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Re: Atlas

North Model Railroad Supplies <nmrs@...>
 

Andy said
will probably use Atlas flex unless the price goes up to where it's more
than ME or Peco or Shinohara.


Hi Andy,

Current list on Atlas Code 83

500 36" Flex track $6.49

505 #6 LH Turnout $21.95

506 #6 RH Turnout $21.95



Current Price on Micro Eng Code 83

10-104 36" Flex track $5.49

14-705 #6 LH Turnout $20.95

14-706 #6 RH Turnout $20.95


We sell both and buy both at the same dealer discount so I have no financial
bias.

I think the Atlas is probably a bit more robust, but the ME is much finer.

Also ME have self locking turnouts like Peco (the spring can be easily
removed if using stall motors).

Both brand are DCC friendly with an isolated frog that can be powered if you
want live frogs.



BTW, we are not touting for your business.

The freight from here would be a bit expensive (grin)



Regards,

David North

North Model Railroad Supplies Pty. Ltd.

<http://www.northmodelrailroadsupplies.com>
www.northmodelrailroadsupplies.com

Sydney

Australia


Prototype for the Atlas 2 bay offset side hopper?

towazy
 

I was looking at the new Atlas Trainman 2 bay offset side hopper and was wondering what roads these cars would be prototypical for. These cars look nice and I think with a minimum amount of work,such as wire grabs and ladders,would make a good model. I model northeastern coal haulers and would like to add a few of these cars if they are a fit. Thanks for any info.

Tom


Re: Boxcar Underside

Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
 

I've done this on On3 models I've built... in O scale it's not difficult. Usually it's a 1x4 board that is held in place with a couple of cotter pins on the inside of the turnbuckle.

Bill Daniels
San Francisco, CA
On Nov 2, 2012, at 4:39 PM, "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

The board through the turnbuckles is an interesting detail I've never seen modeled.

Gene Green

http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915

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Re: Images From City Of Vancouver Archives

Charlie Vlk
 

Bob-

I think you are looking at a string of Silk Express Cars..the roof details
are vents.

Charlie Vlk



Cars to the far left have unusual (to me) roof
details.vents?..hatches?

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Images From City Of Vancouver Archives

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

Here are a few more. These photos can be enlarged several times to
reveal a lot of detail.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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UTLX 68363

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PGE 3540

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track-5-c-p-r;rad>

Cars to the far left have unusual (to me) roof
details…vents?..hatches?

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ilding;rad
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uilding;rad>

Unusual Cargo…Bees

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Re: Boxcar Underside

Larry Wolohon
 

I believe that the board was placed in the turnbuckles was to keep them from turning or twisting on their own, I.E. to keep the tension in the truss rods as they, the turnbuckles, could/would twist & loosen on their own. You can see some prototype examples @ Durango on the Durango & Silverton , on the Cumbres & Toltec or in the Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden, Co.. Just look @ the 3 foot gauge former D&RGW freight cars, they mostly have these boards in their turnbuckles. I have put some of these in on some of my GN Trussrod box cars. For HO scale this requires a rather small cross section of bass wood & the truss rods to be open in the center.

Larry Wolohon/Former 3' gauge modeler

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Gjermundson" <npin53@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 9:25:33 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Boxcar Underside






I've seen NP truss rod box cars with boards through the turnbuckles. Usually a board just through a pair. There is, or was anyway, a NP box car at the Illinois RR Museum that still had the boards in place. I may have a picture of it somewhere.

I've tried to model it, but things need to be lined up just perfect.

Aaron

<The board through the turnbuckles is an interesting detail I've never
<seen modeled.
<
<Gene Green

If seen that detail on both prototype and model narrow gauge cars although
I'm sure how common it was.

Jack Burgess
Newark, CA



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Re: Boxcar Underside

npin53
 

I've seen NP truss rod box cars with boards through the turnbuckles. Usually a board just through a pair. There is, or was anyway, a NP box car at the Illinois RR Museum that still had the boards in place. I may have a picture of it somewhere.

I've tried to model it, but things need to be lined up just perfect.

Aaron

<The board through the turnbuckles is an interesting detail I've never
<seen modeled.
<
<Gene Green

If seen that detail on both prototype and model narrow gauge cars although
I'm sure how common it was.

Jack Burgess
Newark, CA


NADX reefers for "Milk White Eggs."

Don Strack
 

With the new lightrail line almost completed south of Salt Lake City to
Draper (19 miles), the community of Draper is preparing a historic railroad
display intended to highlight its poultry past.

"Draper was founded in 1849 by Scottish immigrant Ebenezer Howard. The town
was named Draperville after William Draper, who had moved here with Howard,
and was also the first LDS Elder in the area. The community later became
known as the Egg Basket of America and shipped milk white eggs all over
the country. Cooperation between Utah State University and Utah Poultry
Producers refined the White Leghorn chickens to begin production of white
eggs as early as 1910. By the 1920s, "milk white" eggs became a national
trend among the best big-city restaurants, as well as consumers who were
willing to pay more for the perfect egg from Utah. Draper Poultrymen were
also the first to send "next day" eggs by express rail (see model above) to
New York City which proved to be very profitable. The story of Draper and
its milk white eggs will be told at the historical rail car display to be
built at the Draper Town Center Park-and-Ride. Preliminary preparations
for the historic rail car exhibit are started. An actual refrigerated rail
car from the period is being transported from Kanab, Utah as the
centerpiece of the exhibit, which also will include a water tower with a
message welcoming people to Draperville."

The announcement included what looks like a standard Athearn 40-foot
HO-scale reefer, painted for North American Dispatch, NADX, with lettering
for Utah Poultry Producers Cooperative Association, and the slogan "Milk
White Eggs." Apparently, they found a reefer down in Kanab, Utah, 296 miles
to the south near the Utah-Arizona line, and will be restoring and painting
it to match the model.

I am a bit curious if this paint scheme will be accurate.

Don Strack


Re: Boxcar Underside

Doug Junda
 

6 truss rods on the car.

Doug


Re: Boxcar Underside

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

<The board through the turnbuckles is an interesting detail I've never
<seen modeled.
<
<Gene Green

If seen that detail on both prototype and model narrow gauge cars although
I'm sure how common it was.

Jack Burgess
Newark, CA


Re: Boxcar Underside

ronald parisi
 

Boards through turnbuckles on lots of harbor craft especially on the sets
of guy wires....never saw on train car before

Ron Parisi

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Gene <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

**


The board through the turnbuckles is an interesting detail I've never seen
modeled.

Gene Green

http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915


Re: Boxcar Underside

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

The board through the turnbuckles is an interesting detail I've never seen modeled.

Gene Green


Re: H21 Hopper Cars: PRR and who else??!

Larry Smith
 

During WWII according to the ORER the VGN leased I think around 100 H-21 hoppers, however the numbers weren't known and only a series was listed. Bowser produced the cars with the fantasy scheme that was drawn by John Teichmuller, however given wartime and the urgent need for cars, the only change to the cars would have been a paint over of the PRR reporting marks and VGN put in their place keeping the PRR number. Speculation has the cars coming down the Delmarva peninsula and transferring to the VGN at Norfolk.

Larry Smith


Re: Boxcar Underside

Richard Brennan <brennan8@...>
 

At 02:55 PM 11/2/2012, you wrote:
Here is a link to an image of a boxcar underside, circa 1915. Click on
the image to enlarge it. Any surprises here?

http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915
It is interesting how the main wooden sills have splayed apart beyond the right bolster...
by the twisting force that pulled out the coupler (and at least one of its springs).

Full record at:
<http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/people-exploring-remains-of-freight-car-near-south-end-of-main-street-after-collision-with-street-car;rad>http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/people-exploring-remains-of-freight-car-near-south-end-of-main-street-after-collision-with-street-car


--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Re: Boxcar Underside

soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Bob Chaparro asked:
"Here is a link to an image of a boxcar underside, circa 1915. Click on
the image to enlarge it. Any surprises here?"

http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915
<http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915>

No.  Should there be?


Ben Hom
We should send out a search party to look for the missing "draft gear boxes". :-)

Dennis


Re: Boxcar Underside

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chaparro asked:
"Here is a link to an image of a boxcar underside, circa 1915. Click on
the image to enlarge it. Any surprises here?"

http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915
<http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915>

No.  Should there be?


Ben Hom


Boxcar Underside

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

Here is a link to an image of a boxcar underside, circa 1915. Click on
the image to enlarge it. Any surprises here?

http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915
<http://pasttensevancouver.tumblr.com/post/25540455933/boxcar1915>

+++

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Airbrush Clinic & Demo at Naperville

jdziadul <dziadul@...>
 

I was not in Naperville, but I attended the hands on 2 1/2 hour airbrush clinic at the NMRA convention in Grand Rapids and consider it to be the best investment of clinic time of any convention I have ever attended. I highly recommend it for any airbrush novices like me.
Jack Dziadul
Sanford, NC


Re: Paint prep

arved_grass
 

Agreed. From F&C's FAQ:

"Are there any special instructions for painting the kits?

"Any brand of high-quality model paint is good and the model should not be primed before painting. We use floquil or Scale-coat on most of the models. The most important thing to do is to wash the model thoroughly before painting. We use a good degreaser (Ex. "Dawn" dish detergent, "Shout" Laundry pre-treater), scub the model well with plenty of water. Rinse the model well and when you think all of the detergent is off rinse it again. Allow to dry in a dust free location. (I use my china closet. Who really uses it anyway?)"

Talking with the owner at Cocoa Beach earlier this year, he (and his wife - both) were emphatic about the use of Shout. "It's the best degreaser we've found."

Arved Grass
Fleming Island, Florida

--- In STMFC@..., "Pierre" <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:

Clark,
I use "Shout" the prewash stain lifter and wash all castings before assembly. Get's the mold release out of there. Needs more rinsing than "Dawn", but cuts through most mold release agents.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., <cepropst@> wrote:

I bought two F&C kits at Naperville. Just painted one and am ready to prep the other.
I cleaned the first one with dawn detergent on a tooth brush. Still had some “fish eyeing� on the roof.

What should I have used to prep this F&C model for painting?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Re: Atlas

bill_d_goat
 

--- In STMFC@..., Andy Harman <gsgondola@...> wrote:

will probably use Atlas flex unless the price goes up to where it's more
than ME or Peco or Shinohara.

Andy
Try precision Scale Co. in Montana. In the Walthers catalog it's about half the price of Shinoha
Bill Williams

83661 - 83680 of 195635