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O Scale West 2013 / S West 8 In One Week
Rod Miller
[infomercial]
The Subject O and S scale meet, featuring many scale items including SP equipment and steam era freight cars, is coming up next weekend. The LDSIG/OPS annual meet starts on Saturday, so if you are available Friday and interested in O and S scale trains, drop by. This will be the 23rd and 8th consecutive annual meet for O Scale West and S West. The meet is at the Hyatt Regency Santa Clara in Santa Clara, CA. Registration opens Thursday at 3PM; there are not your normal commercial RR movies that night. Registration Friday starts at 8AM; the doors open at 9AM. Registration before Saturday will cost you $30 for you, your spouse/SO, and all children related or not under 18 YO; $20 on Saturday the last day of the meet. There will be about 200 tables of O and S scale goodies, 4 on-site layouts, about 10 clinics some by prominent members of these groups, a favorite model contest that usually draws some very nice models, and 30 home and club layouts open for DIY visiting during the meet. More info is on the web site, link to the right below. Thanks Rod -- Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives, | O Scale West / S West Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More | 2013 Meet is Jan 24-26 http://www.rodmiller.com | http://www.oscalewest.com
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Re: Model armor and model aircraft web sites with building BLOGS and reviews
jerryglow2
If you're not familiar with Tony Thompson's blog <http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/> you should be. Not all projects are SP
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Jerry
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Re: Model armor and model aircraft web sites with building BLOGS and reviews
Bill Welch
I will chime in as Rob Adams is in Asia for two weeks. Rob has taken over the Steam Era Freight Car website founded by Ted Culotta several years ago. I have to believe what you are talking about, Marty and Charlie, would be right at home with what Rob envisions doing as he re-envisions the site. The rest of us, including myself need to be thinking about what model photos we want to send Rob.
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Bill Welch
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Re: Prototype Rails 2013 trip report
arved_grass
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Aley, Jeff A" wrote:
Lowlights:... - Attendance was only 247; I was hoping for 250-275.Yet, the Hotel sold out of rooms at the special rate. They tried very hard to sell me a room at $165 a night. If I couldn't have found a less expensive hotel, that would have meant driving home Saturday night, missing the banquet and evening presentations. Expedia to the rescue! With "only" a 3-4 hour drive home, that last night stay is tough to justify to the Cheif Financial Officer. - Hotel food is S... L... O... W... Not bad tasting, but slow. On the other hand, there are many other dining options, including Sonny's BBQ, Roberto's Little Havana, and the Lobster Shanty.Ugh. Agreed. Even the morning breakfast buffett. I thought waiting to pay your bill was supposed to be a Russian thing. - I only got a cookie on Thursday night :( It's silly how much I looked forward to a $0.65 chocoloate-chip cookie.I heard rumors of cookies. I also heard a lot of people wishing there were sugar free cookies, also. I didn't see either, but REALLY appreciated the free coffee. It was surprisingly good. I also wanted to "put a shout out" to all the other modelers that brought models to display. It would be nice if more had "in process" models. I was a little self-conscious, but this was also the first time I've paraded my work like that. Everyone I spoke to was very encouraging and supportive. What a terrific environment to immerse yourself in for 3 days! Arved Grass Fleming Island, Florida
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Re: Model armor and model aircraft web sites with building BLOGS and reviews
Marty McGuirk
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie D" wrote:
Maybe the population of modelers in our side of the hobby doesn't justify these types of sites but thought I'd toss it out for discussion.Charlie, and all: I'd be willing to coordinate a blog dedicated to detailed modeling of steam era rolling stock. Not sure how the mechanics would work, but if you're interested in discussing it please email me off list at mjmcguirkATcomcastDOTnet Marty
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Re: HO scale model guide for 1920s era freight cars
Eric Hiser <ehiser@...>
Eric:
Thanks for the resources on 1920s cars. Much appreciated by this 1920s modeler! Eric Hiser Phoenix
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Re: Establishing Tank car top and bottom locations
Jared Harper
Micro-Mark's is not exactly like the one I have. The one I have is like a machinist's square with a thumb screw adjustment so you can run the ruler in and out depending on the diameter of the cylinder. However, Micro-Mark's will do the same job.
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Jared Harper Athens, GA
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Re: Establishing Tank car top and bottom locations
Jared Harper
Micro-Mark's is not exactly like the one I have. The one I have is like a machinist's square with a thumb screw adjustment so you can run the ruler in and out depending on the diameter of the cylinder. However, Micro-Mark's will do the same job.
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SP&SRHS Swap Meet January 19, 2013
bcbarneyor
SPOKANE PORTLAND & SEATTLE RAILWAY
HISTORICAL SOCIETY PRESENTS RAILROAD SWAP MEET AT HOLIDAY INN – PORTLAND AIRPORT CONFERENCE CENTER 8439 NE COLUMBIA BLVD PORTLAND, OREGON JANUARY 19, 2013 9:30 AM TO 2:30 PM $5 ADMISSION Under 12 FREE DIRECTIONS: I-205 to "Columbia Blvd/US 30 Bypass – West" exit #23B Keep right and merge on to NE Columbia Blvd (go underneath UPRR Tracks) Go about ½ mile, hotel on right (Convention Center is east of hotel) Free Parking!!! Free Parking!!! Free Parking!!! See you there, Bruce Barney
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Re: Establishing Tank car top and bottom locations
Kenneth Montero
Jared,
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Is this the same thing as a Center Square advertised in Micro-Mark's latest catalog on page 17 (items # 82285 and 82280 )? Ken Montero
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From: "JaredH" <harperandbrown@gmail.com> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:13:25 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Establishing Tank car top and bottom locations You can do this more easily using a center finder. It has an angle that sits on top of the cylinder with a straight edge that goes down across the cylinder and bisects it so you can mark the center top and bottom. Jared Harper Athens, GA --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com , Andy Carlson wrote:
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Re: Prototype Rails 2013
Earl Tuson
"Suggest you pony up for some roller skates for Jeff Aley; he was everywhere!"How time has flown. I can recall when there was wondering over who was the youngest around here. Back then, it was between Aley, Hom, and I, but I guess we're getting to be old men now, too. Jeff, you infirm? Damn, I turn 40 in a week and a half. Earl Tuson Not with the hair I used to have. (Steam era freight cars... uh... they're here somewhere...)
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Re: NWX 12204 and 12202
Benjamin Hom
Charles Hostetler wrote:
"I'm still trying to learn when a single ORER line item represents a set of identical cars and when it represents a jumbled up group of sort- of-alike cars." There are two obvious indicators: - The series is annotated with "NOTE [LETTER]", referring the user to the notes section listed at the end of that owners' listing. This is often used to identify indvidual cars with in a series with special equipment, in special service, or cars differing from the rest of the series in one way or another. - Additionally, the car series may listed with two or more lines showing cars with differing dimensions with quantities for each line. For example, the equipment trust that the Frisco financed their USRA DS boxcars with required replacement of wrecked cars; as a result, the same number series contained original DS boxcar, boxcars rebuilt into steel cars, prewar 1937 AAR boxcars, and even a few old sawtooth Fowler SS boxcars. The listing for that number series has a separate line for each type of car. Ben Hom
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Re: Sunshine at Timmonium ?
Ryan Reed
Speaking of Sunshine, and I may be way behind the curve here, but does anyone know if the round 1 elimination kits are still available?
Ryan Reed
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Re: NWX 12204 and 12202
Charles Hostetler <cesicjh@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson wrote:
I'm not sure what you're asking here, Charles.It was a rather vague question at that, and I apologize for not having thought it clearly through. What I was really trying to get at was whether the Oscar Mayer cars were identical to the other 1953 Renton rebuilds or were they some other (similar) car grafted onto the series? To my (inexperienced) eye they look the the same, just painted (and operated) differently, but I was seeking confirmation. I'm still trying to learn when a single ORER line item represents a set of identical cars and when it represents a jumbled up group of sort-of-alike cars. Thanks for helping me get this clearer in my head! Charles Hostetler
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Re: NWX 12204 and 12202
Richard Hendrickson
On Jan 17, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Charles Hostetler <cesicjh@pocketinet.com> wrote:
….My tentative conclusion is that at least a couple of the Renton rebuilds were leased to Oscar Mayer in the mid to late 1950s, and that not all of the 276 were painted in the classic green and yellow scheme. I had never really thought about NWX in the 1950s as a car lessor, and I was hoping that someone on the group might have some information as to whether this was reasonable.I'm not sure what you're asking here, Charles. The photographic evidence establishes that NWX did lease reefers to Oscar Mayer in the 1950s (I also have a photo of freshly painted NWX 6834, reweighed 6-57 with yellow sides and Oscar Mayer logos). In addition, the 1950s ORERs show some NWX cars on long term lease to shippers under the shippers' own reporting marks. So the statement that North Western Refrigerator Line leased cars to shippers in the 1950s is correct. Does that make it "reasonable"? Richard Hendrickson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Prototype Rails 2013
Aley, Jeff A
Jim (and other presenters from PR'13),
I did not only list the presenters that I liked; I listed the ones whose clinics I actually attended. There are many other presenters that I like, and I wish that I had the time to hear, but... Last year I did a better job of telling folks to silence their cell phones. I'll try to do better next year, and I intend to have a single powerpoint page that the presenters can include that asks folks to silence their phones. Regards, -Jeff From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of np328 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:51 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Re: Prototype Rails 2013 Mike - an excellent job. And a Very Well Done event. I have chaired a couple of conventions and as someone who chaired prior to me told me: You get to choose all the presenters you have ever wanted to present and yet manage to see none of them. Mike - Take credit for the extremely nice weather, and please order it up for next year. That from both me and my wife. I did not get a cookie however I and my wife missed the beanie baby craze so perhaps missing cookies are not a bad thing. As far as a rush from the ballroom to the cookie table - missed it however to conjure up a vision of it I believe could cause nightmares. Jeff listed presenters he liked and I am quite happy to make that list. Jeff helped me when my computer went into microsoft limbo-land just prior to the first presentation. Thank you Jeff. Jeff does not need roller skates, no - he needs a Star Trek transporter device. I very much like this event and placing names with faces. Like Bill Welch, this could be fifth or sixth time. My only only concern was the number of cell phone devices that went off during presentations. I cannot recall the last time I have heard so many. Perhaps some - Silence cell phone device beyond this point, signs would be good. Of course the people who do listen do not need to be told and those that do not listen never will. Mike, Jeff - I and my wife are already looking forward to next year. Jim Dick -- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mike Brock" wrote: Now that the thirteenth consecutive Prototype Rails [ The Bash on the Beach ] is history and since I have recovered about 50% of what faculties I still have remaining, I would like to thank the many members of the STMFC that attended and particularly those that made presentations. Such meets as Prototype Rails are very dependent on presenters, attendees, and I should add, the many manufacturers and vendors that attend.I would like to note that the average high temperature during the meet was 80°. In recent years I have been blamed for temps somewhat lower than 80. I am, therefore, taking full credit for the extremely nice weather. Mike Brock Prototype Rails Boss [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Prototype Rails 2013
np328
Mike - an excellent job. And a Very Well Done event.
I have chaired a couple of conventions and as someone who chaired prior to me told me: You get to choose all the presenters you have ever wanted to present and yet manage to see none of them. Mike - Take credit for the extremely nice weather, and please order it up for next year. That from both me and my wife. I did not get a cookie however I and my wife missed the beanie baby craze so perhaps missing cookies are not a bad thing. As far as a rush from the ballroom to the cookie table - missed it however to conjure up a vision of it I believe could cause nightmares. Jeff listed presenters he liked and I am quite happy to make that list. Jeff helped me when my computer went into microsoft limbo-land just prior to the first presentation. Thank you Jeff. Jeff does not need roller skates, no - he needs a Star Trek transporter device. I very much like this event and placing names with faces. Like Bill Welch, this could be fifth or sixth time. My only only concern was the number of cell phone devices that went off during presentations. I cannot recall the last time I have heard so many. Perhaps some - Silence cell phone device beyond this point, signs would be good. Of course the people who do listen do not need to be told and those that do not listen never will. Mike, Jeff - I and my wife are already looking forward to next year. Jim Dick -- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Brock" wrote: Now that the thirteenth consecutive Prototype Rails [ The Bash on the Beach ] is history and since I have recovered about 50% of what faculties I still have remaining, I would like to thank the many members of the STMFC that attended and particularly those that made presentations. Such meets as Prototype Rails are very dependent on presenters, attendees, and I should add, the many manufacturers and vendors that attend.I would like to note that the average high temperature during the meet was 80°. In recent years I have been blamed for temps somewhat lower than 80. I am, therefore, taking full credit for the extremely nice weather. Mike Brock Prototype Rails Boss
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Re: Establishing Tank car top and bottom locations
Jared Harper
You can do this more easily using a center finder. It has an angle that sits on top of the cylinder with a straight edge that goes down across the cylinder and bisects it so you can mark the center top and bottom.
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Jared Harper Athens, GA
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Re: MILW 592025 - 593024 Auto Box
ed_mines
All the cars mentioned sound similar to the Q'Craft single sheathed auto box which had single sheathed ends. Plans for that car appeared in one of the CBCs.
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Re: Prototype Rails 2013
Jeff, If you are to go "on wheels" please combine your efforts with a local
Sonic drive in so we can get burgers and fries during the clinics. Fenton Wells On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Aley, Jeff A <Jeff.A.Aley@intel.com> wrote: ** -- Fenton Wells 3047 Creek Run Sanford NC 27332 919-499-5545 srrfan1401@gmail.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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