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Re: buying model screws

erict1361 <erict1361@...>
 

I was buying #256 screws from " Fastenal" at a really good price, like 10 cents each, until they started charging for the shipping to their stores. $6.50 added on to the cost, so it's no longer worth it ! I never heard of a Store who charges you shipping when you order at the store and have the item shipped to the store. Kinda like your local hobby shop charging you $6.50 for the Bowser Box car Kit you ordered through them. But at least I bought enough to hold me for a while.

Eric Thur

--- In STMFC@..., Alan Kilby <albyrno@...> wrote:

No one (in the hobby business) is going to get rich selling screws or even pay the power bill, but you have to wonder why the LHS operator just doesn't buy the common size screws in bulk and repackage them himself. Offer two or three times as many as are in the Walthers packet for the same price, or he could even sell screws individually. The dime screw that gets the customer in the store might lead to a thirty dollar impulse purchase.
 
Jack Wyatt 


  The profit margin for fasteners is small but helps sales of other items by providing tools/parts to repair them if they break or upgrade them.This encourages the customer to come back and buy more of the same or other items.
 Alan



Re: screws

Joseph Lofland
 

Check into "Fastenal" http://www.fastenal.com/web/home.ex

I got my last 1000 2-56 slotted 3/8 screws from them.........called,
ordered, picked them up at the store 3 days later....piece of cake.

Joe Lofland
JJLModels


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM, EdwardM <ed_mines@...> wrote:

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I've bought at least a dozen boxes of short (2-56?) screws. Someone can
get 1000+ assorted screws for attaching trucks cheap when I go to the next
world.

Athearn screws are a specialty item - they are self tapping I think - but
I've never had a problem using an ordinary screw. You may have a problem if
you don't predrill a resin bolster or use the wrong size drill.

Penny wise and pound foolish.



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Re: What Kind Of Car Is This? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Bob;

I do not know what TSP Co is, but this looks like a "tank car inside of box car" arrangement, like the later Linde Cars had. I know someone on this list has the definitive answer, and I can't wait to hear it.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:12 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] What Kind Of Car Is This?



This image is from the Columbus Railroads website (www.ColumbusRailroads.com) and shows an unusual (to me, anyway) car roof:

http://www.columbusrailroads.com/new/images/photos-ralston/d6-RSCCO-148-ICE%20CAR%20ROOF-1200.jpg

A similar roof appears on a car in the upper right portion of the photo.

Can anyone identify what type of car this is?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA





Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


What Kind Of Car Is This?

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

This image is from the Columbus Railroads website (www.ColumbusRailroads.com) and shows an unusual (to me, anyway) car roof:

http://www.columbusrailroads.com/new/images/photos-ralston/d6-RSCCO-148-ICE%20CAR%20ROOF-1200.jpg

A similar roof appears on a car in the upper right portion of the photo.

Can anyone identify what type of car this is?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


screws

ed_mines
 

I've bought at least a dozen boxes of short (2-56?) screws. Someone can get 1000+ assorted screws for attaching trucks cheap when I go to the next world.

Athearn screws are a specialty item - they are self tapping I think - but I've never had a problem using an ordinary screw. You may have a problem if you don't predrill a resin bolster or use the wrong size drill.

Penny wise and pound foolish.


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Re: buying model screws

albyrno
 

No one (in the hobby business) is going to get rich selling screws or even pay the power bill, but you have to wonder why the LHS operator just doesn't buy the common size screws in bulk and repackage them himself. Offer two or three times as many as are in the Walthers packet for the same price, or he could even sell screws individually. The dime screw that gets the customer in the store might lead to a thirty dollar impulse purchase.
 
Jack Wyatt 


  The profit margin for fasteners is small but helps sales of other items by providing tools/parts to repair them if they break or upgrade them.This encourages the customer to come back and buy more of the same or other items.
 Alan

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Re: buying model screws

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Really!?
.05 a screw for extra length?
Find another source. I pay $0.50 more per 100 for 3/8 over 1/4.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., Dennis Williams <pennsy6200@...> wrote:


Please remember:  check size!!!  1/4 inch will be more pricy that 3/8ths.  Could be as much as .05 each. I buy by the 1000. That can be costly. All I do is cut it down with a crimping tool.

Dennis Williams/Owner
http://www.resinbuilders4u.com/


________________________________
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:11 PM
Subject: [STMFC] buying model screws


 

This topic has come up before. I wanted to add to the information we've already developed. A number of on-line sellers, such as Fastenal, Bolt Depot, Microfasteners, Grainger and others, all sell the kinds of screws we use at prices for a box of 100 screws which are similar to the Walther price for a package of 10 or 12 screws. Simplest way to find these vendors is to Google something like "machine screws 2-56 x 1/4" or whatever size you want, and the names will come right up. For some sizes, you will even find that Google returns Amazon as a seller. I've just bought a couple more boxes of 100 each, not because I'm likely to ever use them all, but because using only ten of them already puts me ahead of Walthers.
So next time you need screws, don't yield to that impulse at the hobby shop. Buy 'em in bulk.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, mailto:tony%40signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history




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Re: buying model screws

albyrno
 

I go to one of the local ace hardware stores they sell very small metric(1mm) and sae screws(00-90) individually,being 120 miles from a hobby shop that might have them its very convenient,if I need something unusual I go to a fastener only store that sells them individually,having been victim of identity theft once I put no personal info. on internet,phone or mail if it can be avoided therefore I don't buy on-line.I sometimes have to cut them shorter and dress end with mini file but this is an easy task.
     Alan


Re: buying model screws

Charles Hladik
 

Jck,
We used to do that at Trains Unlimited in Lynchburg, Virginia. It was
appreciated and a good deal for all involved. We had a ton of detail and
scratchbuilding supplies but couldn't do much with the pricing of motive
power and rolling stock. Sad to say, Trains Unlimited is now one of the ones
that has gone down in history, leaving us to drive 60 miles to the nearest
shop.
So, please do your best to support your LHS.
Chuck Hladik

In a message dated 6/20/2013 12:57:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cjwyatt@... writes:




<<
Brian, I thought about this point, and perhaps I should have pointed out
that packaging and distributing small numbers of screws, as Walthers does
and which your LHS sells, is an expensive process. So compared to bulk
prices, sure, it's very pricey, but for convenience, it may serve your needs. But
on this topic, as on any kind of issue of "LHS vs. somebody else," the LHS
has to compete, whatever it takes. Better service, more consistent stock,
knowledgeable employees, all the things you may not find on line. Actually,
I DO try to buy at my LHS when I can. But not at a price ratio of more
than ten to one.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
No one (in the hobby business) is going to get rich selling screws or even
pay the power bill, but you have to wonder why the LHS operator just
doesn't buy the common size screws in bulk and repackage them himself. Offer two
or three times as many as are in the Walthers packet for the same price,
or he could even sell screws individually. The dime screw that gets the
customer in the store might lead to a thirty dollar impulse purchase.

Jack Wyatt

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Re: buying model screws

Dennis Williams
 

Please remember:  check size!!!  1/4 inch will be more pricy that 3/8ths.  Could be as much as .05 each. I buy by the 1000. That can be costly. All I do is cut it down with a crimping tool.

Dennis Williams/Owner
http://www.resinbuilders4u.com/


________________________________
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:11 PM
Subject: [STMFC] buying model screws


 

This topic has come up before. I wanted to add to the information we've already developed. A number of on-line sellers, such as Fastenal, Bolt Depot, Microfasteners, Grainger and others, all sell the kinds of screws we use at prices for a box of 100 screws which are similar to the Walther price for a package of 10 or 12 screws. Simplest way to find these vendors is to Google something like "machine screws 2-56 x 1/4" or whatever size you want, and the names will come right up. For some sizes, you will even find that Google returns Amazon as a seller. I've just bought a couple more boxes of 100 each, not because I'm likely to ever use them all, but because using only ten of them already puts me ahead of Walthers.
So next time you need screws, don't yield to that impulse at the hobby shop. Buy 'em in bulk.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, mailto:tony%40signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history




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Re: NEB&W MOW Kitbashes - Seeking MDC/Roundhouse Parts

Barry Bennett
 

Hiya

Some nice photos showing a mix of prototype and model work on the NE&BW.

Barry


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

**


We've been cranking through a number of wood MOW passenger car kitbashes
in the basement of Davison Hall and have run out of the MDC/Roundhouse
50-foot underframe for their "Overland" open platform passenger cars. We
think this is the best representation in plastic of an open vestibule set
of stairs and the length, 50 feet, is good for a lot of uses. Here are
exmples of what Nehrich is working on:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.298724703547412.72305.298135620272987&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.298724703547412.72305.298135620272987&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.298724703547412.72305.298135620272987&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.298724703547412.72305.298135620272987&type=3

Anyone looking to get rid of any of these kits in ANY condition, or even
just this one piece, that they would like to donate/sell at a resonable
price to the RPI club? Thanks in advance!

Link to our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/NEBandW


Ben Hom

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Re: buying model screws

C J Wyatt
 

<<
Brian, I thought about this point, and perhaps I should have pointed out that packaging and distributing small numbers of screws, as Walthers does and which your LHS sells, is an expensive process. So compared to bulk prices, sure, it's very pricey, but for convenience, it may serve your needs. But on this topic, as on any kind of issue of "LHS vs. somebody else," the LHS has to compete, whatever it takes. Better service, more consistent stock, knowledgeable employees, all the things you may not find on line. Actually, I DO try to buy at my LHS when I can. But not at a price ratio of more than ten to one.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
No one (in the hobby business) is going to get rich selling screws or even pay the power bill, but you have to wonder why the LHS operator just doesn't buy the common size screws in bulk and repackage them himself. Offer two or three times as many as are in the Walthers packet for the same price, or he could even sell screws individually. The dime screw that gets the customer in the store might lead to a thirty dollar impulse purchase.
 
Jack Wyatt

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Re: buying model screws

Tony Thompson
 

Brian Ehni (A former LHS owner) wrote:
Heck. Just buy everything online because it's cheaper! Who needs an LHS anyway, right?
Brian, I thought about this point, and perhaps I should have pointed out that packaging and distributing small numbers of screws, as Walthers does and which your LHS sells, is an expensive process. So compared to bulk prices, sure, it's very pricey, but for convenience, it may serve your needs. But on this topic, as on any kind of issue of "LHS vs. somebody else," the LHS has to compete, whatever it takes. Better service, more consistent stock, knowledgeable employees, all the things you may not find on line. Actually, I DO try to buy at my LHS when I can. But not at a price ratio of more than ten to one.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: buying model screws

 

Heck. Just buy everything online because it's cheaper! Who needs an LHS anyway, right?

Thanks!
Brian Ehni
(A former LHS owner)
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

This topic has come up before. I wanted to add to the information we've already developed. A number of on-line sellers, such as Fastenal, Bolt Depot, Microfasteners, Grainger and others, all sell the kinds of screws we use at prices for a box of 100 screws which are similar to the Walther price for a package of 10 or 12 screws. Simplest way to find these vendors is to Google something like "machine screws 2-56 x 1/4" or whatever size you want, and the names will come right up. For some sizes, you will even find that Google returns Amazon as a seller. I've just bought a couple more boxes of 100 each, not because I'm likely to ever use them all, but because using only ten of them already puts me ahead of Walthers.
So next time you need screws, don't yield to that impulse at the hobby shop. Buy 'em in bulk.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


buying model screws

Tony Thompson
 

This topic has come up before. I wanted to add to the information we've already developed. A number of on-line sellers, such as Fastenal, Bolt Depot, Microfasteners, Grainger and others, all sell the kinds of screws we use at prices for a box of 100 screws which are similar to the Walther price for a package of 10 or 12 screws. Simplest way to find these vendors is to Google something like "machine screws 2-56 x 1/4" or whatever size you want, and the names will come right up. For some sizes, you will even find that Google returns Amazon as a seller. I've just bought a couple more boxes of 100 each, not because I'm likely to ever use them all, but because using only ten of them already puts me ahead of Walthers.
So next time you need screws, don't yield to that impulse at the hobby shop. Buy 'em in bulk.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


NEB&W MOW Kitbashes - Seeking MDC/Roundhouse Parts

Benjamin Hom
 

We've been cranking through a number of wood MOW passenger car kitbashes in the basement of Davison Hall and have run out of the MDC/Roundhouse 50-foot underframe for their "Overland" open platform passenger cars. We think this is the best representation in plastic of an open vestibule set of stairs and the length, 50 feet, is good for a lot of uses.  Here are exmples of what Nehrich is working on:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.298724703547412.72305.298135620272987&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.298724703547412.72305.298135620272987&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.298724703547412.72305.298135620272987&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.298724703547412.72305.298135620272987&type=3
 
Anyone looking to get rid of any of these kits in ANY condition, or even just this one piece, that they would like to donate/sell at a resonable price to the RPI club?  Thanks in advance!
 
Link to our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/NEBandW
 

Ben Hom


Re: Frustrations with Sunshine's Kit #104-2 NJI&I 3000 series #104-2

Bill Welch
 

Yes Bruce is correct, I committed a typo with the "4." instead of a "5."

I want to emphasize that this is the only kit I ever encountered form Sunshine with this size problem. The situation with the ends is bizarre and totally out of character with the line in my experience of building well over 200 Sunshine kits.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "Bruce F. Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:

Just to clarify... I think Bill had a typo... the two sides are not 1" different in length, are they?

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Pierre wrote:

Bill's description of the issues he's having mirror exactly the issues I had when I first saw that kit.
It's not a packing issue.
Pierre OLiver

--- In STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...>, Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@> wrote:

Bill,

It possible that the kit was incorrectly packed and/or contains incorrect parts. Certainly the disparity in side lengths would indicate that.

I had one about 2 years back (MoPac 36' rebuilt boxcar), which contained sides that were clearly 40' long and somewhat lacking in height compared to the ends!

Luckily, I'd only started cleaning flash off when I noticed, so re-packed and returned the whole kit for a replacement (which was correct in every regard)

Hence I now always visually check the contents for completeness and size when the kit first arrives.

So it might be worth contacting Sunshine to arrange a swap, depending on how far into construction you've got?

HTH,
Alan Monk
Reading, UK

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Re: Frustrations with Sunshine's Kit #104-2 NJI&I 3000 series #104-2

Bruce Smith
 

Just to clarify... I think Bill had a typo... the two sides are not 1" different in length, are they?

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Pierre wrote:

Bill's description of the issues he's having mirror exactly the issues I had when I first saw that kit.
It's not a packing issue.
Pierre OLiver

--- In STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...>, Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@...> wrote:

Bill,

It possible that the kit was incorrectly packed and/or contains incorrect parts. Certainly the disparity in side lengths would indicate that.

I had one about 2 years back (MoPac 36' rebuilt boxcar), which contained sides that were clearly 40' long and somewhat lacking in height compared to the ends!

Luckily, I'd only started cleaning flash off when I noticed, so re-packed and returned the whole kit for a replacement (which was correct in every regard)

Hence I now always visually check the contents for completeness and size when the kit first arrives.

So it might be worth contacting Sunshine to arrange a swap, depending on how far into construction you've got?

HTH,
Alan Monk
Reading, UK

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Re: Frustrations with Sunshine's Kit #104-2 NJI&I 3000 series #104-2

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Bill's description of the issues he's having mirror exactly the issues I had when I first saw that kit.
It's not a packing issue.
Pierre OLiver

--- In STMFC@..., Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@...> wrote:

Bill,

It possible that the kit was incorrectly packed and/or contains incorrect parts. Certainly the disparity in side lengths would indicate that.

I had one about 2 years back (MoPac 36' rebuilt boxcar), which contained sides that were clearly 40' long and somewhat lacking in height compared to the ends!

Luckily, I'd only started cleaning flash off when I noticed, so re-packed and returned the whole kit for a replacement (which was correct in every regard)

Hence I now always visually check the contents for completeness and size when the kit first arrives.

So it might be worth contacting Sunshine to arrange a swap, depending on how far into construction you've got?

HTH,
Alan Monk
Reading, UK

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