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Re: Canadian Pacific box cars in series 248 360 to 252 249

ajfergusonca <ajferguson@...>
 

In S scale it would be a custom print as are most of our S scale decals. $6.
Allen Ferguson

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:

Group:

The four individuals who have responded to my inquiry about the CP box cars have been helpful. I thank all of you for taking time to respond to my questions. I had no idea that Black Cat has decals for this car. For me of course the question is whether Black Cat would do them in S scale.

Tom
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [STMFC@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of ajfergusonca [ajferguson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:43 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Canadian Pacific box cars in series 248 360 to 252 249

You can always use the wet decal Black Cat sets:
CPR 249645-S As painted or spans the world
CPR 250582-S 3 step Gothic
CPR 250583-S script
Allen Ferguson

If they are cracked, I feel they are hopeless. > Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


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Re: Bowser HO H30 - New

Hobi Point
 

Great news!


Re: "Unusual" hand brake ratchet and pawl design...

Scott H. Haycock
 

Bob,
Go to the upper left and opentable of contents, then contents then click on the topic you want. Scroll from There.


Scott Haycock

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Good evening!

Could someone tell me how to open the reference below. All that comes up is headers with a grey area where an image should be.

Thanks,

Bob McCarthy


Re: CofGa Flat Car Assistance Needed

O Fenton Wells
 

John, do you know what car numbers series these cars were? We may have the
info in the SRHA files.
Fenton

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:51 PM, John Golden <golden1014@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Brothers,

While researching TCI&R/Chickasaw-built flat cars for an article in an
upcoming issue of the S-CL Modeler, I remembered that the Central of
Georgia Rwy HS recently rescued a former TCI&R flat car that was very
similar to the SAL cars. A real one, not a model. Photos of the Central
flat car can be found at http://www.cofg.org/. <http://www.cofg.org/>
The story of the car's rescue is quite interesting.

I talked to Allen Tuten at the Central society and he has virtually zero
information on the car. I was wondering if anyone in this group might have
a photo of that class of Central flats in service, or perhaps a drawing, or
anything else that would be useful to help prototype restoration and
modeling?

Thanks, guys!

John

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

2012 St. Louis RPM Photos Online at http://www.pbase.com/golden1014

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Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@gmail.com


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Re: "Unusual" hand brake ratchet and pawl design...

Bob McCarthy
 

Good evening!

     Could someone tell me how to open the reference below.  All that comes up is headers with a grey area where an image should be.

Thanks,

Bob McCarthy



________________________________
From: Jack Burgess <jack@yosemitevalleyrr.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: "Unusual" hand brake ratchet and pawl design...


 
Dennis wrote:

<National Malleable Castings Co. was showing a similar pawel and ratchet
<in the 1919 Car Builder's Dictionary, middle of page 744. Go to:
<
<http://ebook.lib.hku.hk/CADAL/B3139551X/
<
<And go to page 762 of the file.
<
<Dennis

Thanks Dennis...same concept but a little cleaner design with a single pivot
for both the pawl and "weight". It isn't in the 1922 Cyclopedia so maybe it
wasn't that popular...

Jack Burgess




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Re: "Unusual" hand brake ratchet and pawl design...

Jack Burgess
 

Dennis wrote:

<National Malleable Castings Co. was showing a similar pawel and ratchet
<in the 1919 Car Builder's Dictionary, middle of page 744. Go to:
<
<http://ebook.lib.hku.hk/CADAL/B3139551X/
<
<And go to page 762 of the file.
<
<Dennis

Thanks Dennis...same concept but a little cleaner design with a single pivot
for both the pawl and "weight". It isn't in the 1922 Cyclopedia so maybe it
wasn't that popular...

Jack Burgess


Re: "Unusual" hand brake ratchet and pawl design...

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:

I've uploaded three photos of an "unusual" hand brake ratchet and pawl
design (at least, I'm not familiar with it) to a folder entitled "Unusual
Brake Pawl"

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1885599086/pic/list

The brake ratchet and pawl are on the remains of a Yosemite Valley Railroad
box car built by Seattle Car and Foundry in 1914...
National Malleable Castings Co. was showing a similar pawel and ratchet in the 1919 Car Builder's Dictionary, middle of page 744. Go to:

http://ebook.lib.hku.hk/CADAL/B3139551X/

And go to page 762 of the file.

Dennis


Re: CofGa Flat Car Assistance Needed

Bob McCarthy
 

John,

      Have a lot of CofGa diagrams and list of cars at home.  When we return next week I will look for you.

      However, if Allen does not know, I imagine that I would not have more information, but will still look.

       The CofGa flat is similar to a group of GA RR flat car that were converted to low side gondolas in the 1930's.  An acquaintance in ATLANTA has a lot of images and even the work order for converting this group of GA RR flats.  Have used that information to build a Scale S version


Bob McCarthy



________________________________
From: John Golden <golden1014@yahoo.com>
To: "stmfc@yahoogroups.com" <stmfc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: [STMFC] CofGa Flat Car Assistance Needed


 
Brothers,

While researching TCI&R/Chickasaw-built flat cars for an article in an upcoming issue of the S-CL Modeler, I remembered that the Central of Georgia Rwy HS recently rescued a former TCI&R flat car that was very similar to the SAL cars.  A real one, not a model.  Photos of the Central flat car can be found at http://www.cofg.org/.  The story of the car's rescue is quite interesting.

I talked to Allen Tuten at the Central society and he has virtually zero information on the car.  I was wondering if anyone in this group might have a photo of that class of Central flats in service, or perhaps a drawing, or anything else that would be useful to help prototype restoration and modeling? 

Thanks, guys!

John
 
John Golden
O'Fallon, IL
 
2012 St. Louis RPM Photos Online at http://www.pbase.com/golden1014

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"Unusual" hand brake ratchet and pawl design...

Jack Burgess
 

I've uploaded three photos of an "unusual" hand brake ratchet and pawl
design (at least, I'm not familiar with it) to a folder entitled "Unusual
Brake Pawl"

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1885599086/pic/list

The brake ratchet and pawl are on the remains of a Yosemite Valley Railroad
box car built by Seattle Car and Foundry in 1914. The casting bolted to the
car has an extension to the left side which is at about a 45 degree angle to
the flat portion of the casting. There is a pivot cast onto the top of the
extension. The ratchet is mounted on the brake staff with the teeth down.
The pawl is bolted to the pivot and mounted off center so that it is
normally disengaged. There is a weigh also bolted to the pivot and mounted
above the pawl. This weigh is in the shape of a lower case "b".

This weight is in the disengaged position in Photo 2...the pawl rests on the
casting. If this weight is flipped over as in Photo 3, it rests on the end
of the pawl, thus raising the pawl up to engage the ratchet.

I've measured the ratchet, etc. and am in the process of drawing it up so
that I can make a master and cast up these parts. But, I'm interested to
hear if this might have been a fairly standard design or maybe something
that Seattle Car and Foundry produced themselves.

Jack Burgess
Newark, CA


CofGa Flat Car Assistance Needed

golden1014
 

Brothers,

While researching TCI&R/Chickasaw-built flat cars for an article in an upcoming issue of the S-CL Modeler, I remembered that the Central of Georgia Rwy HS recently rescued a former TCI&R flat car that was very similar to the SAL cars.  A real one, not a model.  Photos of the Central flat car can be found at http://www.cofg.org/.  The story of the car's rescue is quite interesting.

I talked to Allen Tuten at the Central society and he has virtually zero information on the car.  I was wondering if anyone in this group might have a photo of that class of Central flats in service, or perhaps a drawing, or anything else that would be useful to help prototype restoration and modeling? 

Thanks, guys!

John
 
John Golden
O'Fallon, IL
 
2012 St. Louis RPM Photos Online at http://www.pbase.com/golden1014


Re: Bowser HO H30 - New

mcindoefalls
 

Thank heaven! I've been resisting the Rail Shop kit for quite a while, now. This, I can handle!

Walt Lankenau


Re: Canadian Pacific box cars in series 248 360 to 252 249

Thomas Baker
 

Group:

The four individuals who have responded to my inquiry about the CP box cars have been helpful. I thank all of you for taking time to respond to my questions. I had no idea that Black Cat has decals for this car. For me of course the question is whether Black Cat would do them in S scale.

Tom
________________________________________
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [STMFC@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of ajfergusonca [ajferguson@hydro.mb.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:43 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Canadian Pacific box cars in series 248 360 to 252 249

You can always use the wet decal Black Cat sets:
CPR 249645-S As painted or spans the world
CPR 250582-S 3 step Gothic
CPR 250583-S script
Allen Ferguson

If they are cracked, I feel they are hopeless. > Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


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Re: Canadian Pacific box cars in series 248 360 to 252 249

ajfergusonca <ajferguson@...>
 

You can always use the wet decal Black Cat sets:
CPR 249645-S As painted or spans the world
CPR 250582-S 3 step Gothic
CPR 250583-S script
Allen Ferguson

If they are cracked, I feel they are hopeless. > Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: New IRC cars

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

The NYC paint job is the 1955 paint scheme, but IM have put an ACI
label on it. So that would make it very late 1960's/ early 1970's.

Robert Bogie

----- Original Message -----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
To:
Cc:
Sent:Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:40:47 -0500
Subject:RE: [STMFC] New IRC cars

 

The Clinchfield, NYC, EL, PC and NdeM cars represent post 1960 paint
jobs.
SP as tony said 1958.

To answer Tim the DL&W 10 ft postwar cars were riveted. Aside from
the doors
these should be correct for EL but post 1960 so what is EL anyway.

The C&O cars are in the right series but the lack of lines above and
below
the reporting marks, and what I think is a 64 reweigh date make me
think
these are 1960's paint jobs also.

I don't have the KCS cars on a 10 ft postwar list?

NYC cars are numbered 175000-175999 (Lot 737-B) This is the series
the
Pacemaker cars were pulled from. This series had early prewar doors
on the
first 250 so this model may be accurate but it's a 60's paint job.

See RPC 8 for boatloads of more information.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga, NY

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [1] [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com [2]] On
Behalf Of
Pierre
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:07 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [3]
Subject: [STMFC] New IRC cars

IRC has announced new post war 10' IH boxcars;
http://www.ircmodelersclub.com/reservationflyers/RF1112HOBoxcars.htm
[4]
Are any of these paint jobs accurate?
Pierre Oliver

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Re: New IRC cars

Brian Carlson
 

The Clinchfield, NYC, EL, PC and NdeM cars represent post 1960 paint jobs.
SP as tony said 1958.



To answer Tim the DL&W 10 ft postwar cars were riveted. Aside from the doors
these should be correct for EL but post 1960 so what is EL anyway.

The C&O cars are in the right series but the lack of lines above and below
the reporting marks, and what I think is a 64 reweigh date make me think
these are 1960's paint jobs also.

I don't have the KCS cars on a 10 ft postwar list?

NYC cars are numbered 175000-175999 (Lot 737-B) This is the series the
Pacemaker cars were pulled from. This series had early prewar doors on the
first 250 so this model may be accurate but it's a 60's paint job.

See RPC 8 for boatloads of more information.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga, NY



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Pierre
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:07 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] New IRC cars





IRC has announced new post war 10' IH boxcars;
http://www.ircmodelersclub.com/reservationflyers/RF1112HOBoxcars.htm
Are any of these paint jobs accurate?
Pierre Oliver


Brine Tank Refrigerator EKSX 1175

gary laakso
 

Herron Rail’s recent DVD on the Reading, Volume 2, Freight and Yard Action 1949-1952 features a long sequence of EKSX, The E. Kahn’s Sons Co. refrigerator car being switched. Its in the FGEX color scheme but it is lettered “Brine Tank Refrigerator” on the side.
The DVD has many roof top scenes of boxcars, hopper cars and gondolas. Most cars are really dirty! Good viewing.

gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
vasa0vasa@earthlink.net


Re: New IRC cars

Bill Welch
 

Perhaps as important but more subtle, are the doors correct?! I bet a bunch need Dan Hall's doors. A friend has been bugging IM to use his doors. No luck so far according to my friend. The NedM cars had a solid side sill.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Pierre" <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:

IRC has announced new post war 10' IH boxcars;
http://www.ircmodelersclub.com/reservationflyers/RF1112HOBoxcars.htm
Are any of these paint jobs accurate?
Pierre Oliver


Re: New IRC cars

Matt Herson
 

The NdeM paint scheme is correct but dates from 1972.



Matt Herson


Bowser HO H30 - New

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

This from the MR weekly email......



http://bowser-trains.com/New_Products/New%2011%202012%20H30%20Hoppers/New%2011%202012%20H30%20Hopper.htm



BTW, N&W had 10 cars in its Class HC-1.



Jim Brewer

Glenwood MD


Re: Robert Stears Models at Naperville

Gene Semon
 

Thanks.

Gene Semon

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Vanwormer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:05 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Colorado Midland
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Robert Stears Models at Naperville

Look like a Hanrahan Refer as used on the Colorado Midland and Santa Fe
for two roads, the second looks like the 1909 rebuild of the CM Hanrahan
into ventilated Vegetable Cars.
Tom VanWormer
Monument CO

Gene Semon wrote:



While looking over Dave Hussey's photos
(http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/naper12&page=all
<http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/naper12&page=all> ) from this years
Naperville
meet, I noticed what appear to be two wood ice refrigerator cars
( http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/image/147114695 ) &
(http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/image/147114696 )

Can someone tell me what cars these are? Perhaps Robert is on the list.

Thanks,

Gene Semon
(mopac1@classicnet.net <mailto:mopac1%40classicnet.net>)








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