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Re: DT&I lease of PRR X26c boxcars
al_brown03
39 cars in 1/53 ORER, equipped for auto parts loading, individual numbers listed.
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Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: DT&I lease of PRR X26c boxcars
Benjamin Hom
Pierre Oliver asked:
"Can someone provide a little history of this car lease? Time, duration, etc? And maybe a really brief look at the actual cars?" From Dave Mikulec's DT&I website http://dti.railfan.net/Equipment_Database/ORERindex.html DT&I 104326-107113, 39 cars in 1/1954 ORER, 73 cars in 1/54 and 1/55 ORER. None in 7/1950 or 7/1958 ORER; gaps in ORER coverage 1951-1953 and 1956-1957 on webpage. Cars equipped for auto parts loading; individual car numbers listed in DT&I ORER entry. I'll check my photo collection tonight; IIRC, I have a photo of one of these cars from Rich Burg's collection. Ben Hom
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Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas
Keith R. email is
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frecklesearnhardtbear@hotmail.com Sincerely, Rich Yoder
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wdzwonchyk Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas Great! Would you mind sharing his contact information with the members of the group? Wayne M. Dzwonchyk --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Yoder" wrote: since. Rich YoderTodd Horton Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:52 PMwere in the collection of Keith Retterer of Marietta, GA. Does anyone knowhim or how I can get in touch with him. Thanks. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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DT&I lease of PRR X26c boxcars
Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...>
Can someone provide a little history of this car lease?
Time, duration, etc? And maybe a really brief look at the actual cars? Thanks, -- Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
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Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas
wdzwonchyk
Great! Would you mind sharing his contact information with the members of the group?
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Wayne M. Dzwonchyk
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Re: Delano photograph of LCL house in Chicago
Schuyler Larrabee
Thanks, Greg, I knew it would be obvious which photo I was looking for.
Yes, I'll be at Cocoa, look forward to seeing you and everyone else. Schuyler From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tgregmrtn@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:23 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Delano photograph of LCL house in Chicago Schuyler, Here is the link, go the left and click the Delano link and you find it. _http://www.junipergallery.com/historical_railroad_photos_ (http://www.junipergallery.com/historical_railroad_photos) See you at the beach next week. Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean , schuyler.larrabee@verizon.net <mailto:schuyler.larrabee%40verizon.net> writes: I am sure that many of you know the photograph I'm referring to. I cannot find it on line. Can any one of you provide a pointer to the photo. I think it is a LofC photo, but could not find it tonight. Thanks Schuyler
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Re: Delano photograph of LCL house in Chicago
Greg Martin
Schuyler,
Here is the link, go the left and click the Delano link and you find it. _http://www.junipergallery.com/historical_railroad_photos_ (http://www.junipergallery.com/historical_railroad_photos) See you at the beach next week. Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean , schuyler.larrabee@verizon.net writes: I am sure that many of you know the photograph I'm referring to. I cannot find it on line. Can any one of you provide a pointer to the photo. I think it is a LofC photo, but could not find it tonight. Thanks Schuyler
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Delano photograph of LCL house in Chicago
Schuyler Larrabee
I am sure that many of you know the photograph I'm referring to. I cannot
find it on line. Can any one of you provide a pointer to the photo. I think it is a LofC photo, but could not find it tonight. Thanks Schuyler
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Re: seaboard boxcar
Steve Lucas <midrly@...>
Excellent blog post by Tony on modifying this car to a Seaboard model. I'll have to print it off--there is a "peacetime" use for this model that I bought in a fit of ignorance. As for Atlas decorating this thing up as a CN/GTW 1936 rebuild I might be less charitable than Ben Hom has been in describing it.
Steve Lucas. Sent from my iPod
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Re: Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars
Dennis Storzek
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Unless they've changed the rectangular panel roof, there is something weird about the way the panels come all the way to the edge of the roof. Dennis
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Re: Steam Era Flat Cars: o scale
Richard Hendrickson
On Jan 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, proto48er <atkott@swbell.net> wrote:
Larry -All true, A. T., and the other RR that had cars built to the same design was the Florida East Coast. Also, the Texas & Pacific had some flat cars that were dry close. Those cars have been modeled in several scales in numbers out of all proportion to their importance because there is a splendid set of drawings of one series of NC&StL cars in the 1928 ands 1931 CBCycs. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: Steam Era Flat Cars: o scale
proto48er
Guys -
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I am replying to my own email to add more info on the Pacific Limited 53'-6" flatcars! Pat had Wo Sung (WBM) make (300) total flatcars in this series. Richard Hendrickson helped him with some of the prototype information. They were distributed and boxed as follows: (55) were the NP version which followed the AAR standard, except that the AB brake layout was different; (50) were the UP version (F-50-11) which was the basis of the AAR design; (35) were the C&O version which differed from the AAR design in having no poling pockets on the end sills; and, (80) were the NKP version, also correct for D&RGW #22000-22199 (BLT 1944), ACL #77000-77471 (BLT 1943), SOO #5201-5399 (BLT 1941), C&NW #45601-46599 (BLT 1942 & 1944), EJ&E #6375-6574 (BLT 1943), MONON #7000-7059 (BLT 1941), and similar cars L&N #21000-21399 (BLT 1943 & 1947), CLINCH #10100-10149 (BLT 1946), and IT #1100-1149 (BLT 1945). Note that the above only totals (220) cars. Pat held the last (80) cars back (all were of the NKP version), intending to make them into TOFC cars. However, he had trouble selling all the above (220) cars, so he never made the TOFC cars, selling (30) of them as flatcars in boxes with different labels (D&RGW,, ACL, etc.) as above. The cars did not sell well, and Pat finally "bulk sold" the last (50) cars to John Clemens. Flatcars generally do not sell well in "O" scale for some reason. At some point, Overland Models also imported a more modern flatcar - I do not have any info on it. A.T. Kott
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Re: update to Richard Hendrickson's truck handout
Benjamin Hom
Al Brown asked:
"Ben, are you using Tichy's equalized Andrews trucks (one pair, #3012; ten pair, #3016) or their rigid ones (one pair, #3026; ten pair, #3027)? If equalized, I agree: I can't get them to hold together. Haven't had a problem with the rigid ones." The equalized trucks. I couldn't get the rigid trucks in bulk ten years ago, and bought 30 pair of the equalized trucks to take care of what I needed back then. Ben Hom
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Re: update to Richard Hendrickson's truck handout
al_brown03
Ben, are you using Tichy's equalized Andrews trucks (one pair, #3012; ten pair, #3016) or their rigid ones (one pair, #3026; ten pair, #3027)? If equalized, I agree: I can't get them to hold together. Haven't had a problem with the rigid ones.
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Tichy also have equalized and rigid "Bettendorf" trucks: same deal. I would note also that Tichy make two archbar trucks: "standard" (#3002; look like 30-40 ton) and "heavy duty" (#3022; 100 ton). Great handout, Richard! Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: seaboard boxcar
golden1014
Tom,
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Tony's article in his blog is excellent. FYI, we did an exhaustive article in The Seaboard-Coast Line Modeler in 2009 that covered the prototype SAL cars and modeling using both the Atlas and Sunshine models. That article is in Vol 3, No. 1, 1st Quarter 2009 edition (we call that issue "SCLM #7"). The Atlas cars are around--just have to look hard. You might also try the HOInterchange list on Yahoo Groups. I've found a ton of hard-to-get items there. John Golden O'Fallon, IL
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Re: Steam Era Flat Cars: o scale
proto48er
Larry -
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I think that Pat obtained the drawings from one of those CBC's, so it is actually a model of the NC&StL car. However, I recall that someone (Richard Hendrickson?) did an article in the model RR press about the NC&StL cars, and that there were two series of them on the NC&StL differing in brake equipment or something? SP&S also had similar cars. A.T. Kott
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Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas
Not True!
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I Also heard that rumor this past summer but Have communicated with him since. Rich Yoder
-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Horton Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:52 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas I think Keith passed away, I can't confirm that but that's what I heard. Todd Horton ________________________________ From: Layout Tour <mylvrr@cox.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 4:37 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas I understand that the Standard Steel Car Company (SSCC) photo archives were in the collection of Keith Retterer of Marietta, GA. Does anyone know him or how I can get in touch with him. Thanks. Chuck Davis Norfolk, VA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars
Benjamin Hom
Ed Sutorik wrote:
"It appears that, if one accepts the shallow side sill modeling, that the ACL and someday-to-be-produced Frisco cars ARE credible models of the prototype. Or am I missing something else." The problem with the side sill is more than its shallow profile - both prototypes also had distinctive brackets joining the underframe to the sides that the Atlas car fails to model accurately. Also as pointed out earlier, depending on the car modeled (and the model used), the great majority of these cars had side grabs instead of ladders. The door details also leave something to be desired. The bottom line: should you pay $35 for this model? Ben Hom
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Re: update to Richard Hendrickson's truck handout
Benjamin Hom
Rob Kirkham asked:
"I noticed the Tichy Andrews and two types of arch bar trucks were not named. Wonder if that is because they don't cut it as models, or maybe they are something that could be added to the next update down the road?" Richard Hendrickson replied: "Not listing the Tichy Andrews and Arch Bar trucks was a judgment call on my part, as better detailed trucks of those types are available (e.g. Tahoe, Kadee, Intermountain). However, though it lacks brake shoe detail, the Tichy Andrews truck is otherwise quite nice." I bought a large number of Tichy Andrews trucks a decade ago to use for models requiring that truck; they're still nice looking trucks, but over 10 years of use, the press-fit between the bolster and sideframes have a tendency to come apart. I now replace them with other Andrews trucks as required. Ben Hom
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Re: Atlas HO USRA steel rebuilt box cars
spsalso
It appears that, if one accepts the shallow side sill modeling, that the ACL and someday-to-be-produced Frisco cars ARE credible models of the prototype. Or am I missing something else.
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Ed Edward Sutorik
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