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Re: Accurail model list

Bill Welch
 

This little set of parts is one of the best kept secrets in our hobby, the quality is equivalent of Cannon & Company. I keep waiting for kits #1001, #1002, #1003, ....

Bill Welch


Gene and all,

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a
1 & 1/2 door boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 parts that you can find under the New England Rail Service listings in the Walthers catalog. The parts offered enable the modeler to convert the Accurail car into a fully accurate GTW car or a more "generic" 1 1/2 door car witout moving the stiffening brace cast onto the model, for those who are intimidated by such work. Certainly no one on this list! VBG It also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the 1/2 door and other parts one might want.

Excuse my crass commercialism.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Accurail model list

Aley, Jeff A
 

Jared,

See messages 87336 (!!) 87355, and 87359:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/87336
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/87355
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/87359

Regards,

-Jeff


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of JaredH
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:31 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Accurail model list



I thought someone on this list looked at the Accurail kits to determine which ones are prototypical with what paint and lettering schemes. I scanned the files but didn't see a list there. Is there such a list?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: Accurail model list

jerryglow2
 

Has a similar article (or any) been done on the 6 panel car?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

Richard Hendrickson wrote a two-part article in the February and April 1993 issues of Railmodel Journal that addressed prototypes for the Accurail 4000-4100-4200-4300-4400-4500 series single-sheathed box cars. These articles can be found at
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/model-train-magazine-index

Gene Green


Reweigh Light Weight

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Could any scale be used to check the light weight of a freight car?

Did scales for the reweighing of freight cars have to meet some special or more stringent standards?

Was it required that a qualified or high-ranking official reweigh a freight car or supervise reweighing?

Gene Green


Re: Accurail model list

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Don" <riverman_vt@...> wrote:

Gene and all,

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a
1 & 1/2 door boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 parts that you can find under the New England Rail Service listings in the Walthers catalog. The parts offered enable the modeler to convert the Accurail car into a fully accurate GTW car or a more "generic" 1 1/2 door car witout moving the stiffening brace cast onto the model, for those who are intimidated by such work. Certainly no one on this list! VBG It also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the 1/2 door and other parts one might want.

Excuse my crass commercialism.

Cordially, Don Valentine
Don,
Thanks for adding the clarification.
Gene Green


Re: Pinging Jerry Glow

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

GOOD NEWS!



I heard from Jerry today so all is well, thankfully!



Allen Cain


Re: Pinging Jerry Glow

jerryglow2
 

I unsuccessfully tried to get away from it for a few days. I will be contacting people and or sending out work ASAP

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Guys, he must be on vacation, or living at The Villages, still partying,
but I had an email from him last week.
Fenton Wells

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:01 AM, al_brown03 <abrown@...> wrote:

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Um ... me too.

Apologies,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., Craig Zeni <clzeni@> wrote:


On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:44 AM, STMFC@... wrote:
1. Pinging Jerry Glow
Posted by: "Allen Cain" allencain@ allen_cain
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:48 am ((PDT))

Jerry, please contact me off list. Emails to your address are not being
answered.
Jerry, add my name to this request as well…


Craig Zeni
Cary NC



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Fenton Wells
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Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Malcolm H. Houck
 

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co.
reporting marks that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's,
Dairyman's League or Sheffield milk tanks.

Users of these "demountable" tanks also included Muller Dairies
(shipping over the NYO&W from Norwich), and also Jetter Diary
in at least a short term experimental trial.

Sheffield shipped its fluid milk primarily in GPEX tank cars, both
leased ("GPEX") and owned outright ("SFCX"). shippers using
demoutable tanks generally were those located such that a
truck link was needed from rail to processing plant" --
(Muller - east side of Hudson from rail destination at
Weehawken, NJ) (Jetter - also East side of Hudson -
Bronx) and (Renkin's - Brooklyn, with fluid milk from
western Connecticut).

Most Sheffield plants were located immediately on
sidings so that a truck link was not needed at least
for the inbound fluid milk, and therefore did not make
use of demountable tanks, if at all.

While the N.X. BMT cars were indeed "basically flat
cars" they were quite specially appointed. Some had
end railings (some did not). There were cars for the
twin 3,000 gallon tanks (as are the F&C models and
earlier brass offerings from OMI), but also 40' cars
for a single 4,000 gallon tank (most commonly used
by Borden's). Some cars were equipped fro passenger
train service with steam and signal lines, but some were
not. All cars were lacking stake pockets and had flush
folding bracket on the sides for tying down the truck
rack and chain driven unloading apparatus on the
trans - ship trucks.

Mal Houck


Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Phillip Blancher <pblancher@...>
 

I have a set of brass trucks which I believe are Overland. Stock
number T-018. These are NYC/B&A 4-Wheel Suburban Trucks. I bought
these from Bill Badger a few months ago and if you remove the outside
brake beams and cut the frame closer to the journals it looks like the
trucks used on the NX Flats. That being said I also saw a picture of
one of the NX Flats with a different set of trucks that did have
outside brake beams.

Phil


On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Don <riverman_vt@...> wrote:


--- In STMFC@..., "webotkin" <webotkin@...> wrote:

Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than "standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO

Don't really think you want the short wheelbase trucks being suggested here. Can't put my hands on my National Fitch drawings right at the moment but believe the correct axle spacing was 7 ft. How about trucks from the Walthers 52 ft. General American express reefers and GPEX milk tank cars? They have either 7 or 8 ft. axle spacing and may be your best bet. Certainly even an 8 ft. spacing would look better than 5 ft. under the NX cars.

Cordially, Don Valentine



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Re: Accurail model list

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

Richard Hendrickson wrote a two-part article in the February and April 1993 issues of Railmodel Journal that addressed prototypes for the Accurail 4000-4100-4200-4300-4400-4500 series single-sheathed box cars. These articles can be found at
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/model-train-magazine-index

Gene Green

Gene and all,

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a
1 & 1/2 door boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 parts that you can find under the New England Rail Service listings in the Walthers catalog. The parts offered enable the modeler to convert the Accurail car into a fully accurate GTW car or a more "generic" 1 1/2 door car witout moving the stiffening brace cast onto the model, for those who are intimidated by such work. Certainly no one on this list! VBG It also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the 1/2 door and other parts one might want.

Excuse my crass commercialism.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "webotkin" <webotkin@...> wrote:

Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than "standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO

Don't really think you want the short wheelbase trucks being suggested here. Can't put my hands on my National Fitch drawings right at the moment but believe the correct axle spacing was 7 ft. How about trucks from the Walthers 52 ft. General American express reefers and GPEX milk tank cars? They have either 7 or 8 ft. axle spacing and may be your best bet. Certainly even an 8 ft. spacing would look better than 5 ft. under the NX cars.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Accurail model list

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Richard Hendrickson wrote a two-part article in the February and April 1993 issues of Railmodel Journal that addressed prototypes for the Accurail 4000-4100-4200-4300-4400-4500 series single-sheathed box cars. These articles can be found at
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/model-train-magazine-index

Gene Green


Re: Pinging Jerry Glow

O Fenton Wells
 

Guys, he must be on vacation, or living at The Villages, still partying,
but I had an email from him last week.
Fenton Wells

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:01 AM, al_brown03 <abrown@...> wrote:

**


Um ... me too.

Apologies,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., Craig Zeni <clzeni@...> wrote:


On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:44 AM, STMFC@... wrote:
1. Pinging Jerry Glow
Posted by: "Allen Cain" allencain@... allen_cain
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:48 am ((PDT))

Jerry, please contact me off list. Emails to your address are not being
answered.
Jerry, add my name to this request as well


Craig Zeni
Cary NC



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Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@...


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Re: Airbrush question

Douglas Harding
 

Mark, Badger now makes an airbrush with a gravity cup that will swivel down
for a siphon feed by attaching a bottle. Can't recall, but Iwata may have
one as well. I have Pashaa, Badger & Iwata airbrushes, single and double
action. All are siphon feed, ie from the bottle. As I paint exclusively
acrylics, I use the Iwata Revolution or Badger Antham 155, which have needle
designs for Acrylics.



I have heard folks who prefer the gravity feed vs siphon. Not sure you will
get a clear answer.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: Pinging Jerry Glow

al_brown03
 

Um ... me too.

Apologies,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., Craig Zeni <clzeni@...> wrote:


On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:44 AM, STMFC@... wrote:
1. Pinging Jerry Glow
Posted by: "Allen Cain" allencain@... allen_cain
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:48 am ((PDT))

Jerry, please contact me off list. Emails to your address are not being
answered.
Jerry, add my name to this request as well…


Craig Zeni
Cary NC


Re: Accurail model list

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Well, Jared, there are two, at least, in the files area.



One of them is my inquiry into accurate prototypes for the various versions
of the Accurail 41' gon. Look in Files for Accurail 41' gon.xls



"spalso" started a list, apparently, titled "Prototypes for the HO Models?"
though that doesn't list an Accurail product.



Might be some others in there, but I know of those two.



Schuyler







From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
JaredH
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:31 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Accurail model list





I thought someone on this list looked at the Accurail kits to determine
which ones are prototypical with what paint and lettering schemes. I scanned
the files but didn't see a list there. Is there such a list?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Accurail model list

Jared Harper
 

I thought someone on this list looked at the Accurail kits to determine which ones are prototypical with what paint and lettering schemes. I scanned the files but didn't see a list there. Is there such a list?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: Airbrush question

ronald parisi
 

Group:
I use a double action gravity feed brush. I have a few different size cups
and find mixing small amounts of color especially for weathering
a definite plus. My brushes are all Thayer & Chandler. I just had them all
professionally refurbished. The only one they could not do because of lack
of parts was a 1946 T&C model that I inherited in 1967 and had to stop
using two years ago. Keep em clean, and any of them will give you years of
service. And learn how to use it.

Ron Parisi

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:19 PM, atsfnut <michaelEGross@...> wrote:

**


Hello, Friends!
My two cents: I've used the Paasche Model H single action, external mix
brush since 1976, with excellent results. That being said, I recently
acquired a Badger single-action internal mix brush (Model 200NH) and did
some fine painting with Modelflex. Rarely do I keep large amounts of
paint in bottles, as I like to vary "freight car reds" and Santa Fe
Mineral Browns to avoid that "cookie cutter look."
Many fine scale modelers swear by the gravity feed brushes, as it allows
one to paint at lower pressures, which is particularly when it comes to
fine weathering. I've not found a gravity feed necessary, but they have
their place. Whatever brush you choose, get to know it. "Play" with it
on an inexpensive swap meet model before painting your Sunshine kit.
And do filter that paint, particularly if it is acrylic.
Cheers!
Michael GrossLa Caada, CA

--- In STMFC@..., "Steve Sandifer" <steve.sandifer@...>
wrote:


For most car painting I use the cup. The only time I use the bottle is
if I have a large amount to paint of the same color, a large amount.
Nearly everything I do is custom mixed, using eyedroppers for mixtures.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston,
TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark at Euphoriatt
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Airbrush question



Good Morning,

I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want
to keep
sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting
friends.
I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as
single
and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is
what do
experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a
siphon-fed
under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions.

Regards

Mark Stamm

<mailto:mark@... mark@...

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in 1949

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Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

Bill Schneider
 

Bill,

If I remember correctly I used BCW #129 Erie express trucks on my car...

Bill Schneider

From: webotkin
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars


Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than "standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO





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Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars

midrly <midrly@...>
 

Athearn/Roundhouse 90387 trucks might work. They ar a 5'4" wheelbase four-wheel truck with metal wheelsets.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., RUTLANDRS@... wrote:

Bioo,
Check _www.bethlehemcarworks.com_ (http://www.bethlehemcarworks.com)
at the end of Kit Bits. He has the old Cape Line trucks.
Chuck Hladik


In a message dated 7/29/2012 4:24:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
webotkin@... writes:




Can anyone help with a source for the correct trucks used on the Twin Tank
Milk Cars offered by Funaro & Camerlengo in HO? BCW doesn't appear to have
the correct design.

These cars are basically flat cars with National Car Co. reporting marks
that held two removable Borden's, Renkin's, Dairyman's League or Sheffield
milk tanks.

The truck design was a passenger type truck as they were hauled in
passenger and milk train consists. The wheelbase appears to be a bit shorter than
"standard" four-wheel passenger type trucks, however.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO






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