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Re: Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars

Benjamin Hom
 

Gene Green asked:
"The ACL scheme looks too modern for my 1950 RR. One of the cars matches an RMJ
photo dated 1964. When might that scheme have first been applied?"

Not as new as you might think, Gene.  ACL Gothic lettering with Prismo sill
stripes was applied to cars as early as 1951.


Ben Hom


Re: Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Don Burn" wrote:
The only one I think is correct is the ACL scheme, but as always it depends > on the year you model.
Don Burn
The ACL scheme looks too modern for my 1950 RR. One of the cars matches an RMJ photo dated 1964. When might that scheme have first been applied.
Gene Green


Re: Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars

Benjamin Hom
 

Jim Lancaster asked:
"Atlas has announced new paint schemes for their HO USRA steel
rebuilt box cars
http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/hosteelrebuilt3.htm
Are any of these prototypically correct?"

Don Burn replied:
"The only one I think is correct is the ACL scheme, but as always it
depends on the year you model."

As Brian stated earlier, NONE of these models are correct out of the
box. The ACL model is the closest, but the side ladders need to be
replaced with grabs and the model needs rework of the side sill to
match the prototype. These models are hermaphrodites that match no
specific prototype, and for $35, you're better off spending the extra
money and wait on delivery of the more correct Sunshine Models kits.


Ben Hom


Re: Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars

Don Burn
 

The only one I think is correct is the ACL scheme, but as always it depends
on the year you model.

Don Burn

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Lancaster James
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:26 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars

Atlas has announced new paint schemes for their HO USRA steel rebuilt box
cars http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/hosteelrebuilt3.htm

Are any of these prototypically correct?

Jim Lancaster


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Re: Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars

Brian Carlson
 

Jim:
As we discuss every time a new run if these is announced. They are not prototypical for anything out if the box. Search the archives for more details.

Brian Carlson
On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Lancaster James <ljames1@...> wrote:

Atlas has announced new paint schemes for their HO USRA steel rebuilt
box cars
http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/hosteelrebuilt3.htm

Are any of these prototypically correct?

Jim Lancaster

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Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars

Jim Lancaster
 

Atlas has announced new paint schemes for their HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars
http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/hosteelrebuilt3.htm

Are any of these prototypically correct?

Jim Lancaster


Re: seaboard boxcar

arved_grass
 

--- In STMFC@..., "tomedill@..." wrote:

would like to build a model of Seaboard boxcar using an Atlas 1932 body style 2 kit, part #20 000 171 if anyone has one for sale or possible trade. thanks, Tom Dill
GMTA. Been reading Tony Thompson's blog?

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2012/12/small-modeling-project-1932-ara-box-car.html

I've been scouring the web looking for an undec to start with. Tough! But it looks like they have them at Toy Train Heaven. Now, if it's really in stock... We'll see if my order gets filled, or if I get an e-mail that the order is cancelled due to none in stock.

Otherwise, like Tony, there are decorated cars available that can be easily stripped in 91% Isopropyl Alcohol. There are a few KCS(L&A) cars shown in stock at M. B. Klein (5+9+9 = 23) that I believe are the same basic body style:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/ztna9.tft5b/v/vspfiles/photos/ATL-20001254-2.jpg?1335605098

Or if that link is too long:

http://tinyurl.com/axql5wl

That's my backup plan if Toy Train Heaven falls through on the undec.

I hope this helps. Good luck and Happy New Year!

Arved Grass
Fleming Island, Florida


seaboard boxcar

tomedill@frontier.com
 

would like to build a model of Seaboard boxcar using an Atlas 1932 body style 2 kit, part #20 000 171 if anyone has one for sale or possible trade. thanks, Tom Dill


Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas

wdzwonchyk
 

I asked about the Retterer colletion when I first joined the group and got no replies. My undertanding is that he passed away in 2011. I have been unable to ascertain what has become of his collection of builders photos, etc. Wayne M Dzwonchyk

--- In STMFC@..., "Layout Tour" wrote:

I understand that the Standard Steel Car Company (SSCC) photo archives were
in the collection of Keith Retterer of Marietta, GA. Does anyone know him
or how I can get in touch with him. Thanks.



Chuck Davis

Norfolk, VA



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Re: Steam Era Flat Cars: o scale

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson wrote:

On Jan 2, 2013, at 10:08 AM, "Gene" wrote:
<snip>
CGW had none.
Not true, Gene. CGW owned 200 flat cars numbered 3800-3999 which were built to the AAR standard 50 ton design. Some were used in piggyback service and, later, some had end bulkheads applied.

Richard Hendrickson
By golly, you are right! I tried to use my memory instead of going to the source documents. I guess what I didn't remember was that my memory isn't so good sometimes. In this case my "source documents" are CGW equipment diagrams which are sometimes not the best way to determine the actual design of a car.

Gene Green


Re: Jeff Koeller

Tim O'Connor
 

The only email I have for Jeff is rkjmk@...


Does anyone have contact info for Jeff Koeller? He was mentioned
back a few years in Mainline Modeler as being an authority on
Northwestern Refrigerator Line (NWX). I would like to get in touch
with him, if possible. Laurance King <lrkdbn@...>


Chicago & Illinois Midland CIM 16007

railsnw@frontier.com <railsnw@...>
 

I have uploaded a photo of nearly new Chicago & Illinois Midland boxcar CIM 16007 taken at Seattle circa 1955. It is in the photo section under "Freight Car photos of Richard Wilkens".

Richard Wilkens


Re: Caboose Wheel Sizes - Many Thanks for the Responses

webotkin
 

Thanks to all who responded about the caboose wheel diameter question. From
the responses, it appears that 33 inches was typical and no one could
provide an example of 36 inch diameter wheels in use.



Bill Botkin

Centennial, CO


Re: update to Richard Hendrickson's truck handout

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Richard Hendrickson's clinic handout on model trucks for freight cars has been updated by him, as of December 15, with some improvements. The initial update was a very big file, but it is now reduced to 22 MB, a more reasonable download. If you don't have it yet, here is a link:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz_ctrHrDz4wMkpBYUw1RjhmRkE/edit
Thanks, Tony. I just opened it and it came right up, so reducing the DPI of the photos obviously solved the problem of the bloated file. The spacing didn't work out exactly as planned, so there are now 15 pages, but that's irrelevant as it's all there and easily viewed. I'm sorry this made extra work for you, but AFAIK I don't plan another update any time soon. I'll print the little handouts with the web address tomorrow and bring enough so everyone at CB who wants one will get one.

On another subject, I got an e-mail from Southwest today about a rental car sale from Budget, so I took a look and found that their rate at Orlando was considerably less than the Dollar rental we had reserved. So I booked Budget and canceled Dollar. Some years ago I had a frustrating experience with Budget and haven't rented from them since, but I decided to get over it, as I think the car rental companies are all pretty much alike

Richard.


Re: update to Richard Hendrickson's truck handout

spsalso
 

Tony,

Thank you for posting this; and, Richard, thank you for putting the info together and sharing. It is very useful to have clear photographs of the various trucks and to have then arrayed in a logical manner.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Richard Hendrickson's clinic handout on model trucks for freight cars has been updated by him, as of December 15, with some improvements. The initial update was a very big file, but it is now reduced to 22 MB, a more reasonable download. If you don't have it yet, here is a link:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz_ctrHrDz4wMkpBYUw1RjhmRkE/edit


Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Jeff Koeller

lrkdbn
 

Does anyone have contact info for Jeff Koeller? He was mentioned back a few years in Mainline Modeler as being an authority on Northwestern Refrigerator Line (NWX). I would like to get in touch with him, if possible.
Laurance King <lrkdbn@...>


Re: Steam Era Flat Cars: o scale

Tim O'Connor
 

Sure sounds like the same prototype as the Tichy flat car, reportedly an NC&StL prototype
but with a number of very similar cars for other owners.

----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryK" <lndkline@...>

What is the prototype for PL #1000 NC&StL/SPS flatcar? Is it the NC&StL fishbelly center sill flatcar that was in the 1928, 1931 and 1937 CBCys or another flatcar?

Larry Kline


Re: Steam Era Flat Cars: o scale

Larry Kline
 

A.T.,

What is the prototype for PL #1000 NC&StL/SPS flatcar? Is it the NC&StL fishbelly center sill flatcar that was in the 1928, 1931 and 1937 CBCys or another flatcar?

Larry Kline

--- In STMFC@..., "proto48er" <atkott@...> wrote:

Guys -

I can add a couple of O scale flatcars that might not have been mentioned.

First, here are the Pacific Limited cars, each a little different from the others:

PL #1000 NC&StL/SPS flatcar;
PL #2700 ACL 53'-6" flatcar;
PL #3150 UP 53'-6" flatcar;
PL #3200 NKP 53'-6" flatcar;
PL #3400 NP 53'-6" flatcar (if you remove the poling pockets, it becomes an I-GN car); and,
PL #3500 C&O 53'-6" flatcar.

Precision Scale Co. made (makes?) a brass and wood kit, PSC #9045, which makes a WP 41' standard gauge flatcar.

Westside imported an SP class F-200-1 16-wheel flatcar - very nice brass model.

Max Gray imported an approximate model of an NYC 16-wheel flatcar of different length from the Westside model (MG #116) - needs work!

Car Works imported very nice brass models of the PRR FM flatcars. With a lot of work, one could "kitbash" one of these FM's and a Hallmark Gra into a PRR Fgra flatcar and a PRR Gr gon!

Happy New Year!

A.T. Kott


update to Richard Hendrickson's truck handout

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Richard Hendrickson's clinic handout on model trucks for freight cars has been updated by him, as of December 15, with some improvements. The initial update was a very big file, but it is now reduced to 22 MB, a more reasonable download. If you don't have it yet, here is a link:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz_ctrHrDz4wMkpBYUw1RjhmRkE/edit


Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Steam Era Flat Cars: o scale

proto48er
 

Guys -

I can add a couple of O scale flatcars that might not have been mentioned.

First, here are the Pacific Limited cars, each a little different from the others:

PL #1000 NC&StL/SPS flatcar;
PL #2700 ACL 53'-6" flatcar;
PL #3150 UP 53'-6" flatcar;
PL #3200 NKP 53'-6" flatcar;
PL #3400 NP 53'-6" flatcar (if you remove the poling pockets, it becomes an I-GN car); and,
PL #3500 C&O 53'-6" flatcar.

Precision Scale Co. made (makes?) a brass and wood kit, PSC #9045, which makes a WP 41' standard gauge flatcar.

Westside imported an SP class F-200-1 16-wheel flatcar - very nice brass model.

Max Gray imported an approximate model of an NYC 16-wheel flatcar of different length from the Westside model (MG #116) - needs work!

Car Works imported very nice brass models of the PRR FM flatcars. With a lot of work, one could "kitbash" one of these FM's and a Hallmark Gra into a PRR Fgra flatcar and a PRR Gr gon!

Happy New Year!

A.T. Kott