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Sale items on eBay

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

The following Branchline items are being listed on eBay right now and more will be listed in the next 30 minutes.
I am also listing a number of other items from Athearn, Atlas, Life-Like (El Cheapo) and Roundhouse.
A search for eBay item number 181094527768 will lead you to all the other items.

Item # 1001 ... ATSF 17186..... Box, 50' Single Door
Item # 1001 ... ATSF 17186..... Box, 50' Single Door
Item # 1213 ... URTX 7044 ..... Reefer, wood, ACF, 40' ... MILW
Item # 1213 ... URTX 7066 ..... Reefer, wood, ACF, 40' ... MILW
Item # 1213 ... URTX 7572 ..... Reefer, wood, ACF, 40' ... MILW
Item # 1216 ... NWX 15103..... Reefer, wood, ACF, 40', gray sides
Item # 1216 ... NWX 15352..... Reefer, wood, ACF, 40', gray sides
Item # 1216 ... NWX 70269..... Reefer, wood, ACF, 40', gray sides
Item # 1216 ... NWX 70269..... Reefer, wood, ACF, 40', gray sides
Item # 1322 ... URTX 90158..... Reefer, wood, ACF Blatz, Blueprint
Item # 1335 ... URTC ................. Reefer, wood, 40' Heileman's
Item # 1335 ... URTC.................. Reefer, wood, 40' Heileman's
Item # 1335 ... URTC.................. Reefer, wood, 40' Heileman's
Item # 1344 ... URTX.................. Reefer, wood, 40' N Dorman & Co
Item # 1346 ... URTX.................. Reefer, wood, 40' NUCOA
Item # 1356 ... URTX.................. Reefer, wood, 40' Fairmont
Item # 2100 ... undec.. undec.... Box, 50' Berwick,
Item # 9006 ... TP&W .. 7021..... Box, 40' AAR, 6' door, Blueprint Special Edition
Item # 9021 ... WP ...... 20562..... Box, 40' AAR, 6' door, Blueprint Special Edition
Item # 9028 ... D&RGW 60024.. Box, 40' AAR, 6' door, Yardmaster Special Edition

Gene Green


Re: 2nd Qtr. 2013 NYCentral Modeler Uploaded on NYCSHS Website

Tom Vanwormer
 

Noel,
Apparently the 2d Qtr magazine hasn't been loaded to the website yet.
Also your instructions didn't make it in your email, at least as I
received it.
Thanks,
Tom VanWormer
Monument CO

Noel Widdifield wrote:



The latest edition of the NYCentral Modeler has just been uploaded on
the NYCSHS website. www.nycshs.org Be sure to check this one out.

NYCSHS member Charlie Crawford's layout models the NYC Adirondack
Division of the NYCS. He has vacationed in the Adirondack Mountains
for many years starting in 1976 and he loves being there. Since he
can't be there all of the time, he created a model railroad to take
him there when he is away. Join us as he tells us about his railroad
and the interesting things he has included on his layout.

This edition features articles from Alan Bell on "A Busy Day at Albany
Station", Charlie Crawford's "NYC's Adirondack Division", another in
the series from Ron Parisi on " Manhattan's Greatest Train Yard -
NYC's 60th Street Yard", the continuation of "Modeling the NYC in
TT-Scale" by Paul Pickard, and the final in series on "Kitbashing
Steam Locomotives" by Tom Bailey.

We have included a great set of drawings and modeling instructions on
the NYC&HRRR standard stockyards. This in another in the series of
professional drawings from the "NYC Engineering Department" done by
Mauel Duran-Duran developed from one of our NYCSHS Drawing DVD's. Of
course, like his past drawings, Mauel had added considerable detail
and precision to the final product. He also gives us a little history
about a fairly unknown aspect of NYCS freight operations, livestock
transport.

In this issue we offer a new feature for the NYCentral Modeler. For
the first time we have two excellent layout drawings of Alan Bell's
layout done by recent NYCSHS member and layout drawing artist, Frank
Knight. Frank's layout drawings will be a regular offering in future
editions.

This is the largest NYCentral Modeler to date with almost 100 pages
packed with NYCS modeling information and photos. This is our eighth
edition and includes several pages of new products, new book and
magazine highlights, and letters to the editor.
Our president, Rich Stoving, in his regular column, asks us, "Who Are
You". In it, he talks about how he likes to "Model Railroad" and
reminds us of the many ways to enjoy our great hobby of modeling the NYCS.

To enjoy this edition and all of the other seven follow the
instructions below and let us know what you think.

Noel Widdifield
Editor, NYCentral Modeler
NYCBigFour@... <mailto:NYCBigFour%40comcast.net>


Re: 2nd Qtr. 2013 NYCentral Modeler Uploaded on NYCSHS Website

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Scott, I'm stupid as well but was waiting for someone else to ask
the question. Thanks Max
Fenton Wells

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...>wrote:

**



Go down to the "for the modeler" button and push. On the next page scroll
down to the box that says "2013 and select Q2. It will say "no preview
available" but push the download button anyway.

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm ent
----- Original Message -----

Maybe I'm just stupid, but if I enter "www.nycshs.org", it ALWAYS comes
up
in the blogsite. HELP!!

Max S. Robin
Life Member NYCHS

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--
Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
@srrfan


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Re: 2nd Qtr. 2013 NYCentral Modeler Uploaded on NYCSHS Website

Scott H. Haycock
 

Go down to the "for the modeler" button and push. On the next page scroll down to the box that says "2013 and select Q2. It will say "no preview available" but push the download button anyway.


Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm ent

----- Original Message -----





Maybe I'm just stupid, but if I enter "www.nycshs.org", it ALWAYS comes up
in the blogsite. HELP!!

Max S. Robin
Life Member NYCHS


Re: 2nd Qtr. 2013 NYCentral Modeler Uploaded on NYCSHS Website

Max Robin
 

Maybe I'm just stupid, but if I enter "www.nycshs.org", it ALWAYS comes up
in the blogsite. HELP!!

Max S. Robin
Life Member NYCHS

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Noel
Widdifield
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 7:38 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] 2nd Qtr. 2013 NYCentral Modeler Uploaded on NYCSHS Website

The latest edition of the NYCentral Modeler has just been uploaded on the
NYCSHS website. www.nycshs.org Be sure to check this one out.

NYCSHS member Charlie Crawford's layout models the NYC Adirondack Division
of the NYCS. He has vacationed in the Adirondack Mountains for many years
starting in 1976 and he loves being there. Since he can't be there all of
the time, he created a model railroad to take him there when he is away.
Join us as he tells us about his railroad and the interesting things he has
included on his layout.

This edition features articles from Alan Bell on "A Busy Day at Albany
Station", Charlie Crawford's "NYC's Adirondack Division", another in the
series from Ron Parisi on " Manhattan's Greatest Train Yard - NYC's 60th
Street Yard", the continuation of "Modeling the NYC in TT-Scale" by Paul
Pickard, and the final in series on "Kitbashing Steam Locomotives" by Tom
Bailey.

We have included a great set of drawings and modeling instructions on the
NYC&HRRR standard stockyards. This in another in the series of professional
drawings from the "NYC Engineering Department" done by Mauel Duran-Duran
developed from one of our NYCSHS Drawing DVD's. Of course, like his past
drawings, Mauel had added considerable detail and precision to the final
product. He also gives us a little history about a fairly unknown aspect of
NYCS freight operations, livestock transport.

In this issue we offer a new feature for the NYCentral Modeler. For the
first time we have two excellent layout drawings of Alan Bell's layout done
by recent NYCSHS member and layout drawing artist, Frank Knight. Frank's
layout drawings will be a regular offering in future editions.

This is the largest NYCentral Modeler to date with almost 100 pages packed
with NYCS modeling information and photos. This is our eighth edition and
includes several pages of new products, new book and magazine highlights,
and letters to the editor.
Our president, Rich Stoving, in his regular column, asks us, "Who Are You".
In it, he talks about how he likes to "Model Railroad" and reminds us of the
many ways to enjoy our great hobby of modeling the NYCS.

To enjoy this edition and all of the other seven follow the instructions
below and let us know what you think.

Noel Widdifield
Editor, NYCentral Modeler
NYCBigFour@...




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Re: Quick end of wooden coal cars on the C&O Rwy

George Courtney
 

There was a Depression in the United States beginning in 1920 and not ending fully until 1922. While World War I demand could have kept those wooden hoppers in use, the sharp fall off of demand and government bailout money could have been the reason for retiring unneeded wooden cars and buying steel ones.
The Great Depression beginning in 1930 overshadows the much shorter Depression of 1920.

George Courtney

--- In STMFC@..., water.kresse@... wrote:



Early in this steam-era FC list period questions.



While looking pictures taken at blast furnaces located along the C&O, one still sees "old" 30 - 42.5-ton wooden hopper cars carrying iron ore or limestone up on the furnace stock trestles in 1922.  (The 1922  ORERs shows over 2,000 wooden hopper-bottom gons in their fleet and in late 1923 only a few hundred were remaining)   In 1923, they are virtually gone.  Looking at their 1922 annual report the Feds apparently had to provide low-interest loans to the railroads, which had been under their control, through a Transportation act of 1920 for replacing or the betterment of their rolling stock and locomotives used in the war effort.

 

Did the USRA or some other federal organization require the railroads had to keep their aging wood-constructed fleet until the war was over just to keep them from using steel that was being rationed for non-war materials such as building new cars ?  Even before the war, the C&O knew it had a " compatibility problem" with a mixed fleet of wooden and steel "battleships" in their operations.  Most of these coal cars had already gone through major repairs receiving steel center-sill end-stubs.  Most flat-bottom gons had received full steel center-sills.



The C&O had its fleet of "modern" post-1905 blt composite steel-underframe, wooden upper-structure 55-ton gondola cars that carried coal to the HV Toledo coal-dumpers.



D id other railroads keep wooden open-top cars this long?



Thanks for feedback in advance.



Al Kresse



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Re: 2nd Qtr. 2013 NYCentral Modeler Uploaded on NYCSHS Website

al_brown03
 

Haven't succeeded yet ...

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., "Noel Widdifield" <NYCBigFour@...> wrote:

The latest edition of the NYCentral Modeler has just been uploaded on the NYCSHS website. www.nycshs.org Be sure to check this one out.

NYCSHS member Charlie Crawford's layout models the NYC Adirondack Division of the NYCS. He has vacationed in the Adirondack Mountains for many years starting in 1976 and he loves being there. Since he can't be there all of the time, he created a model railroad to take him there when he is away. Join us as he tells us about his railroad and the interesting things he has included on his layout.

This edition features articles from Alan Bell on "A Busy Day at Albany Station", Charlie Crawford's "NYC's Adirondack Division", another in the series from Ron Parisi on " Manhattan's Greatest Train Yard - NYC's 60th Street Yard", the continuation of "Modeling the NYC in TT-Scale" by Paul Pickard, and the final in series on "Kitbashing Steam Locomotives" by Tom Bailey.

We have included a great set of drawings and modeling instructions on the NYC&HRRR standard stockyards. This in another in the series of professional drawings from the "NYC Engineering Department" done by Mauel Duran-Duran developed from one of our NYCSHS Drawing DVD's. Of course, like his past drawings, Mauel had added considerable detail and precision to the final product. He also gives us a little history about a fairly unknown aspect of NYCS freight operations, livestock transport.

In this issue we offer a new feature for the NYCentral Modeler. For the first time we have two excellent layout drawings of Alan Bell's layout done by recent NYCSHS member and layout drawing artist, Frank Knight. Frank's layout drawings will be a regular offering in future editions.

This is the largest NYCentral Modeler to date with almost 100 pages packed with NYCS modeling information and photos. This is our eighth edition and includes several pages of new products, new book and magazine highlights, and letters to the editor.
Our president, Rich Stoving, in his regular column, asks us, "Who Are You". In it, he talks about how he likes to "Model Railroad" and reminds us of the many ways to enjoy our great hobby of modeling the NYCS.

To enjoy this edition and all of the other seven follow the instructions below and let us know what you think.

Noel Widdifield
Editor, NYCentral Modeler
NYCBigFour@...


Re: Milwaukee Road stock car CMSTP&P. 104637

Gene Deimling
 

Doug
I just submitted two picture to the Leader for approval. They are of the same car kit but with different decorations.

Gene Deimling

--- In STMFC@..., "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@...> wrote:

Thank you Gene. Bob is a member of the MSTL list and he sought me out a few
years back at Naperville to show me his model of an M&StL boxcar, among
others. Very nice models, and a gracious individual. Which I why I initially
thought the MILW stockcar might be his. I see my photos of the stockcar have
been approved, so now everyone can see the model of the MILW stockcar that
Gene Green was asking about. I believe what caught his eye is the unusual
brake wheel components.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org





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Santa Fe Rr-44 Reefers

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

I'm looking for color images of Santa Fe Rr-44 ice bunker reefers.

The Rr-44s were a group of 350 cars built by Pullman Standard in 1946 and 1947 for the Santa Fe. The cars were purchased at a time when the railroad was busy rebuilding its many USRA ice bunker reefers. These cars were numbered 3500 to 3849.

There are a few black-and-white photos of Rr-44s in the Santa Fe Refrigerator Cars Ice Bunker Cars 1884-1979 book. Another black-and-white builder's photo appears in the Fourth Quarter 1988 issue of the Santa Fe Modeler and two more appear in the Second Quarter 2010 issue of the Warbonnet. One of those shows an Rr-44 after it had received a reinforcing strip below the door.

There are color photos available of a refrigerator car masquerading as an Rr-44 at a museum in Carona, Kansas, and I am aware of but have not seen a January 1996 Mainline Modeler article on this car by Edwin L. Martin.

Any help will be appreciated.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Quick end of wooden coal cars on the C&O Rwy

water.kresse@...
 

Early in this steam-era FC list period questions.



While looking pictures taken at blast furnaces located along the C&O, one still sees "old" 30 - 42.5-ton wooden hopper cars carrying iron ore or limestone up on the furnace stock trestles in 1922.  (The 1922  ORERs shows over 2,000 wooden hopper-bottom gons in their fleet and in late 1923 only a few hundred were remaining)   In 1923, they are virtually gone.  Looking at their 1922 annual report the Feds apparently had to provide low-interest loans to the railroads, which had been under their control, through a Transportation act of 1920 for replacing or the betterment of their rolling stock and locomotives used in the war effort.

 

Did the USRA or some other federal organization require the railroads had to keep their aging wood-constructed fleet until the war was over just to keep them from using steel that was being rationed for non-war materials such as building new cars ?  Even before the war, the C&O knew it had a " compatibility problem" with a mixed fleet of wooden and steel "battleships" in their operations.  Most of these coal cars had already gone through major repairs receiving steel center-sill end-stubs.  Most flat-bottom gons had received full steel center-sills.



The C&O had its fleet of "modern" post-1905 blt composite steel-underframe, wooden upper-structure 55-ton gondola cars that carried coal to the HV Toledo coal-dumpers.



D id other railroads keep wooden open-top cars this long?



Thanks for feedback in advance.



Al Kresse



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books for sale

ray mueller
 

railway prototype cyclopedia vol. 1 and 7 $35 + shipping please contact me off line or call 314-989-9650 thanks ray mueller


Re: Milwaukee Road stock car CMSTP&P. 104637

Douglas Harding
 

Thank you Gene. Bob is a member of the MSTL list and he sought me out a few
years back at Naperville to show me his model of an M&StL boxcar, among
others. Very nice models, and a gracious individual. Which I why I initially
thought the MILW stockcar might be his. I see my photos of the stockcar have
been approved, so now everyone can see the model of the MILW stockcar that
Gene Green was asking about. I believe what caught his eye is the unusual
brake wheel components.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


S-CL Modeler March 2013 available for download

Craig Zeni
 

Latest issue in now on line for download.

http://s-clmodeler.aclsal.org/

Articles include ACL Despatch Ventilators and a Georgia Railroad PS-1.




Craig Zeni
Cary NC


FS: The History of the New York Central System

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

For Sale: "The History of the New York Central System" by Aaron E. Klein
with 128 pages in both color and B&W

Dust cover shows wear and has some tears no more than 1" while book is in
very good condition.

$10 plus USPS postage at your choice of book rate or Priority Flat Rate



Allen Cain


FS: The History of the Union Pacific, America's Great Transcontinental

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

For Sale: "The History of the Union Pacific, America's Great
Transcontinental Railroad" by Cahill and Piade with 128 pages with both
color and B&W

Dust cover shows wear and has some tears no more than 1" while book is in
very good condition.

$10 plus USPS postage at your choice of book rate or Priority Flat Rate



Allen Cain


Re: covered Hoppers

Bruce Smith
 

John,

Um, carbon black was not a dense bulk proiduct and hence the carbon black LOs were some of the largest covered hoppers of the WWII era.

regards
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
________________________________________
From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of John Sykes [John.Sykes@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:31 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: covered Hoppers

Bill:

Yes, I knew that when I was writing my reply. Point is, before the 1960's covered hoppers were almost always used for dense, bulk products such as cement, lime, fertilizers, kaolin, carbon black and locomotive sand (dried).

In fact most boxcars had markings on the inside walls showing how deep different grains or other agricultural products (flour) could be loaded without exceeding the weight limit of the car. Since railroads had so many boxcars (in some cases, over 50% of their freight car fleets) and the need for agricultural use was usually limited to the autumn, there was no big impetus to develop special purpose cars for this service. Instead, you had things like Signode grain doors and hatches in the roofs added to standard box cars.

It was the increase in load limits and the demise in the standard house cars of the late 1960's due to containerization that led to development of special-purpose covered hoppers, although experimentation with such cars started as early as the 1940's at least.

-- John

--- In STMFC@..., Bill Daniels <billinsf@...> wrote:

Sorry, John, but while what you are talking about was true for covered hoppers from the mid 60's and later, Bill's question refers to cars that had a date of 1949 and in particular they are Kato two-bay ACF 70 ton hoppers. Four and five bay covered hoppers (with a few exceptions like PRR's H31 and 32 classes) were relatively unknown. Grain was universally carried in 40' boxcars (and would continue to be carried in boxcars until the late 1960's). Likewise, trough hatches, pneumatic outlet gates and other modern features (such as (gasp!) roller bearing trucks) were decades in the future. My comments refer to cars of that long-gone era.Â


Â
Bill Daniels
San Francisco, CA



________________________________
From: John Sykes <John.Sykes@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: covered Hoppers


Â
Au contraire.

First of all the size of the car. Two or three bay covered hoppers carry high density products such as cement, kaolin or lime (or in the good old days, carbon black). Four and five bay covered hoppers carry lighter materials such as plastic pellets, grain or flour. The cars carrying powdery or plastic products usually have circular loading hatches and either pneumatic or gravity outlet gates (more often, pneumatic). Grain cars have long loading hatches and have gravity outlets. Rule of thumb if you are modeling - substance that are powdery or blown into the car = circular hatches, grain(which doesn't flow that well) = long trouths. By the same token - substances that are unloaded pneumatically (again, powdery or light weight materials) = obviously, pneumatic outlets. Things that flow into underground hoppers when unloading(wheat, corn) = sliding outlet gates.

Now, what is in what car? If you buy a decorated car, usually RR owned cars (e.g., UPRR)or cars labeled for some agricultural owner (e.g., Wagner Mills, ADM, Cargill) are grain (some exceptions), if labeled for something like Dow, or duPont, probably plastic (although duPont also made titanium dioxide for paint & paper making - which is a high density powder material). I think most GATX, UTLX and other leased cars are used for plastic pellets, but some may be used for grain. If it is labeled Lone Star or CEMEX it is for cement.

-- John

--- In STMFC@..., Bill Daniels <billinsf@> wrote:

Bill,

Dring that era, covered hoppers were not used for grain... In fact that didn't happen until the "Big John" covered hoppers of the Southern in the early 60's. lading like flour wasn't shipped in covered hoppers until the advent of Airslide technology about 10 years after the date of your cars. It was most likely that these cars carried cement.

As for specific hardware, I don't know that any specific hardware could be viewed that would allow you to determine what lading was carried.

Bill Daniels

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 16, 2013, at 1:21 PM, "BillM" <fecbill@> wrote:

How do you tell (or can you tell) if a covered hopper is used for cement, or grain, or other loading. I am asking concerning physical/mechanical devices on the car such as top hatches and hopper unloading equipment as opposed to lettering, stencils or weathering.

Specifically I have three Kato HO scale 2 bay covered hoppers lettered for Milwaukee Road. The lettering indicates blt date of 1949.

Thank you
Bill Michael


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Re: Milwaukee Road stock car CMSTP&P. 104637

Gene Deimling
 

Doug
Here is the correct URL
http://www.proto48.org/p48_photos_leners.htm

Gene Deimling

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <proto48@...> wrote:

Doug
You can find pictures of Robert Leners models at my website.
Http://www.proto48.org/p48_models_lenders/htm

Gene Deimling


--- In STMFC@..., "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@> wrote:

Gene, after looking at photos again, I agree with you. And I have forwarded
that information to Gene Green. The photo that prompted his question is one
I gave him a few weeks ago, which I took at Naperville in 2010.
Unfortunately Dave Hussey did not take any photos of the stockcar Gene Green
asked about.



I have created a photo album "MILW Stockcar" and am awaiting approval of a
couple of photos of the model in question.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org





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Re: Milwaukee Road stock car CMSTP&P. 104637

Gene Deimling
 

Doug
You can find pictures of Robert Leners models at my website.
Http://www.proto48.org/p48_models_lenders/htm

Gene Deimling

--- In STMFC@..., "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@...> wrote:

Gene, after looking at photos again, I agree with you. And I have forwarded
that information to Gene Green. The photo that prompted his question is one
I gave him a few weeks ago, which I took at Naperville in 2010.
Unfortunately Dave Hussey did not take any photos of the stockcar Gene Green
asked about.



I have created a photo album "MILW Stockcar" and am awaiting approval of a
couple of photos of the model in question.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org





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HO resin kits for sale

arrphoto <arrphoto@...>
 

I have the following Resin HO kits for sale.

Sunshine Models 47.3 MILW Single sheathed boxcar complex tilted box logo $38

Westerfield 10155 DSS&A double sheathed modernized boxcar $35

Westerfield 10159 DSS&A double sheathed auto boxcar modernized $35.

These Westerfield cars are the one piece body castings.

Shipping extra.

Please contact me off list, thanks.

Curt Fortenberry


Re: covered Hoppers

Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
 

Greg,

Actually what I'm going to say is "Dang! I didn't know that..." I really wasn't aware (but I am not surprised) that the Pennsy was that much ahead of the curve regarding roller bearings on freight cars. As you know, most roads resisted roller bearings for the main reason that they felt that other roads would reap the benefits while they paid for the premium bearings. Maybe the PRR felt that these cars would be in mostly captive service... I know that I never saw one (except on a neighbor's Lionel train set).


 
Bill Daniels
San Francisco, CA



________________________________
From: "tgregmrtn@..." <tgregmrtn@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: covered Hoppers


 
Bill writes:
...and other modern features (such as (gasp!) roller bearing trucks) were
decades in the future. My comments refer to cars of that long-gone era.


Bill.

You are going to say, "dang-it, I know that" when I remind you that the
PRR shop built H33's were delivered with roller bearing journals in their
trucks.

Greg Martin

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