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Re: Resin tank car kits (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

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Clark;

Right in the middle of my attempt at construction of the first Sunshine insulated tank car, I threw myself off of a rooftop and killed myself.

Elden Gatwood

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Subject: [STMFC] Resin tank car kits



I just finished my second SC&F tank car. Very nice kits. Go together very well, just time consuming. Was wondering how assembly of these kits compare to other manufacturers resin tank car kits?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Intermountain semi-scale 33" wheel sets

Andy Carlson
 

Hello survivors of the Mayan collapse.

I have good numbers of Intermountain Railway Co. #40052 12 packs of 33" code 88
semi-scale wheel sets I am offering to readers of this post. Each package has
enough axles to equip 3 freight cars.

Each 12 pack has a list price of $10.00. I am selling these 12-packs for $7.00
each.

I have a few 12 packs of 36" wheel sets available at $8.00/each.
Buy 18 packs, and I will pay the postage (That is free shipping).

Shipping for all other amounts are $2.25 and up, depending on weight. I accept
checks and money orders, and for a small fee, I can also accept PayPal. If
interested, please contact me off-list at <midcentury@...>

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: New Haven 38' gondolas

tedander2000
 

At the IRM's Pullman Library we do have many original pencil and ink drawings of SSC freight and passenger cars, plus interurbans and early trolley cars. According to Eric Neubauer's CD of P-S freight cars, there was one 1906 order and three 1907 orders for NYNH&H 80 ton 38 ft gondolla cars, general arrangement drawing 15751: s/n's 51000 - 51499, 51500 - 51999, 52000 - 53449, and 53450 - 55949. In 1911 there was another order for similar cars, s/n 55950 - 57499, but under GA dwgs 28438 and 28906. If there is interest in these drawings or including detail like the underframe and brake arrangement drawing, or the drop door mechanism drawing, please let us know and we can check for availability, then mail an estimate. A drawing copy goes for $25, but that includes priority mailing. Note that we supply significant numbers of drawing copies to model manufacturers, under Bombardier license. That protects them and you from unauthorized copies for other than the intended single user use, also protects us as the fees cover annual costs in the thousands for digital equipment upkeep and ongoing restorations to protect the originals. I checked my listing for Keith's photos without success for these cars, but maybe Roger has an updated list!
Sincerely, Ted Anderson, IRM Pullman Library volunteer curator

--- In STMFC@..., Roger Hinman wrote:

I certainly hope the others are correct and the collection is available. I'm on travel this weekend but I have his catalog at home with the photo listings for these cars
Sent from my iPad

On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:25 AM, "wdzwonchyk" wrote:

Roger: If, as others in the group have indicated, Retterer is still alive and active, why is his Standard Steel Car builders photo collection currently not available?
Wayne M. Dzwonchyk


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Re: COUPLER BOX SCREWS

rdgbuff56
 

Save money and search web for Micro Fasteners.  I believe from New Jersey.

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr.
Sunbury, Pa.


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From: Steve Sandifer <steve.sandifer@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] COUPLER BOX SCREWS


 
I simply us 0-80s and paint the heads.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM PARDIE
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] COUPLER BOX SCREWS

Early last year there was a discussion concerning blackened, flat head metric screws
for securing couplers. Has anyone come up with a source for these screws?

Bill Pardie

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Re: COUPLER BOX SCREWS

Steve SANDIFER
 

I simply us 0-80s and paint the heads.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM PARDIE
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] COUPLER BOX SCREWS




Early last year there was a discussion concerning blackened, flat head metric screws
for securing couplers. Has anyone come up with a source for these screws?

Bill Pardie


Re: COUPLER BOX SCREWS

albyrno
 

Try Ace hardware,the ones by me have tons of metric screws,blackened,stainless down to 1mm.
   Alan

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Re: Resin tank car kits

Dennis Williams
 

Clark.   They have their ups and downs compared to F&C and Sunshine.  Some have resin handrail stantions, lots of problems!! I use Presision Scale stantions.  Some are easier than others, depends on the car.  Try a resin wrap tank from Sunshine X-3,-5 maybe???


Dennis Williams/Owner
http://www.resinbuilders4u.com/


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From: "cepropst@q.com" <cepropst@q.com>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Resin tank car kits


 

I just finished my second SC&F tank car. Very nice kits. Go together very well, just time consuming. Was wondering how assembly of these kits compare to other manufacturers resin tank car kits?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


COUPLER BOX SCREWS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Early last year there was a discussion concerning blackened, flat head metric screws
for securing couplers. Has anyone come up with a source for these screws?

Bill Pardie


Resin tank car kits

Clark Propst
 

I just finished my second SC&F tank car. Very nice kits. Go together very well, just time consuming. Was wondering how assembly of these kits compare to other manufacturers resin tank car kits?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: New Haven 38' gondolas

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Roger Hinman wrote:

I certainly hope the others are correct and the collection is available. I'm on travel this weekend but I have his catalog at home with the photo listings for these cars
Sent from my iPad

On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:25 AM, "wdzwonchyk" wrote:

Roger: If, as others in the group have indicated, Retterer is still alive and active, why is his Standard Steel Car builders photo collection currently not available?
Wayne M. Dzwonchyk

The last time I received photos from Keith was some time ago.
All, however, were printed on resin coated paper. Has anyone tried
to purchase any size, type or brand of black & white photo enlarging paper in the last year or two? It is getting damned hard to find other than occasionally some Ilford paper. We are being forced to scan everything and use digital printing and Keith may not have made that commitment yet. I haven't either.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: New file uploaded to STMFC

ronald parisi
 

Good concise summary - thanks for posting.

Ron Parisi

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, <STMFC@...> wrote:

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New file uploaded to STMFC

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Re: Shirts at Prototype Rails

Phil Clark
 

Yes, I wasn't sure, but yes there is an NP boxcar a long way from home
on eBay 360547052663.

Phil Clark, Catarman, Philippines.

.--- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" wrote:

BTW, with all this talk of unusual frt cars being usual, don't
overlook
Brock's 4th rule of frt cars [ steam era of course ] which clearly
states
that Thou shall have at least one Northern Pacific box car in each
merchandise frt train.


Re: New Haven 38' gondolas

ROGER HINMAN
 

I certainly hope the others are correct and the collection is available. I'm on travel this weekend but I have his catalog at home with the photo listings for these cars

On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:25 AM, "wdzwonchyk" <dzwonchyk@...> wrote:

Roger: If, as others in the group have indicated, Retterer is still alive and active, why is his Standard Steel Car builders photo collection currently not available?
Wayne M. Dzwonchyk


New Haven 38' gondolas

wdzwonchyk
 

Roger: If, as others in the group have indicated, Retterer is still alive and active, why is his Standard Steel Car builders photo collection currently not available?
Wayne M. Dzwonchyk


Re: New Haven 38' gondolas

ROGER HINMAN
 

The 38ft NH gondolas were built by Standard Steel, builders photos were available from Keith Retterer but that collection is currently unavailable. SSC Gen Arrgt drawing number 15751 is available at the PA State archives in Harrisburg and possibly at the IRM Library

Roger Hinman
On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:06 AM, rhammill <randy@...> wrote:

Hi, Claus -

I don't have a lot of information as they are well before my era. They are actually hopper bottom gondolas. You can just make out the hopper in that picture under the second rib from the left.

They were built from 1906 to 1911.

Here's a diagram:
http://www.alphabetroute.com/nynhh/frtdgms/51000-56949.pdf

They were gone by 1940. I don't have any listed in work service from 1946 or later, but I don't have earlier records.

I'd recommend asking on the NHRHTA forum to see if anybody else can help there:
At http://nhrhta.org, or a direct link to the forum:
http://thenhrhtanewhavenrailroadforum.yuku.com/

I hope that helps.

Randy Hammill
True Line Trains
http://truelinetrains.com
--
http://newbritainstation.com
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954

--- In STMFC@..., "Claus Schlund (HGM)" wrote:

Hi List Members,

I've been trying to gather some information on a series of New Haven 38' gondolas. The best image I've been able to find is of NH 51443. Note the spotting feature that the two center panels are much narrower than the others. See link below.

https://zwrl2q.sn2.livefilestore.com/y1prCY-pPLFadSMCuAHilANopdP9_mYIw7V7XPBQImhR-SACT_V1VjoFTPSP8ZNevM6WhnrV5AIJrZ54HwqJyRvRkYQchjGkpdR/NH_38ft_gon_side_view_SHORELINER_Vol34_Issue3_Pg13.jpg?psid=1

Information from a Dec 1930 ORER indicates the following:

MCB Designation GR
Coal, Transverse Twin Hopper
Numbers 51000 to 57449
Inside Length 38'
Inside Width 9' 3 1/2"
Inside Height 3' 9"
Capacity 80000 lbs
Number of Cars 3079

Anyone have any images of these? Know anything about them? I'm considering modeling one or more of these. It seems these could be made from the all-too-common 40 foot 8-panel gondola models by shortening the two center panels...

All the best - Claus


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Re: Manor (Model RR Products)

Michael Aufderheide
 

JP,

My copy of the August 1948 issue of MR has an ad for Manor, but only as a hobby shop at the same address on North Ave.

Mike Aufderheide

--- In STMFC@..., "JP Barger" wrote:

HI, Gene, et al,



I saw your question on the 8th, and want to reply with what I know about
Manor. >


Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas

lrkdbn
 

No, he's alive and well. I just bought some images on a CD from him.
LR King

--- In STMFC@..., Todd Horton wrote:

I think Keith passed away, I can't confirm that but that's what I heard.


Todd Horton


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From: Layout Tour
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 4:37 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Lehigh Valley Drop Side LCL Gondolas


 

I understand that the Standard Steel Car Company (SSCC) photo archives were
in the collection of Keith Retterer of Marietta, GA. Does anyone know him
or how I can get in touch with him. Thanks.

Chuck Davis

Norfolk, VA






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Re: New Haven 38' gondolas

lrkdbn
 

A lot of these were built by Standard Steel Car Co. Try the Pullman Library at the Illinois Ry. Museum-Mr. George Anderson Curator. They have a collection of SSC drawings. Also Keith Retterer may have builder's pix.
LR King

--- In STMFC@..., "rhammill" wrote:

Hi, Claus -

I don't have a lot of information as they are well before my era. They are actually hopper bottom gondolas. You can just make out the hopper in that picture under the second rib from the left.

They were built from 1906 to 1911.

Here's a diagram:
http://www.alphabetroute.com/nynhh/frtdgms/51000-56949.pdf

They were gone by 1940. I don't have any listed in work service from 1946 or later, but I don't have earlier records.

I'd recommend asking on the NHRHTA forum to see if anybody else can help there:
At http://nhrhta.org, or a direct link to the forum:
http://thenhrhtanewhavenrailroadforum.yuku.com/

I hope that helps.

Randy Hammill
True Line Trains
http://truelinetrains.com
--
http://newbritainstation.com
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954



--- In STMFC@..., "Claus Schlund (HGM)" wrote:

Hi List Members,

I've been trying to gather some information on a series of New Haven 38' gondolas. The best image I've been able to find is of NH 51443. Note the spotting feature that the two center panels are much narrower than the others. See link below.

https://zwrl2q.sn2.livefilestore.com/y1prCY-pPLFadSMCuAHilANopdP9_mYIw7V7XPBQImhR-SACT_V1VjoFTPSP8ZNevM6WhnrV5AIJrZ54HwqJyRvRkYQchjGkpdR/NH_38ft_gon_side_view_SHORELINER_Vol34_Issue3_Pg13.jpg?psid=1

Information from a Dec 1930 ORER indicates the following:

MCB Designation GR
Coal, Transverse Twin Hopper
Numbers 51000 to 57449
Inside Length 38'
Inside Width 9' 3 1/2"
Inside Height 3' 9"
Capacity 80000 lbs
Number of Cars 3079

Anyone have any images of these? Know anything about them? I'm considering modeling one or more of these. It seems these could be made from the all-too-common 40 foot 8-panel gondola models by shortening the two center panels...

All the best - Claus


Re: UP box car and USRA single sheathed outside braced box car decal questions

ROGER HINMAN
 

last email address I had was martinpark@...

Roger Hinman

On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:10 PM, lnbill <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Does anyone know how to acquire photos by or owned by Jim Parker? Many of the dates I see associated with his photos are "in my wheelhouse."

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "Benjamin Scanlon" wrote:


Now if you were modelling the Georgia RR in 1954, odds are that you would have many silver-sided cars and a few oxide red. In this case, the oxide red cars would be the odd ones!

Steve Lucas.

quite probably. GA / West Point Route had a variety of cars painted silver, including

AAR 1937 boxes: http://rr-fallenflags.org/awp/awp38011ajs.jpg

USRA SS rebuilds: http://rr-fallenflags.org/grr/ga19733jpa.jpg

and these, though i've no idea what they are ... a version of their 1923 or 1924 ARA Pratt truss rebuilds, given the 7/8 end?

http://rr-fallenflags.org/grr/ga29382ajs.jpg

even their MOW stuff got silver paint at some point, though a whiter shade.

ben

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