 cars) and FGEX
52780-52999 (5 cars) that are very similar to steel cars built by PFE
and ART as well as WFE (50 cars) and BRE (270 cars) before WWII. The
rebuilds have the Hutchins roof common on FGE/WFE/BRE System cars as
replacements.

What fascinates and confounds me is understanding the heritage of
these cars. Although I have no proof, given their combination of
5/5/5 Murphy ends, fishbelly u/f, and Andrews trucks, I believe
these cars may have originally been USRA DS 40-ton boxcars. One
possible weak link in my speculation are the trucks, since obviously
these were used under many cars unrelated to the USRA usage. However
Andrews trucks were very rare for FGE. In fact this is only group I
am aware of equipped with Andrews owned by FGE. Within the FGE/WFE/
BRE System, Burlington Refrigerator did use Andrews. I know of no
usage of this type by WFE. FGE however was a thrifty company and it
makes since to me they would not have replaced a perfectly good truck
if it was not necessary so I think that ends, underframes and trucks
all came on the original cars, wherever they came from and whatever
their source.

It would strengthen my argument if I could identify a plausible
Railroad source for these 140 rebuilds but in going through the
various articles and most recently the RP CYC articles and tables, I
cannot seem to find a possible source. I have long thought the 5/5/5
Murphy end was unique to the USRA boxcars but maybe not, meaning
perhaps other possible sources for these rebuilds.

I thought I would see if anyone on this list has a good scenario for
the origins of these cars? Maybe I have overlooked an owner of USRA
DS cars who disposed of 140 cars sometime in the early or mid 1930's.

Bill,

This photo reminds me of the mechanical refrigerator built for the
Western Indian Fruit Company WIF 800, which seems to based upon a
similar rebuilding of a USRA DS box car although the ends differ from
that illustrated in the book "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet". The
caption states these cars first appeared in 1938. Looking at the summary
of freight cars built for the years 1936-1938, I find no listings for
refrigerator car orders placed by the Fruit Growers Express.

Below are the links to these photos of WIF 800 from the Florida Railroad
web site.

Main page: http://www.flarr.com/fgeco.htm

FEC Picture #005 <http://www.flarr.com/wifsc1.htm>
West India Fruit & Steamship Co. - Mechanical Refrigerator Car. View 1

FEC Picture #006 <http://www.flarr.com/wifsc2.htm>
West India Fruit & Steamship Co. - Mechanical Refrigerator Car. View 2

The photo captions state that this rebuild occurred in 1957.

Regards,

Bob Witt




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Re: Stop At . . . [Was: C&BT Shops Fe-26 lives]

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

I should have mentioned that I actually HAVE shown a "Stop At" waybill filled out, in one blog post. Apologies for not citing it earlier. It's at:

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2011/07/waybills-9.html

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: USRA 40-ton Boxcars rebuilt as FGE Refrigerator Cars?!

rwitt_2000
 

Bill Welch wrote:

On page 97 of "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet" there is a photo of
FGEX 10857--a rebuild--that was part of the FGEX 10850-10999 series
(140 cars). The FGE Company information I have regarding rebuild
dates is in conflict. One source says 1932 and the other says 1937.
The side sheathing consists of two horizontal riveted panels on each
side of the doors, the top panel is roughly twice the size of the
bottom panel, a style replicated by FGEX 52680-52779, a group of 100
steel rebuilds on ex-PRR R7 reefer u/f's, and two series of new cars
built by FGE in 1939-40, FDEX 9250-9299 (50 cars) and FGEX
52780-52999 (5 cars) that are very similar to steel cars built by PFE
and ART as well as WFE (50 cars) and BRE (270 cars) before WWII. The
rebuilds have the Hutchins roof common on FGE/WFE/BRE System cars as
replacements.

What fascinates and confounds me is understanding the heritage of
these cars. Although I have no proof, given their combination of
5/5/5 Murphy ends, fishbelly u/f, and Andrews trucks, I believe
these cars may have originally been USRA DS 40-ton boxcars. One
possible weak link in my speculation are the trucks, since obviously
these were used under many cars unrelated to the USRA usage. However
Andrews trucks were very rare for FGE. In fact this is only group I
am aware of equipped with Andrews owned by FGE. Within the FGE/WFE/
BRE System, Burlington Refrigerator did use Andrews. I know of no
usage of this type by WFE. FGE however was a thrifty company and it
makes since to me they would not have replaced a perfectly good truck
if it was not necessary so I think that ends, underframes and trucks
all came on the original cars, wherever they came from and whatever
their source.

It would strengthen my argument if I could identify a plausible
Railroad source for these 140 rebuilds but in going through the
various articles and most recently the RP CYC articles and tables, I
cannot seem to find a possible source. I have long thought the 5/5/5
Murphy end was unique to the USRA boxcars but maybe not, meaning
perhaps other possible sources for these rebuilds.

I thought I would see if anyone on this list has a good scenario for
the origins of these cars? Maybe I have overlooked an owner of USRA
DS cars who disposed of 140 cars sometime in the early or mid 1930's.

Bill,

This photo reminds me of the mechanical refrigerator built for the
Western Indian Fruit Company WIF 800, which seems to based upon a
similar rebuilding of a USRA DS box car although the ends differ from
that illustrated in the book "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet". The
caption states these cars first appeared in 1938. Looking at the summary
of freight cars built for the years 1936-1938, I find no listings for
refrigerator car orders placed by the Fruit Growers Express.

Below are the links to these photos of WIF 800 from the Florida Railroad
web site.

Main page: http://www.flarr.com/fgeco.htm

FEC Picture #005 <http://www.flarr.com/wifsc1.htm>
West India Fruit & Steamship Co. - Mechanical Refrigerator Car. View 1

FEC Picture #006 <http://www.flarr.com/wifsc2.htm>
West India Fruit & Steamship Co. - Mechanical Refrigerator Car. View 2

The photo captions state that this rebuild occurred in 1957.

Regards,

Bob Witt


Re: A C&BT Shops Fe-26 lives...finally

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Charles Hostetler wrote:
Actually, I'm trying to learn about the "Stop this Car" portion of a waybill, and I was wondering if anyone might comment on whether this feature was commonly used or if it was more of an oddball/oddity/special case. I'm trying to decide whether to incorporate that section in my model waybill form, but unless it was a real staple of prototype operations I think I'd prefer to keep it simple.
My understanding is that it was not common, but certainly was used. I have included it in the waybills I designed for Otis McGee's layout, and examples are shown in several of my blog posts. Here's one:

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2011/08/waybills-11.html

although the waybills shown on the post don't have the "Stop At" sections in use. We do have a few (less than a dozen) waybills which use the "Stop At" in action on Otis's layout, out of a couple hundred waybills, so there aren't TOO many of them. In fact, that creates a problem sometimes, because crews forget to consult that part of the bill when switching.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


machine screws

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Was in a hobby shop the other day and saw one of those racks with cute little bags of machine screws, costing several bucks for 8 screws (I won't mention the name of the packager, but many will know who I mean). It reminded me that you can buy them at $2.50 for 100 screws, in all the right model railroad sizes and lengths, from Micro Fasteners (www.microfasteners.com). I have no affiliation with or stake in them, I just buy from them on-line. I'm all for supporting the LHS, but not to this extent.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history

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