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Red Caboose "Bagged" kits

Scott H. Haycock
 

I recently bought a few of these kits at a train show; some tank car and a couple PFE reefers, for kitbashing parts. While the instruction sheets, and some of the parts don't match what is in the bag, as a collection of parts, these seemed to be a fair deal at $6.00 to $8.00 a kit.

I've never seen Red Caboose kits packaged this way. Are these the same I.M. castings as their regular kits, or are they something different?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Scott Haycock


Re: Texas and Pacific 40632

Bill Vaughn
 

Ben thanks for the article reference.  Any idea of the color of the roof or underframe.

Bill Vaughn


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From: Benjamin Hom <b.hom@att.net>
To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Texas and Pacific 40632



 
Bill Vaughn asked:
"Also would like to see a picture of one with the Youngstown door."
 
T&P 40000-40999, 1937 AAR steel boxcar.  Builder's photo published in the July 1994 issue of Railmodel Journal:
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/476/34703/july-1994-page-13
 
 
Ben Hom

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Superior Brake sets --SOLD OUT

Andy Carlson
 

I am now sold out of the RC Superior brake sets.
-Andy Carlson


Re: Texas and Pacific 40632

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Vaughn asked:
"Also would like to see a picture of one with the Youngstown door."
 
T&P 40000-40999, 1937 AAR steel boxcar.  Builder's photo published in the July 1994 issue of Railmodel Journal:
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/476/34703/july-1994-page-13
 
 
Ben Hom

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Texas and Pacific 40632

Bill Vaughn
 

Does any one know what color the roof and underframe were on the original paint scheme? Also would like to see a picture of one with the Youngstown door. Any help thanks in advance.

Bill Vaughn


Rock Island RR freight car red...

midrly
 

I know that Trucolor makes a specific paint, #197. I am finishing Westerfield's model of an RI stock car, and want to model it as one of these cars would have looked in late 1956.

Using some Floquil paint that I've on hand (I live in Canada, so can't get Trucolor paint very quickly) and comparing with the online paint swathces from Trucolor, I quickly came up with a 50/50 mix of Floquil F11002 Tuscan and F110186 Oxide Red.

Am I close for a weathered car, or have others on this list an idea for a better match with Floquil paints? I have most of their red oxide colours.

With thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.


HO Superior Brake sets by Red Caboose

Andy Carlson
 

Hello

I have several dozen new SUPERIOR power brake sets in injected molded styrene. Set consists of:
*Brake Wheel
*Power Brake housing
*Chain/Rod connection to lower end sill
Tooled by the Red Caboose, formerly offered by the C&NW society.


Priced at $2.50/sprue.

I am shipping these in a military grade plastic box packed inside a padded 1st class envelope.
Buyer to pay $3.00 shipping for one or more sets.

If interested, contact me off-list (Please) at <midcentury@sbcglobal.net> I accept checks and money orders. for a small fee I can also accept PayPal.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Sylvania Central RR in Georgia

bill davis <billcheri72@...>
 

John,
Can you send me that Sylvania Central information too
Thanks
BILL




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From: John <golden1014@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 7:19 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Sylvania Central RR in Georgia



 
Hi Richard,

I have some information I'll send you offline.

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Richard White" <rhwhite@...> wrote:

Steam era freight car discussion group. The time period covered will be from 1900-1960.I am building the Arbor Models kit of Sylvania Central 103 (and not finding it as difficult as some folks suggest).
She will need some cars to haul. I believe I am right in thinking that the SylvaniaCentral, in common with many shortlines, owned no freight cars of its own but relied on using those of the nearest class 1 railroad, in this case the C of G which owned it.
Does any member know where I can get information on the Sylvania Central's one and only combine? Am I right in thinking it was painted dark green as suggested by the contemporary Howard Fogg painting in 'Mixed Train Daily' and as shown in the modern painting by Don Coker? Does anyone know its number?
I have tried Google without luck but living in Botswana have no chance of finding a copy of Mallory Hope Ferrell's book 'Slow Train Down South' which might have the answer.
Pace Mike, the combine doubled as the caboose. My email addres is rhwhite@... if you don't want to risk Mike's ire.
Thank you for your help
With best wishes
Richard White

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Re: Sylvania Central RR in Georgia

golden1014
 

Hi Richard,

I have some information I'll send you offline.

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Richard White" <rhwhite@...> wrote:

Steam era freight car discussion group. The time period covered will be from 1900-1960.I am building the Arbor Models kit of Sylvania Central 103 (and not finding it as difficult as some folks suggest).
She will need some cars to haul. I believe I am right in thinking that the SylvaniaCentral, in common with many shortlines, owned no freight cars of its own but relied on using those of the nearest class 1 railroad, in this case the C of G which owned it.
Does any member know where I can get information on the Sylvania Central's one and only combine? Am I right in thinking it was painted dark green as suggested by the contemporary Howard Fogg painting in 'Mixed Train Daily' and as shown in the modern painting by Don Coker? Does anyone know its number?
I have tried Google without luck but living in Botswana have no chance of finding a copy of Mallory Hope Ferrell's book 'Slow Train Down South' which might have the answer.
Pace Mike, the combine doubled as the caboose. My email addres is rhwhite@... if you don't want to risk Mike's ire.
Thank you for your help
With best wishes
Richard White



Re: PFE 1950s Ice Reefer Decals

Dick Harley
 

A few questions have come up, so I am going to answer them here and send this out to several lists.
Please keep in mind that when I say "ok" below, I don't mean it is correct, but just that 90+% of prototype modelers will find it acceptable.
I don't have any Walthers decals, so I can't comment on them.
Also, FYI, the UP medallions are measured vertically from tip to tip.

1) Is there anything incorrect on the old one [Microscale 87-501]?

The shorter answer would be what is correct on the old -501 sheet. The medallions are sort of ok, but the new ones are better. The reporting marks and road numbers are about the right size, but are spaced wrong. The words "Pacific Fruit Express" are ok, except the "A" is the wrong shape and the PAC in Pacific is spaced way too far apart. "Refrigerator" and class numbers are about 85% of correct size. "Fans, Stage Icing", capy. data, and dimen. data are about 75% of correct size. I have not figured out (and don't intend to) what classes are represented by that data, so I don't know what they are. There is a spreadsheet in the new instructions that tells you what data goes with which class. The repack stencils are pretty good.
REMEMBER: The new set has two identical sheets, which are not dated.


2) There were a few variations of this: "What about us pre-1950's modeler's?"

First off, the 1960s ice reefer set will be my next PFE project, because I want it. Then I will redo the -414 set. Lots of the artwork is done for that set, but I need to do the research to get all the appropriate class data, and then match to photos - no small task. However, I expect to have that done in about 6 months - I do several other things besides PFE decals.

The June 1946 to June 1950 period (with the double medallions and the color 45-inch UP medallion) is presently covered by either the Microscale -414 set (REVISED 4-95) or the Champ SHS-190 set with substitute UP medallion. The Microscale medallions are sort of ok; the Champ SP medallion is about 6% oversize, and their UP medallion is hopelessly wrong - shape and lettering. Champ's version of "Pacific Fruit Express" is pretty good; the -414 version is too short and has some funny letter shapes. The -414 class and capy. data is much too extended, and the dimen. data is about 80% of correct size. The Champ capy. and dimen. data are too extended. Both Microscale and Champ provide data with and without "lbs.", "ft." and "in." Those units were removed from PFE lettering in 1947.

The Jan. 1936 to July 1942 period (color 42-inch UP medallion without "System", but with Overland banner) and the July 1942 to June 1946 period (color 42-inch UP medallion without the Overland banner) is presently covered by either the Microscale -4021 minical set (Revised 03/06) or the Champ SHS-190 set with substitute UP medallion. As I recall, the Microscale medallions are pretty good, as are the Champ versions of the UP medallions - though I have not sized any of them recently. It's been awhile since I looked at those sets, but I suspect the -4021 may have similar problems with the lettering and some funny number shapes.

Before 1936 - I don't know.


3) Are there decals for the Dark Olive express reefers with Imitation Gold lettering?

Champ had set BRH-340. I have not analyzed it for accuracy.
There may be others choices that I don't know.
If enough people ask, maybe Microscale would do a minical. But it will be awhile before I can get around to that artwork, and if someone else puts the art together, who knows what data you will get. It's on my list but not near the top.


Have a good July 4th,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA


Re: gluing to Delrin

John
 

Tony:

Loctite makes a two-part adhesive specifically for delrin-type plastics.

There is a pretreatment product called Loctite 770 Primer, which you brush-on, then complete the bond with Loctite 401 Instant Adhesive (CCA). I have some but have not used it yet. I have read some articles that says it really works well.

-- John

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Has anyone tried Microscale's product Micro Bond? I have used the Loctite "Plastic Bonder" in the past, which kind of works. I did find that a brief exposure to flame of the Delrin surface to be bonded seems to help greatly, supposedly altering the chemical bonds at the material surface.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: PFE 1950s Ice Reefer Decals

Tony Thompson
 

Bruce Smith wrote:
What about us pre 1950's modeler's? Last I checked the Microscale set for the 1942-46 and 1946-1950 schemes was pretty bad...
The older Microscale 414 set gives you good color UP medallions of the 1942 or 1946 paint schemes. Both it and the new 501 set give you lots of data blocks for the different classes, and class designations. I have always used parts of the old Champ set SHS-190 for lettering that was wrongly sized or missing in the old Microscale 501, and the Champ lettering does offer some stuff you can use for earlier periods. It only has B&W UP emblems so is aimed at post-1950 cars, but don't be fooled, as it does have older lettering included. Champ may just have pulled together a lot of existing stuff to make the big set. For the pre-1942 UP emblem with the diagonal Overland banner, I think the best decals are the old Walthers 1503 set. I only have a couple of sets, but luckily for me, by my 1953 modeling date, this emblem was all but extinct.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: PFE 1940s Ice Reefer Decals, was PFE 1950s Ice Reefer Decals

Tony Thompson
 

Don Valentine wrote:

And what might be recommended for the 1940's, especially the postwar years?

Microscale set 87-414, though designed for R-40-23 cars, can do the double-medallion scheme with color UP emblems for other classes. If you have a fairly old one, however, I recommend buying a fresh one, as it was revised several years ago (I don't know the date).

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


FREE B&O photo

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Gize, I've uploaded B&O photo to the photo files area. It's a new album titled "A free
B&O Photo." I have insufficient wall space to display this, and I am sure that someone on
this list would be happy to get this, free of any charge whatsoever, in their mailbox. I
do have the photographer's name somewhere, and will supply that to whomever collects this.
I received this as a door prize at an Erie Lackawanna Historical Society meeting (go
figure).



Obviously, our fearless leader (one of them) has to approve the photo . . .



Contact me off list, and it's yours.



I will delete the album as soon as this finds its new home.



It is an 8x10 wood frame, and a 5x7 image. The scan may not be so great, because I
scanned it through the non-glare glass in the frame.



Schuyler


New Department of Defense (DODX, USAX, USNX, etc.) pages

Lee Gautreaux
 

Happy Independence Day everybody! I am taking the occasion of the celebration of our country's independence to release a series of pages I have been working on for a few months dedicated to railcars of the Department of Defense (DODX and other marks from the past.) While there is considerable work left to do on the pages, I believe they are ready for public perusal. See the pages at the following:

http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/other_cars/dodx_cars/index.htm

The majority of information available at this time is more relevant to the modern freight car era (post 1960) simply because that is the information that is more readily available at this time. However, I plan on covering all eras over time.

I hope these pages are useful and welcome any assistance, correction,
submissions or suggestions.

Take care,

Lee A. Gautreaux - The RailGoat
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/


Re: gluing to Delrin

bill davis <billcheri72@...>
 

Dr Mike's has a glue for delrin.
http://www.drmikesglue.com/prodinfo.html
BILL




________________________________
From: Tony Thompson <tony@signaturepress.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: [STMFC] gluing to Delrin



 
Has anyone tried Microscale's product Micro Bond? I have used the Loctite "Plastic Bonder" in the past, which kind of works. I did find that a brief exposure to flame of the Delrin surface to be bonded seems to help greatly, supposedly altering the chemical bonds at the material surface.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history




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Re: PFE 1950s Ice Reefer Decals

Bruce Smith
 

Dick,

What about us pre 1950's modeler's? Last I checked the Microscale set for the 1942-46 and 1946-1950 schemes was pretty bad...

Regards
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [STMFC@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Dick Harley [dick.harley4up@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:05 AM
To: STMFC; UP_Modelers; Classic_UP; Espee@yahoo; Citrus Modeling Group
Subject: [STMFC] PFE 1950s Ice Reefer Decals

After more years of procrastination than I knew I was capable, the
totally revised Microscale decal sets 87-501 (HO scale) and 60-501 (N
scale) are now available (I have one in my hand). These decals are
for 40ft wood or steel PFE ice reefers painted between June 1950 and
April 1960. The set contains two identical sheets, has lettering for
at least six cars, has capy. and dimen. data for 16 different
classes, and has plenty of extras to improve pre-painted factory
lettering.
Order through your local shop or directly from Microscale's website:
http://www.microscale.com/

This set was completely redrawn from scratch using PFE, UP and SP
drawings for the medallions and all the lettering shapes and sizes.
Then, all lettering was compared to a multitude of photos do be sure
everything was scale size and spacing. It was during that photo
comparison process when I discovered that there were two versions of
the 45-inch black & white UP medallion (due to a UP drawing
dimensioning error) - note the space above the word "UNION". Both
versions are included.

I have artwork available for anyone wanting to make decals in another
scale - including full size.

A 1960s set is in process.


Enjoy,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA




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Re: gluing to Delrin

ghslaw31
 

Tony,
Have you tried the cyanopoxy glues for attaching things to Delrin? They come in a variety of names, I have had good luck with one called "Sinbad". It is sort of an adhesive of last resort.
Gerry Siegel


Re: PFE 1950s Ice Reefer Decals

James Fellows
 

Dick,



How are the sheets that these replaced? I have a unused sheet and a few
cars to do. Is there anything incorrect on the old one.



Thanks,



Jim Fellows



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dick
Harley
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 1:06 AM
To: STMFC; UP_Modelers; Classic_UP; Espee@yahoo; Citrus Modeling Group
Subject: [STMFC] PFE 1950s Ice Reefer Decals





After more years of procrastination than I knew I was capable, the
totally revised Microscale decal sets 87-501 (HO scale) and 60-501 (N e
scale) are now available (I have one in my hand). These decals are
for 40ft wood or steel PFE ice reefers painted between June 1950 and
April 1960. The set contains two identical sheets, has lettering for
at least six cars, has capy. and dimen. data for 16 different
classes, and has plenty of extras to improve pre-painted factory
lettering.
Order through your local shop or directly from Microscale's website:
http://www.microscale.com/

This set was completely redrawn from scratch using PFE, UP and SP
drawings for the medallions and all the lettering shapes and sizes.
Then, all lettering was compared to a multitude of photos do be sure
everything was scale size and spacing. It was during that photo
comparison process when I discovered that there were two versions of
the 45-inch black & white UP medallion (due to a UP drawing
dimensioning error) - note the space above the word "UNION". Both
versions are included.

I have artwork available for anyone wanting to make decals in another
scale - including full size.

A 1960s set is in process.

Enjoy,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA


Re: Sylvania Central RR in Georgia

Todd Horton
 

Richard, I think the Central of Georgia Railway Historical Society has some pics of the combine you're looking for. Try CGRHS.org

Todd Horton


________________________________
From: Richard White <rhwhite@botsnet.bw>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 2:04 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Sylvania Central RR in Georgia

 

Steam era freight car discussion group. The time period covered will be from 1900-1960.I am building the Arbor Models kit of Sylvania Central 103 (and not finding it as difficult as some folks suggest).
She will need some cars to haul. I believe I am right in thinking that the SylvaniaCentral, in common with many shortlines, owned no freight cars of its own but relied on using those of the nearest class 1 railroad, in this case the C of G which owned it.
Does any member know where I can get information on the Sylvania Central's one and only combine? Am I right in thinking it was painted dark green as suggested by the contemporary Howard Fogg painting in 'Mixed Train Daily' and as shown in the modern painting by Don Coker? Does anyone know its number?
I have tried Google without luck but living in Botswana have no chance of finding a copy of Mallory Hope Ferrell's book 'Slow Train Down South' which might have the answer.
Pace Mike, the combine doubled as the caboose. My email addres is mailto:rhwhite%40botsnet.bw if you don't want to risk Mike's ire.
Thank you for your help
With best wishes
Richard White

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