Re: rail sizes (was something else)
Dave, from what I have read, after the war the PRR began to replace
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its mainline rail with standardized 136 lb rail (as did many railroads) This is the standard size for heavy rail in the US to this day. Tim
Getting off the STMFC topic a little, but I did locate at 1943 report titled "The Life of Rail" at the PA state archives last May. It was to inform various wartime regulators of the need to support higher rail replacement rates than was being allocated based on war-time material restrictions.
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Re: Walthers HO 53' 6" GSC Flatcar capy
Trucks would be one factor. There may have been other reasons as well.
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Walther HO model 53' 6" GSC flatcar, in PRR paint is a 70 ton car, in ATSF
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Walthers HO 53' 6" GSC Flatcar capy
s shaffer
Walther HO model 53' 6" GSC flatcar, in PRR paint is a 70 ton car, in ATSF paint only a 50 ton car. Is that determined by the trucks it sits on?
Thank you Steve Shaffer
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The wheels on the bus go round and round, was Re: Revell Flatcar
devansprr
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce F. Smith" wrote:
Getting off the STMFC topic a little, but I did locate at 1943 report titled "The Life of Rail" at the PA state archives last May. It was to inform various wartime regulators of the need to support higher rail replacement rates than was being allocated based on war-time material restrictions. It includes the following for PRR mainline track: Total miles of mainline: 15,787 Miles of 152 lb rail: 628 Miles of 131 lb rail: 2,155 Miles of 130 lb rail: 6,336 Miles of 112 lb and lighter: 6,668 So it appears that most of the heavy rail must have been laid post-war, since the PRR was expecting to get only about 50% of the new rail they felt was necessary in 1944 to maintain overall rail conditions. Dave Evans
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Re: can you id these tank cars?
Richard Hendrickson
On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net> wrote:
The angle from which it's viewed is deceptive, Tim. It's certainly a larger car than 10K or 12K. Some details don't match the Tk-M class as built (e.g. single tank bands), but given the extreme age of the car when photographed, that's hardly conclusive. GATC built similar large (for that era) tank cars as diesel fuel cars for a number of RRs in the '40s, and it could be one of those, Richard Hendrickson
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Re: can you id these tank cars?
Richard, are you sure about the TRSX (not TRNX)? Although the
car has 4-courses like the Tk-M, the builder photos make it look much longer. I would have guessed the car in the photo is a 10k or at most a 12k tank car. Tim O'Connor TRNX 12001 16K gal. Santa Fe Tk-M built by GATC in 1942 Richard Hendrickson http://www.ebay.com/itm/121060850109
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Re: Watch Your Step decals
That lettering can be found in several forms in various decal sets.
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Speaking of cataloging stuff :-) I have long wanted to actually sit down with my decal collection and catalog all the wonderful little bits of lettering that can be found on decal sets that are useful in many other situations. For example I recall the decal sets for RF&P PS-1 40' box cars (from whom?) had 'watch your step' lettering that was placed under the ladders. A nice detail, and not uncommon. I estimate if I did this by myself I would never actually build another model because it would take me several thousand hours to do a good job of it. Tim O'Connor
Anyone know of any HO or N scale decals that contain a Watch Your Step warning in white? I had a set of old Walthers with this for a caboose but naturally ruined one of the decals. Many of the decal providers don't have photos.I think some of the Microscale decal sets have this. This was common wording above the pilot steps on many locomotives.
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Re: can you id these tank cars?
Thanks Richard! That's what I wanted to know.
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Tim
Well, for some reason I had no trouble enlarging the images, and the tank cars were as follows:
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Re: can you id these tank cars?
Tony
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Yes, you can ALWAYS see completed listings for 15 days after it closes. Just open the original listing, and click on the image to enlarge it to full size. These are large, hi resolution images. Tim O'
Tim O'Connor wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/111007867594Since bidding has ended, or the item sold, in all five cases, you can no longer click to enlarge. Not many of us can identify much in the little thumbnails provided for buyers to look at.
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Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round, was Re: Revell Flatcar
Jack,
156# was a slip on my part in the intial thread that I later corrected to 155# regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL ________________________________________ From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [STMFC@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of moonmuln [jack.f.mullen@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:58 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] The wheels on the bus go round and round, was Re: Revell Flatcar I'm puzzled by the references to 156# rail. PRR's 152# and 155# sections are documented in (prototype) engineering literature and vendor's catalogs, but I'm unaware of 156#. Is this just a typo that's been perpetuated in this thread, or was there a third heavy rail section on the Pennsy? My recollection is that the 152# rail was designed in the late '20s, and the 155# was an improved design dating from sometime in the '40s. Overall dimensions remained the same: 8" h., 6 3/4" base, 3" head width. The 155# section had a deeper, redesigned head and improved fillet between head and web. Both sections were introduced many years after the the I1s type and other heavy power was placed in service. Obviously I1s could and did operate safely on lighter rail. The purpose of moving to heavier rail sections was to attain an improvement in service life that would more than offset the cost of the added metal. Locomotive characteristics, axle loads, gross tonnage, operating speeds, grades and curvature are factors that come into play. FWIW 8" is around 0.092" in HO, so code 100 is about 9% oversize in height.. In O, code 172 is about 3% over (for 48:1) or under (for 45:1), so perhaps you should consider a different scale. ;>) --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, SUVCWORR@... wrote:
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Re: Box Car Database
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Mark Rickert wrote:
Can you site the source of the ruling on "billboards" , particularly the text of the verdict?It's all in the book, Billboard Reefers, by Hendrickson and Kaminski. The ICC ruling itself is quite long, but there was a good summary of it in Railway Age; the latter is reprinted in full in the book. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Box Car Database
caboose9792@...
Can you site the source of the ruling on "billboards" , particularly the
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text of the verdict? thanks, Mark Rickert (going back to lurking)
In a message dated 2/9/2013 10:40:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,
riverman_vt@yahoo.com writes: Say what, Gene????? An M&StL box car turned into a billboard?? But I thought those were outlawed bak in the 1930's!!!! VBG Ah well, some would call the New Haven and Bangor & Aroostock red, white and blue cars "billboards" as well. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: 3D printing challenges etc.
Ed Walters
A follow up - having done some testing, the desktop version of 123D is more advanced than the browser app, and Inventor Fusion is more advanced than 123D. The wrinkle with Fusion is that it will expire in April, although an update that will continue its availability has been promised.
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Re: 3D printing challenges etc.
Ed Walters
http://www.123dapp.com
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There's a browser app and a desktop version. There's also Inventor Fusion, which apparently is more targeted to mechanical work: http://labs.autodesk.com/technologies/fusion It seems like there's a lot of crossover between them, though!
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Re: 3D printing challenges etc.
Robert kirkham
I've not heard of it. Say more please . . .
Rob -------------------------------------------------- From: "eddie_walters" <eddie_walters@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:20 AM To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [STMFC] Re: 3D printing challenges etc. Has anyone tried 123D from Autodesk for generating STL files? It seems to be targeted at the same market as sketchup, but given that it presumably includes some of Inventor's core, it might be less susceptible to the leak problems?
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Re: 3D printing challenges etc.
Ed Walters
Has anyone tried 123D from Autodesk for generating STL files? It seems to be targeted at the same market as sketchup, but given that it presumably includes some of Inventor's core, it might be less susceptible to the leak problems?
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Re: Watch Your Step decals
Scott H. Haycock
Good memory, Bill
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I have these 2 sets on my bench as we 'speak?' . the Watch your step decals, in both white and black are printed vertically, near the bottom right corner. Scott Haycock Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm ent
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Going from memory this warning is on Micro scale set #1 or #2, maybe both, in HO. Perfect for L&N cabooses. Bill Welch [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Watch Your Step decals
Bill Welch
Going from memory this warning is on Micro scale set #1 or #2, maybe both, in HO. Perfect for L&N cabooses.
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Bill Welch
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Re: Watch Your Step decals
Scott H. Haycock
Actually, this would be something you could do with an inkjet. The artwork could be done in a variety of programs. With lettering this small, a 'close enough' computer font could be found. The trick would be matching the paint of the steps close enough with you printer. Most drawing programs have a 64 color standard pallet. One of these colors should be a reasonably close match.
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Paint a swatch of your step color, or fill a box, depending on your program. Type your text over this in black and check your font point size for scale, etc. Once you're satisfied, turn the font color to white. In the properties box, click on "always on top" and print on white decal paper. Of course, seal the decal before using! Scott Haycock Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm ent
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I think some of the Microscale decal sets have this. This was common wording above the pilot steps on many locomotives. Sure would be nice to have an ALPS printer, or something like it (that can print white), to whip up something like this when you need it. Arved Grass Fleming Island, Florida
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Re: (was)Tichy rebuilt USRA boxcar DIVERSION (is) useful template?
Charles,
Final got to read your blog post on the Tichy 4021. Very nicely done I hope you will continue to pull more kits off the shelf. Mark From: Charles Hostetler [mailto:cesicjh@pocketinet.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:49 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] (was)Tichy rebuilt USRA boxcar DIVERSION (is) useful template? --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , Benjamin Hom wrote: take a crack at it yourself?Ben and others, I was stimulated by the idea and did take a little tiny initial crack at a variant of it. This isn't implemented as a spreadsheet, because I wanted a more pictorial format, but it is my first attempt at composing a kit profile (not a review!) that provides a description of what's inside the box and what it might become. I'd be interested in reactions to the utility of this initial post which I hope can develop into a series. It deals with the Tichy 40' 50 ton flat car. http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2013/01/kit-profile-tichy-4021.html Regards, Charles Hostetler
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