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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Bill Daniels <billinsf@...> wrote:
Beam is the width of the ship.
Bill Daniels
Seems like an odd term for that dimension but OK. I was imagining something more along the lines of "keel." Thanks to all who responded. Once again, ask and ye shall receive.
Gratefully,
Gene one-nautical-term-wiser Green


Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Rich Yoder
 

So we're looking at a 52' car with a boat that is 20' wide and 78' long.
It's an impressive photo and yes in "O" scale a car is available and a 1:48
scale boat kit is on the market.
For most of us this would be a model to sit on a siding :)
Rich Yoder

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northbaylines@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:41 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Yes they do and I've had one since 1965 or so, predating my interest in
trains circa 68. Modeling this combo would be an excellent reuse of a poorly
detailed heritage model (the PT) and a great fit with my current rail marine
interests.

The Tichy 40' flat might be a starting point for a dice & splice conversion
but I'd like a straight kit build if it is available.

John Barry

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

I don't know about the flat but Revell made a 1/96th scale of the Higgins
PT. I am not sure if they are still in production but they can be found.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., John Barry <northbaylines@> wrote:

An interesting wartime load.  Photo was taken at the Higgens shipyard in
Louisianna circa 1942 of PT201 on flat car SP 79571.  See the photo on my
blog at:
http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/2012/09/wartime-flat-car-loads-update_14.h
tml#!/2012/09/wartime-flat-car-loads-update_14.html
 
Does anyoe make a model of this 53 foot flat?

John Barry

ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Cotati, CA

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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Pieter Roos
 

It appears the Elcos were 80 ft, Higgins PTs where 78.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT_boat

Revell made a plastic Higgins PT in either 1/96 or 1/100 scale (references not clear), which might be usable.

http://www.building-model-boats.com/pt-boat-model.html

Pieter Roos
Connecticut

--- In STMFC@..., "Bruce F. Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:

50' in the photo, with lots of overlap!
Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

On 9/18/2012 11:18 AM, Bill Daniels wrote:
Beamis the width of the ship.
Just caught some of this but did look up PT boats, seems they were
at least 20' beam and 80' long. What flat were they on for the 80'?

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Re: Photo and negative collections

John C. La Rue, Jr. <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
 

I don't know for sure who is still buying negative collections these days, but I do know that I am not. The reason: no money.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL

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Out of curiosity, who's still buying negative collections these days.

Bill Hoss











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sp rotary snow plows

benjamin
 

I know this site is geared for freight cars but maybe someone knows where I can find plans and dimensions for SP Rotary Plows. The old Athearn is not right and the new Walther's is not right. It's frustrating looking at photos and not being able to build or kitbash a couple. I'd like to do one steam powered and one powered by an F7B snail.

Thanks for your help.

Ben Heinley bheinley@...
Denver, Co


Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Bruce Smith
 

50' in the photo, with lots of overlap!
Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

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From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of Jon Miller [atsf@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:06 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

On 9/18/2012 11:18 AM, Bill Daniels wrote:
Beamis the width of the ship.
Just caught some of this but did look up PT boats, seems they were
at least 20' beam and 80' long. What flat were they on for the 80'?

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS



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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

On 9/18/2012 11:18 AM, Bill Daniels wrote:
Beamis the width of the ship.
Just caught some of this but did look up PT boats, seems they were
at least 20' beam and 80' long. What flat were they on for the 80'?

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: ADMIN: Oddball Decals

Mikebrock
 

Since my inquiry of Sep 16 asking if anyone had received a decal from Oddballs Decals within the last 3 monyths, I regret to inform the group that no one has indicated that they had received any. And, there are currently 5 members who indicate that they not only have not received odered decals but they have taken action against Oddballs Decals.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
 

Beam is the width of the ship.

Bill Daniels

On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:52 AM, "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what?
Gene Green







Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Charles Hostetler <cesicjh@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what?
Gene Green

Hi Gene,

It's the width of a ship or boat at its widest point.

Regards,

Charles Hostetler


Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Overall width of the hull.



John Hagen



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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:52 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Photo of PT on SP flat





For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what?
Gene Green


Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Bruce Smith
 

Gene,

Beam of a vessel is equivalent to Extreme Width of a freight car, that is, the width at the widest part.


Regards

Bruce


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Auburn, AL

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On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Gene wrote:

For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what?
Gene Green


Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what?
Gene Green


Re: Photo of PT on SP flat

Brian Termunde
 

9b. Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Posted by: "Bruce F. Smith" smithbf@... smithbf36832
Date: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:52 am ((PDT))
Brian, Folks,
As I noted earlier, this isn't really a very good cargo for long-distance
ovement by rails due to the beam of these PR boats.


*******************************************************
Bruce,
I did note your valid comment regarding the PT boats, I've long had an interest in these craft (and their British counterparts, the MTB's). However, your suggesting regarding the LCVP's is indeed a great idea. My uncle ran one of these during WWII (including the landings at Guadalcanal), also when I was stationed at NAVSTA Guam, we had several former landing craft converted for various harbor duties in Apra Harbor.

Thanks for the suggestion!


Take Care,

Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT



"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


Re: Two Website of Possible Interest

Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
 

Thanks, Greg.

On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:54 PM, tgregmrtn@... wrote:

BILL,

I got this from Ed's friend Rob. Here's a link:

_http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?products_id=35_
(http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?products_id=35)

Then if you want Twin parallel cut buy this it is great for extracting say
a 4-inch section:

_http://www.umm-usa.com/catalog/tools_JLCEXT003.html_
(http://www.umm-usa.com/catalog/tools_JLCEXT003.html)

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:52:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
billinsf@... writes:

Hi Greg...

Now you've got my interest piqued... but which version of this saw do you
recommend?

Bill Daniels
San Francisco, CA

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From: "_tgregmrtn@... (mailto:tgregmrtn@...) "
<_tgregmrtn@... (mailto:tgregmrtn@...) >
To: _STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...)
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Two Website of Possible Interest

Bill and all,

UMM-USA makes a fabulous Razor saw that takes a bite less than .005". I
learned of this earlier this year when visiting my brother with a project in
mind and leaving my Xacto Saw at home here in Oregon. A good friend of his,
a military modeler, said "you're not still using an XACTO razor saw are
you?" OF course what else is there, and the one I have has about 80 teeth per
inch... he said, " here borrow mine it is thinner than a business card and
has 100+ teeth per inch."

This tool cut through my Proto 2000 50-foot Dbl door boxcar at the top of
the car side and at the roof line like butter. I had the roof off in less
than twenty minutes with virtually no clean up. No drag while cutting just an
even stroke and it is cutting. SAWEET! I am hooked.

Now this might seem a bit commercial but I am in no way connected to these
folks, but this is the slickest saw I have ever used. I plan to use it to
cut down some LL door to correct them to create the correct door for the
PRR X38 boxcar, actually several, who knows, this project just might show up
in Cocoa Beach.

Greg Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: lnbill <_fgexbill@... (mailto:fgexbill@...)
To: STMFC <_STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...) >
Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:15 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Two Website of Possible Interest

Here are two websites gleaned from the current Military Models in Review
that may be of interest.

The first is a company selling Rapid Prototype "After Market" parts:

_http://click2detail.com/_ (http://click2detail.com/)

The second is a site with tools, including a Mitre Box w/ more precision
than I have usually seen:

_http://www.umm-usa.com/_ (http://www.umm-usa.com/)

Bill Welch

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Re: Two Website of Possible Interest

Greg Martin
 

BILL,

I got this from Ed's friend Rob. Here's a link:

_http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?products_id=35_
(http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?products_id=35)

Then if you want Twin parallel cut buy this it is great for extracting say
a 4-inch section:

_http://www.umm-usa.com/catalog/tools_JLCEXT003.html_
(http://www.umm-usa.com/catalog/tools_JLCEXT003.html)

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:52:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
billinsf@... writes:




Hi Greg...

Now you've got my interest piqued... but which version of this saw do you
recommend?


Bill Daniels
San Francisco, CA

________________________________
From: "_tgregmrtn@... (mailto:tgregmrtn@...) "
<_tgregmrtn@... (mailto:tgregmrtn@...) >
To: _STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...)
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Two Website of Possible Interest




Bill and all,

UMM-USA makes a fabulous Razor saw that takes a bite less than .005". I
learned of this earlier this year when visiting my brother with a project in
mind and leaving my Xacto Saw at home here in Oregon. A good friend of his,
a military modeler, said "you're not still using an XACTO razor saw are
you?" OF course what else is there, and the one I have has about 80 teeth per
inch... he said, " here borrow mine it is thinner than a business card and
has 100+ teeth per inch."

This tool cut through my Proto 2000 50-foot Dbl door boxcar at the top of
the car side and at the roof line like butter. I had the roof off in less
than twenty minutes with virtually no clean up. No drag while cutting just an
even stroke and it is cutting. SAWEET! I am hooked.

Now this might seem a bit commercial but I am in no way connected to these
folks, but this is the slickest saw I have ever used. I plan to use it to
cut down some LL door to correct them to create the correct door for the
PRR X38 boxcar, actually several, who knows, this project just might show up
in Cocoa Beach.

Greg Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: lnbill <_fgexbill@... (mailto:fgexbill@...)
To: STMFC <_STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...) >
Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:15 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Two Website of Possible Interest

Here are two websites gleaned from the current Military Models in Review
that may be of interest.

The first is a company selling Rapid Prototype "After Market" parts:

_http://click2detail.com/_ (http://click2detail.com/)

The second is a site with tools, including a Mitre Box w/ more precision
than I have usually seen:

_http://www.umm-usa.com/_ (http://www.umm-usa.com/)

Bill Welch

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Re: Sou box car info needed

Clark Propst
 

Seems I had enough info already - looked right passed it - Gads!

ROADNAME NUMBER TYPE MANUFACTURER LADING Notes
SOU 23125 B Branchline bags Vigro fertilizer 5/5/4 8' Yt door, Retangular panel roof, 4/4 improved D end, Univeral hb, Morton rb

Clark Propst


Re: Sou box car info needed

Clark Propst
 

Thank very much to all that replied. I don't have a Speedwitch mini-kit. Always has to be a catch doesn't there.
Clark Propst


Re: GN box car photos

Clark Propst
 

Thanks Mike! Just joking of course...

--- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:

rockroll5040 says:

"Yeah, beings it isn't a UP car may take days before the photos are approved..."

Well...of course, one would expect the more important items to be worked first. However...behold...

Mike Brock
STMFC worker



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Re: Sou box car info needed

Ed Hawkins
 

On Sep 17, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Allen Cain wrote:

The doors on the Southern boxcars represented by the Branchline kits
have 8
foot doors and while the doors offered by Southwest Scale Productions
look
impressive, they are 6 foot wide doors. Unless I missed something on
their
site they do not offer these in the 8 ft version but I wish they did!
Allen,
You are totally correct, and my previous reply wasn't correct.

I knew something wasn't quite right when I posted my reply earlier
today. For some reason I thought Southwest Scale Reproductions offered
the earlier-version Youngstown door, but you're correct that it's
offered only for 6' door openings. The link I provided was for 6' door
openings, and the cars had 8' openings. My bad.

For another option besides doors of cast urethane, recall that C&BT
Shops came with Youngstown doors of the correct version for these SRR
box cars. C&BT had them for 6', 7' and 8' door openings. Of course,
they might be difficult to find.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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