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New Sunshine ATSF Sk-M/O

Jim Hayes
 

I've been asked about the new Sunshine Sk-M/O and all I can say is
huh? I have no info about it.

Has the SFRH&MS convention occurred yet? If so was Sunshine there with
new kits? If anyone has flyers about the meet or about new kits would
you please scan them and send me a copy. I like to be up to date but
maybe this time I'm a little behind.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: THE NEW WESTERFIELD... INFO?

William Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Hello Pierre and Group,

This is indeed good news.

I have been preparing a wish list. It appears that it is now time to get serious and do fiscal appropriations and funding.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Jul 23, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Pierre wrote:

I was in communication with the new owner just the other day and he indicated that he is hoping for August. There will be a newsletter when the time comes.
Pierre OLiver

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "William" <wakeene@...> wrote:

Hello Group,

Has anyone on the list received an update on when the new Westerfield will again be accepting orders?

Thanks.

Cheers and Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


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Re: Speedwitch Instructions needed

Justin May <jmay59@...>
 

List,
Kindly please disregard my request as I've since located them. Please excuse the bandwidth usage,

Justin May


Re: THE NEW WESTERFIELD... INFO?

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Pierre Oliver wrote:
I was in communication with the new owner just the other day and he indicated that he is hoping for August. There will be a newsletter when the time comes.
Only 10 days away. Good to hear.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: THE NEW WESTERFIELD... INFO?

O Fenton Wells
 

That's good news.
fenton wells

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Pierre <pierre.oliver@start.ca> wrote:

**


I was in communication with the new owner just the other day and he
indicated that he is hoping for August. There will be a newsletter when the
time comes.
Pierre OLiver

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "William" <wakeene@...> wrote:

Hello Group,

Has anyone on the list received an update on when the new Westerfield
will again be accepting orders?

Thanks.

Cheers and Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



--
Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@gmail.com


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Re: THE NEW WESTERFIELD... INFO?

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

I was in communication with the new owner just the other day and he indicated that he is hoping for August. There will be a newsletter when the time comes.
Pierre OLiver

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "William" <wakeene@...> wrote:

Hello Group,

Has anyone on the list received an update on when the new Westerfield will again be accepting orders?

Thanks.

Cheers and Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


Re: THE NEW WESTERFIELD... INFO?

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Keene asked:
"Has anyone on the list received an update on when the new Westerfield will
again

be accepting orders?"

I have not, but I received my final order under Al's watch 4 weeks ago.  I was
one of the guys who procrastinated until the last day if that's a helpful data
point.


Ben Hom


THE NEW WESTERFIELD... INFO?

William <wakeene@...>
 

Hello Group,

Has anyone on the list received an update on when the new Westerfield will again be accepting orders?

Thanks.

Cheers and Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


Speedwitch Instructions needed

Justin May <jmay59@...>
 

List,
I am constructing a Speedwitch USRA Georgia rebuild kit (K127) and have misplaced my instructions. Would anyone with this kit be willing to scan the prototype/instruction sheets for me? If you have a set and are willing and able, please contact me off-list at jmay59@tampabay.rr.com .

Thank you in advance.
Justin May


Re: Central Vermont hopper cars

Marty McGuirk
 

Hi Armand,

I'd say "pretty close" but I don't have the exact measurements in front of me to confirm that.

I do know the GLa is a better starting point (it's what I use for mine - see MRH ISsue #1) for one of these than the USRA twins that most people use. The USRA cars are obviously too large.

I neglected to mention the author (Steve Horsley)in my earlier post.

Thanks Steve, for your efforts on this piece.

Marty

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Armand Premo" <armprem2@...> wrote:

How close are they dimensionally speaking to the Pennsy's GLas?Armand Premo





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Re: Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar

Scott Pitzer
 

I vote for the black door being "a nice touch for the photo" not representative of reality-- like the picture of me at age three, wearing a straw "Chinese coolie hat."
C&O, for example, seemed to have had more black boxcar doors in builders photos, than in real life.
Scott Pitzer

On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:17 AM, "railsnw@frontier.com" <railsnw@frontier.com> wrote:

Would that be black paint or black car cement? I would think the car cement would be a dull black.

Richard Wilkens

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@...> wrote:

While I agree that the builder's photos show black doors on this series of
cars, I can't recall any in service photos of RI single sheathed boxcars
(and I have a bunch!) showing doors in a different color. Nor does any
Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar





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Re: Central Vermont hopper cars

Armand Premo
 

How close are they dimensionally speaking to the Pennsy's GLas?Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: Marty McGuirk
To: STMFC ; CV RR
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:00 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Central Vermont hopper cars





To those who might be interested, there's an excellent, detailed article on the Central Vermont's 30000/20000-series twin hoppers in the latest issue of the Central Vermont Railway Historical Society Ambassador. Although the CV's boxcars are fairly well-documented, the hopper cars, some of which went through 3 or 4 rebuildings over the years, have not been covered as well in print. Well worth reading.

Also included are some roster shots dating from 1963 or so of a number of pieces of CV and StJ&LC M-of-W equipment from George Melvin.

Marty McGuirk


Re: Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar

railsnw@frontier.com <railsnw@...>
 

Would that be black paint or black car cement? I would think the car cement would be a dull black.

Richard Wilkens

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@...> wrote:

While I agree that the builder's photos show black doors on this series of
cars, I can't recall any in service photos of RI single sheathed boxcars
(and I have a bunch!) showing doors in a different color. Nor does any
paint spec call for them to be painted black. So, for an in-service boxcar,
I would lean strongly towards painting the doors the same color as the
sides. The specs refer to "standard freight car color" but without defining
a specific brand or color chip. I like a medium tuscan boxcar red and use a
50:50 mix of Modelflex Light and Dark Tuscan Oxide reds.



Regards,

Steve Hile



_____

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tmolsen@...
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:44 AM
To: StMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar





Gary,

You may want to take a look at the Freight Car Department portion of the
Illinois Railway Museum website as there is a restored Single Sheathed 50'
Double Door Auto Car with the black doors, black ends and mineral red sides.
Here is a link that works to bring the photo up:

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2004112914261610771.jpg
<http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2004112914261610771.jpg&bydate%3A
2> &bydate%3A2

I should think that the paint would be the same as that of the Sunshine RI
XM-1 kit. This appears to be a fresh mineral red. Perhaps Tony Thompson or
Richard Hendrickson could confirm this.

Regards,

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@... <mailto:tmolsen%40udel.edu>









Central Vermont hopper cars

Marty McGuirk
 

To those who might be interested, there's an excellent, detailed article on the Central Vermont's 30000/20000-series twin hoppers in the latest issue of the Central Vermont Railway Historical Society Ambassador. Although the CV's boxcars are fairly well-documented, the hopper cars, some of which went through 3 or 4 rebuildings over the years, have not been covered as well in print. Well worth reading.



Also included are some roster shots dating from 1963 or so of a number of pieces of CV and StJ&LC M-of-W equipment from George Melvin.



Marty McGuirk


Re: Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar

Steve and Barb Hile
 

While I agree that the builder's photos show black doors on this series of
cars, I can't recall any in service photos of RI single sheathed boxcars
(and I have a bunch!) showing doors in a different color. Nor does any
paint spec call for them to be painted black. So, for an in-service boxcar,
I would lean strongly towards painting the doors the same color as the
sides. The specs refer to "standard freight car color" but without defining
a specific brand or color chip. I like a medium tuscan boxcar red and use a
50:50 mix of Modelflex Light and Dark Tuscan Oxide reds.



Regards,

Steve Hile



_____

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tmolsen@UDel.Edu
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:44 AM
To: StMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fwd: [STMFC] Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar





Gary,

You may want to take a look at the Freight Car Department portion of the
Illinois Railway Museum website as there is a restored Single Sheathed 50'
Double Door Auto Car with the black doors, black ends and mineral red sides.
Here is a link that works to bring the photo up:

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2004112914261610771.jpg
<http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2004112914261610771.jpg&bydate%3A
2> &bydate%3A2

I should think that the paint would be the same as that of the Sunshine RI
XM-1 kit. This appears to be a fresh mineral red. Perhaps Tony Thompson or
Richard Hendrickson could confirm this.

Regards,

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu <mailto:tmolsen%40udel.edu>


More Data from "American Commodity Flows"

Charles Hostetler <cesicjh@...>
 

For those interested, I've finished the transcription of the information in Ullman's book "American Commodity Flows". The transcription is a look at the tons of freight rail traffic originating in and terminating in 21 states in 1948 through 1950, grouped into major commodity groupings. Some commentary, and the data for each state can be found at:

Commentary:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/my-perspective-on-ullman-work.html

Arizona:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-arizona.html

Arkansas:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-arkansas.html

Connecticut:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from_18.html

Iowa:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-iowa.html

Kentucky:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-kentucky.html

Louisiana:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-louisiana.html

Maine:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-maine.html

Mississippi:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from_21.html

Montana:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-montana.html

New Mexico:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-new_17.html

New Jersey:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-new.html

Ohio:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-ohio.html

Oklahoma:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-oklahoma.html

Oregon:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-oregon.html

Pennsylvania:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from_22.html

Tennessee:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-tennessee.html

Utah:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-utah.html

Vermont and New Hampshire (I don't know why he combined these, but there your are...)
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-vermont.html

Washington:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from.html

Wyoming:
http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/07/railroad-shipments-to-and-from-wyoming.html




I've applied all of these posts with the tag "Commodity Flow" so it's possible to access them quickly that way.

I've not heard of any troubles getting the information in the tables; but please feel free to drop me an eMail if you would like the original Excel files.

Regards,
Charles Hostetler


Re: Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

The referenced Ilinois RAilroad Museum site has some great p;ictures of this car.
I have done this car without the end doors. My car was initailly painted boxcar red
with a black roof and red roof walk. I have also seen this car done in solid boxcar
red. I would like to repaintg the car with black ends and doors. I wonder, however,
if this scheem was reserved for cars with end doors.

Help please:

Bill Pardie

On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Rich C wrote:

I can't agree more! I am surprised that no one has made this 9 panel Howe Truss car. There was a kitbash article way back in 1980 Winter Model Railroading magazine at Trainlife.

The only way at the moment for a kitbash is a couple of Accurail #7100 kits and a pair of Central Valley radial roofs for starters. Sylvan makes the auto car door end, the 3/3 Dreadnaught?

Rich Christie


________________________________
From: Don <riverman_vt@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [STMFC] Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar





--- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Gary,

You may want to take a look at the Freight Car Department portion of the Illinois Railway Museum website as there is a restored Single Sheathed 50' Double Door Auto Car with the black doors, black ends and mineral red sides. Here is a link that works to bring the photo up:

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2004112914261610771.jpg&bydate%3A2

I should think that the paint would be the same as that of the Sunshine RI XM-1 kit. This appears to be a fresh mineral red. Perhaps Tony Thompson or Richard Hendrickson could confirm this.
What a truly beautiful restoration!!! This goes right along with the equally well done Rutland and B&M 40 ft. double and single sheated, respectively, restoration at the Strasburg RR. in Pennsylvania. Nice to see such cars.

Cordially, Don Valentine

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Re: loyal customers of Sunshine/Ted Cullotta

ed_mines
 

Glad to see some others agree with me.

Whoever included Martin with Ted and professor/doctor Hendrickson is right. Sorry for my oversight. And Al Westerfield too.

And thanks to the many others too - Tony, Bob Hundman, Bob Weaver, Mike Brock, Rich Burg, Bob from Bob's photos, Dennis Storzak ......

If one of these guys slips a little it's OK with me. All give much more than they receive.

I've been screwed over much worse - remember hobbies for men in Beacon, NY?

Ed Mines


Re: Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar

Rich C
 

Rob, I totally forgot about their 50'ers. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
Rich Christie


________________________________
From: Rob Adams <steamera@netins.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [STMFC] Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar



 

Rich;

Actually. A kit does exist for this car in HO. See the Rocket Express
web site.

<http://rocketexpress.biz/rocket_express_008.htm>

Kind regards,

Rob Adams
Wellman, IA

On 7/22/12 1:30 PM, Rich C wrote:

I can't agree more! I am surprised that no one has made this 9 panel
Howe Truss car. There was a kitbash article way back in 1980 Winter
Model Railroading magazine at Trainlife.

The only way at the moment for a kitbash is a couple of Accurail #7100
kits and a pair of Central Valley radial roofs for starters. Sylvan
makes the auto car door end, the 3/3 Dreadnaught?

Rich Christie


________________________________
From: Don <mailto:riverman_vt%40yahoo.com <mailto:riverman_vt%40yahoo.com>>
To: mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [STMFC] Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar





--- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Gary,

You may want to take a look at the Freight Car Department portion of
the Illinois Railway Museum website as there is a restored Single
Sheathed 50' Double Door Auto Car with the black doors, black ends and
mineral red sides. Here is a link that works to bring the photo up:

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2004112914261610771.jpg&bydate%3A2

I should think that the paint would be the same as that of the
Sunshine RI XM-1 kit. This appears to be a fresh mineral red. Perhaps
Tony Thompson or Richard Hendrickson could confirm this.

What a truly beautiful restoration!!! This goes right along with the
equally well done Rutland and B&M 40 ft. double and single sheated,
respectively, restoration at the Strasburg RR. in Pennsylvania. Nice
to see such cars.

Cordially, Don Valentine

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Re: Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar

Rob Adams
 

Rich;

Actually. A kit does exist for this car in HO. See the Rocket Express
web site.

<http://rocketexpress.biz/rocket_express_008.htm>

Kind regards,

Rob Adams
Wellman, IA

On 7/22/12 1:30 PM, Rich C wrote:

I can't agree more! I am surprised that no one has made this 9 panel
Howe Truss car. There was a kitbash article way back in 1980 Winter
Model Railroading magazine at Trainlife.

The only way at the moment for a kitbash is a couple of Accurail #7100
kits and a pair of Central Valley radial roofs for starters. Sylvan
makes the auto car door end, the 3/3 Dreadnaught?

Rich Christie


________________________________
From: Don <riverman_vt@yahoo.com <mailto:riverman_vt%40yahoo.com>>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [STMFC] Sunshine kit #91.2 RI XM-1 Boxcar





--- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, <tmolsen@...> wrote:

Gary,

You may want to take a look at the Freight Car Department portion of
the Illinois Railway Museum website as there is a restored Single
Sheathed 50' Double Door Auto Car with the black doors, black ends and
mineral red sides. Here is a link that works to bring the photo up:

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2004112914261610771.jpg&bydate%3A2

I should think that the paint would be the same as that of the
Sunshine RI XM-1 kit. This appears to be a fresh mineral red. Perhaps
Tony Thompson or Richard Hendrickson could confirm this.

What a truly beautiful restoration!!! This goes right along with the
equally well done Rutland and B&M 40 ft. double and single sheated,
respectively, restoration at the Strasburg RR. in Pennsylvania. Nice
to see such cars.

Cordially, Don Valentine

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