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Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "webotkin" <webotkin@...> wrote:

Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than "standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO

Don't really think you want the short wheelbase trucks being suggested here. Can't put my hands on my National Fitch drawings right at the moment but believe the correct axle spacing was 7 ft. How about trucks from the Walthers 52 ft. General American express reefers and GPEX milk tank cars? They have either 7 or 8 ft. axle spacing and may be your best bet. Certainly even an 8 ft. spacing would look better than 5 ft. under the NX cars.

Cordially, Don Valentine
Re: Accurail model list

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Richard Hendrickson wrote a two-part article in the February and April 1993 issues of Railmodel Journal that addressed prototypes for the Accurail 4000-4100-4200-4300-4400-4500 series single-sheathed box cars. These articles can be found at
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/model-train-magazine-index

Gene Green
Re: Pinging Jerry Glow

O Fenton Wells
 

Guys, he must be on vacation, or living at The Villages, still partying,
but I had an email from him last week.
Fenton Wells

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:01 AM, al_brown03 <abrown@...> wrote:

**


Um ... me too.

Apologies,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., Craig Zeni <clzeni@...> wrote:


On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:44 AM, STMFC@... wrote:
1. Pinging Jerry Glow
Posted by: "Allen Cain" allencain@... allen_cain
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:48 am ((PDT))

Jerry, please contact me off list. Emails to your address are not being
answered.
Jerry, add my name to this request as well…


Craig Zeni
Cary NC



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Re: Airbrush question

Douglas Harding
 

Mark, Badger now makes an airbrush with a gravity cup that will swivel down
for a siphon feed by attaching a bottle. Can't recall, but Iwata may have
one as well. I have Pashaa, Badger & Iwata airbrushes, single and double
action. All are siphon feed, ie from the bottle. As I paint exclusively
acrylics, I use the Iwata Revolution or Badger Antham 155, which have needle
designs for Acrylics.



I have heard folks who prefer the gravity feed vs siphon. Not sure you will
get a clear answer.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org
Re: Pinging Jerry Glow

al_brown03
 

Um ... me too.

Apologies,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., Craig Zeni <clzeni@...> wrote:


On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:44 AM, STMFC@... wrote:
1. Pinging Jerry Glow
Posted by: "Allen Cain" allencain@... allen_cain
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:48 am ((PDT))

Jerry, please contact me off list. Emails to your address are not being
answered.
Jerry, add my name to this request as well…


Craig Zeni
Cary NC
Re: Accurail model list

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Well, Jared, there are two, at least, in the files area.



One of them is my inquiry into accurate prototypes for the various versions
of the Accurail 41' gon. Look in Files for Accurail 41' gon.xls



"spalso" started a list, apparently, titled "Prototypes for the HO Models?"
though that doesn't list an Accurail product.



Might be some others in there, but I know of those two.



Schuyler







From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
JaredH
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:31 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Accurail model list





I thought someone on this list looked at the Accurail kits to determine
which ones are prototypical with what paint and lettering schemes. I scanned
the files but didn't see a list there. Is there such a list?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA
Accurail model list

Jared Harper
 

I thought someone on this list looked at the Accurail kits to determine which ones are prototypical with what paint and lettering schemes. I scanned the files but didn't see a list there. Is there such a list?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA
Re: Airbrush question

ronald parisi
 

Group:
I use a double action gravity feed brush. I have a few different size cups
and find mixing small amounts of color especially for weathering
a definite plus. My brushes are all Thayer & Chandler. I just had them all
professionally refurbished. The only one they could not do because of lack
of parts was a 1946 T&C model that I inherited in 1967 and had to stop
using two years ago. Keep em clean, and any of them will give you years of
service. And learn how to use it.

Ron Parisi

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:19 PM, atsfnut <michaelEGross@...> wrote:

**


Hello, Friends!
My two cents: I've used the Paasche Model H single action, external mix
brush since 1976, with excellent results. That being said, I recently
acquired a Badger single-action internal mix brush (Model 200NH) and did
some fine painting with Modelflex. Rarely do I keep large amounts of
paint in bottles, as I like to vary "freight car reds" and Santa Fe
Mineral Browns to avoid that "cookie cutter look."
Many fine scale modelers swear by the gravity feed brushes, as it allows
one to paint at lower pressures, which is particularly when it comes to
fine weathering. I've not found a gravity feed necessary, but they have
their place. Whatever brush you choose, get to know it. "Play" with it
on an inexpensive swap meet model before painting your Sunshine kit.
And do filter that paint, particularly if it is acrylic.
Cheers!
Michael GrossLa Cañada, CA

--- In STMFC@..., "Steve Sandifer" <steve.sandifer@...>
wrote:


For most car painting I use the cup. The only time I use the bottle is
if I have a large amount to paint of the same color, a large amount.
Nearly everything I do is custom mixed, using eyedroppers for mixtures.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston,
TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark at Euphoriatt
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Airbrush question



Good Morning,

I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want
to keep
sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting
friends.
I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as
single
and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is
what do
experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a
siphon-fed
under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions.

Regards

Mark Stamm

<mailto:mark@... mark@...

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in 1949

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Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Bill Schneider
 

Bill,

If I remember correctly I used BCW #129 Erie express trucks on my car...

Bill Schneider

From: webotkin
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars


Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than "standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO





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Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

midrly <midrly@...>
 

Athearn/Roundhouse 90387 trucks might work. They ar a 5'4" wheelbase four-wheel truck with metal wheelsets.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., RUTLANDRS@... wrote:

Bioo,
Check _www.bethlehemcarworks.com_ (http://www.bethlehemcarworks.com)
at the end of Kit Bits. He has the old Cape Line trucks.
Chuck Hladik


In a message dated 7/29/2012 4:24:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
webotkin@... writes:




Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank
Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have
the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks
that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield
milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in
passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than
"standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO






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Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Charles Hladik
 

Bioo,
Check _www.bethlehemcarworks.com_ (http://www.bethlehemcarworks.com)
at the end of Kit Bits. He has the old Cape Line trucks.
Chuck Hladik

In a message dated 7/29/2012 4:24:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
webotkin@... writes:




Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank
Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have
the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks
that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield
milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in
passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than
"standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO






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Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Don Burn
 

They were typically the same trucks as most express reefers at least some of
them were 6 foot wheelbase, and in at least one case there were Allied Full
Cushion trucks under one of the NX cars.

Don Burn

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
webotkin
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank
Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have
the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks
that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield
milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in passenger
and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than
"standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO



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Swift 15000-15799 reefers

Richard Townsend
 

Does anyone know of a source for dimensioned drawings of the Swift 15000-15799 steel shorty reefers?


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon
Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

webotkin
 

Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than "standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO
Re: Airbrush question

atsfnut <michaelEGross@...>
 

Hello, Friends!
My two cents: I've used the Paasche Model H single action, external mix
brush since 1976, with excellent results. That being said, I recently
acquired a Badger single-action internal mix brush (Model 200NH) and did
some fine painting with Modelflex. Rarely do I keep large amounts of
paint in bottles, as I like to vary "freight car reds" and Santa Fe
Mineral Browns to avoid that "cookie cutter look."
Many fine scale modelers swear by the gravity feed brushes, as it allows
one to paint at lower pressures, which is particularly when it comes to
fine weathering. I've not found a gravity feed necessary, but they have
their place. Whatever brush you choose, get to know it. "Play" with it
on an inexpensive swap meet model before painting your Sunshine kit.
And do filter that paint, particularly if it is acrylic.
Cheers!
Michael GrossLa Cañada, CA


--- In STMFC@..., "Steve Sandifer" <steve.sandifer@...>
wrote:

For most car painting I use the cup. The only time I use the bottle is
if I have a large amount to paint of the same color, a large amount.
Nearly everything I do is custom mixed, using eyedroppers for mixtures.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston,
TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark at Euphoriatt
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Airbrush question



Good Morning,

I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want
to keep
sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting
friends.
I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as
single
and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is
what do
experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a
siphon-fed
under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions.

Regards

Mark Stamm

<mailto:mark@... mark@...

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in 1949

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Re: Advice Regarding Best Adhesives

nvrr49 <nvrr49@...>
 

For a non-solvent contact cement, I would recomend Liquid Nails LN-201, http://tinyurl.com/ckzuncu . I use it all the time, never had an issue. Full discloser, I used to receive a pay check from Liquid Nails. It is less agressive than Goo, slower setting, thinner, less tacky.

Kent Hurley
KC, MO

--- In STMFC@..., "frograbbit602" <frograbbit602@...> wrote:

Contact cements have been suggested. I have not seen or missed it mentioned that contact cements come in two types: solvent base such as Walthers Goo, Piobond, etc. and water base. I have purchased the water base types at wookworking stores. For metal to wood I would use a contact type. For styrene to metal I would use the water base type. Not the solvent type as the solvent types normally contain acetone which attacks sytrene.

Transfer tape was suggested. As for a good model transfer adhesive I suggest 3M 565 tape which is available at art stores. I use it to attach paper items, such shingles to styrene, all the time. As another person stated the beauty of the transfer tape is there is no warpping.

Lester Breuer



--- In STMFC@..., "DaveS" <sartherdj@> wrote:

STMFC Members,

I would like to bond some flat pieces of .030 Evergreen styrene to a smooth flat brass surface. Any recommendations? Best practice to prepare brass and styrene surfaces for a good secure, long lasting bond?

I would also like to bond some flat pieces of .030 laser cut wood to a smooth flat brass surface. Any recommendations? Best practice to prepare brass and wood surfaces for good secure long lasting bond?

I attempted a test to see if ACC would hold in these situations. I ACC'd the materials in place and allowed to dry for 12 hours. Then I tried to see how easy it would be to separate the styrene and wood from the brass surface. In both cases they just popped right off the brass surface after a bit of pressure was applied.

Thanks in advance, Dave Sarther Tucson, AZ
Re: Pinging Jerry Glow

Craig Zeni
 

On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:44 AM, STMFC@... wrote:
1. Pinging Jerry Glow
Posted by: "Allen Cain" allencain@... allen_cain
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:48 am ((PDT))

Jerry, please contact me off list. Emails to your address are not being
answered.
Jerry, add my name to this request as well…


Craig Zeni
Cary NC
Re: Airbrush question

Steve SANDIFER
 

For most car painting I use the cup. The only time I use the bottle is if I have a large amount to paint of the same color, a large amount. Nearly everything I do is custom mixed, using eyedroppers for mixtures.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark at Euphoriatt
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Airbrush question



Good Morning,

I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want to keep
sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting friends.
I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as single
and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is what do
experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a siphon-fed
under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions.

Regards

Mark Stamm

<mailto:mark@...> mark@...

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in 1949
Re: Airbrush question

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

Mark...

I'm on the road and can't give you a lot of details but after 30+ years of using Badger double-action air brushes, I bought an Iwata gravity-feed brush a couple of years ago. I use only Floquil enamels and one of the advantages is that you don't need to dilute Floquil with this brush. Not to dump on Andy, but I have not had issues with the gravity feed. Send me any e-mail and I can give you a model number but it is great for an overall first coat of a freight car as well as weathering.

Jack Burgess

On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:15 AM, "Mark at Euphoriatt" <mark@...> wrote:

Good Morning,



I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want to keep
sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting friends.
I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as single
and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is what do
experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a siphon-fed
under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions.



Regards



Mark Stamm

<mailto:mark@...> mark@...

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in 1949





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Re: Airbrush question

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

I've been using my internal mix double action Paasche since around 1986 or
so with great results. Basic differences in design such as single or double
action and internal of external mix can make fo some rather obvious
differences in performance, most of the high quality brushes of similar
design will perform quite similarly depending on the individual users
personal likes.



John Hagen



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
JaredH
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Airbrush question





I agree with Nelson although I would choose the Iwata double action. I have
a new Paasche single action set in the box I will sell.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA




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