Would Anyone know if any of the "Butter Dish" Milk Tank cars that Borden
transferred from Milk hauling to Elmer's Glue hauling, "Chemical
Division"Would Anyone know if any of the "Butter Dish" Milk Tank cars

To my knowledge, they were at one time painted with a orange tank body

black frame.

Mal Houck

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Would Anyone know if any of the "Butter Dish" Milk Tank cars that Borden
transferred from Milk hauling to Elmer's Glue hauling, "Chemical
Division"Would Anyone know if any of the "Butter Dish" Milk Tank cars that Bord

To my knowledge, they were at one time painted with a orange tank body on a
black frame.

Mal Houck

On Jul 12, 2013, at 6:14 AM, mumpseee <eric.mumper@...> wrote:

Group,

Doing some research on CB&Q 70T cars built in the early 50s shows them riding on their no. 73 truck as shown in the picture on the link:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=765062

These trucks were under the ballast hoppers, offset triple hoppers, and 1958 cuft covered hoppers. To my mostly untrained eye, these look closest to the Proto2000 spring plankless, but the bolster on the 70T version looks wider. Is there a better HO scale choice for these? By the time I am done I will probably need 40 pairs of these and was hoping for something a little closer if possible. Maybe if this type of truck was common enough they could warrant production. Thanks.

Eric, those trucks are a 70 ton AAR self-aligning spring-plankless double truss design. You're right about the bolster end being wider; in fact, the whole trucks is bigger, 5'8" wheelbase as opposed to 5'6" on 50 ton trucks. No one makes an exact duplicate of that truck in HO scale, but the closest equivalent - and it's very close - is the ex-Red Caboose 70 ton Barber S-2 which is in the process of being improved and re-issued by Hi-Tech. It has the triangle snubber pockets inside the ends of the bolsters, which the Q truck does not, but those are subtle and in other respects it represents the Q trucks very well - spring arrangement, bolster end, etc. If you want to pursue getting these trucks in sizable numbers, e-mail me off-list and I'll give you contact information for Hi Tech.

Richard Hendrickson

1. Atlas O Scale Trainman CPR 52' 6" Steel Flat Car Information
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Hi All,

I was contacted by an other S Scale manufacturer, Bill Wade of BTS, about the
Atlas O Scale Trainman CPR 52' 6" Steel Flat Car. He says that Atlas claims it
is a CPR prototype that was built in 1953.

Here's the part that has him intrigued. The boards don't go across the car but
go the along the length of the car like a checker board.

If you go to this link, you will see what he means.
http://www.btsrr.com/pix/atlas-flat-orig-deck.jpg

Based on a MM Nov. 2002 aticle, Bill knows this is in fact correct for 99 of 800
and I think he wants to produce this car in S Scale. What Bill would like to
know is what the deck of the other 701 in the series looked like.

Thanks in advance for any help concerning this matter.

cheers,

Andy Malette

I have good photos of these cars, ends, sides, roof and even the undersides. Lackawanna got 'em with both Youngstown and Superior doors and the cars wore all three DL&W paint schemes. They were not common after the 1960 Erie merger, and no pictures have surfaced of any painted for EL.

To my knowledge, they were at one time painted with a orange tank body on a
black frame.

Mal Houck

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Marty

From those specs the cars sound like 4-bay offset-side ARA hoppers,
originally 70 ton cars.

Tim O'Connor

"I stumbled across a listing for an ORER for my prototype that shows some hopper cars that were previously unknown to me. There doesn't seem to be any readily available photos of these units, so I'm trying to figure out as much as possible from the information given.

It lists the cars as being 40'5" inside length, 50 ton, 2755 cubic foot capacity open hoppers. But that is the only information given. These were apparently second hand cars from some source.

Thanks in advance,
Marty

Somewhere I've seen a photo of a blue sign attached to a tank car unloading track reading "Stop - Tank Car Connected" or something to that effect. But now, of course, I can't recall where. Can anyone on the list direct me to such a photo?

Richard Hendrickson