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Re: Color for Bangor and Aroostook box car
al_brown03
Forgot to say if I were modelling one of these cars in service, I'd just paint it Floquil BCR and weather from there. The photos show several subtly different shades of weathered paint.
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AL B.
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Re: True Line Trains CP Mini-Box
atsfnut <michaelEGross@...>
I have one on order from a dealer in Halifax, but have heard nothing from him, as yet.
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Cheers! Michael Gross La Canada, CA
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Re: Canadian 8-hatch reefers
Tony Thompson
Don Valentine wrote:
This question has already received appropriate response but had me wondering again about the same question applied to the 8-hatch reefers also used by both of the two large Canadian roads. In watching a railroad video over the weekend the answer became clear with at least the CNR gray 8-hatch reefers when one appeared on a train photographed in southern New England. I'm not going to speculate on how many or how far they came into the US but clearly at least one car can be documented from wich I will speculate that it was not the only one. As we used to hear quite often, "There's a prototype for everything".Meat, of course, was one important cargo. As it happens, I have just finished weathering a TLT 8-hatch reefer and have written about in a blog post. But not just because of the prototype, though that's relevant, but because of a connection to my teenage modeling days. If you're interested, it's at this link: http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2013/07/canadian-reefers-with-overhead-hatches.html Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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St. Louis RPM Thursday Events
golden1014
Friends,
For those of you arriving early to the St. Louis area for this weekend’s St. Louis RPM meet, we have two events happening on Thursday, Aug 1st. First, the Litchfield Train Group is having an open house for RPM attendees from 3:00 to 5:00 p.m.The club has a large HO scale layout, 44' x 50’, Digitrax DCC, 90% scenicked, set in the 1960s Midwest (although models of all eras are run at times).The layout is located in the Ameriprise Financial building downtown at 510 N. State Street, Litchfield, Il. 62056.Litchfield is about 45 minutes from the Gateway Center in Collinsville, IL. If you have any questions please contact Lonnie Bathurst at (217) 556-0314. Second, we are hosting our annual, informal BBQ dinner at Bandana’s BBQ, located at 4 Commerce Drive, Collinsville, IL, right next to the Gateway Center. We have 30 seats reserved and the meal is pay-as-you-go.Arrival is at 6:00 p.m. and we can stay as long as we want to BS and harrass the waitresses--or get harrassed by the waitresses, as often happens... Remember, we will have three home layouts open on Friday evening after the dinner hour.The layouts are all in the beautiful St. Charles area in the western St. Louis suburbs.John Russell’s O-scale Rock Island transition-era layout, Ron Schlueter’s HO-scale 1956-era D&RGW Tennessee Pass layout (featuring actual areas on the pass), and Bill Wehmeier HO scale M-K-T late 1960s Kansas City layout (featured in Great Model Railroads, 2006) will be open from 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. for registered attendees.You do not need to register for these layout visits.Maps will be available at the meet on Friday.If you do not wish to visit the home layouts, the RPM room at the Gateway Center will be open until 9:00 p.m. for shopping and BS-ing. Also, late-breaking news—The Terminal Railroad Association Historical & Technical Society is providing a gift for the first 150 attendees at the meet.Thanks to our friend Larry Thomas of the TRRA Historical Society for his generosity!You can read more about the TRRA HS at trra-hts.railfan.net. Thanks, and we’ll see you in St. Louis! Signed, Loren Casey Clark Propst John Golden Dan Kohlberg Lonnie Bathurst [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Replacement medal wheel ssets
Andy Miller
He wants to use award winning wheelset!
I recommend Intermountain. The work beautifully in Accurail or Bowser truck frames. Regards, Andy Miller From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Hunter, James R. Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:03 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Replacement medal wheel ssets medal? Quoting Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@... <mailto:rhendrickson%40opendoor.com> >: On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:07 PM, larry <mrprksr@...<mailto:mrprksr%40bellsouth.net> > wrote: I have several accurail cars I'm finally getting around to detailingLarry, Northwest Shot Line semi-scale wheel sets, my usual
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Re: Canadian 8-hatch reefers; was True Line trains slab side CN covered hopper
midrly
I recall that some Canadian meat products found their way into the US back then, fish being one that I recall. Perhaps Kosher product for New York City? I was told that the NYC had some Kosher traffic ex Chicago.
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Steve Lucas.
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Re: Kyodo Steel snow plow question
midrly
The CPR Lyndonville Sub. was 64 miles of former B&M from Newport to Wells River, VT, and an "odd duck" on the CPR system. Among other things, it was signalled using US&S double-armed Style B semaphores similar to those used by SP, DL&W and NYO&W. This brought into play "Overlap Block" ABS operating rules on this line. Nowhere else on the CPR system were these signals used.
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I'll chime in about the model being of a Canadian design of snow plow built in the 1920's--which means that the retail price of this model probably just at least doubled! Steve Lucas.
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Re: True Line trains slab side CN covered hopper
midrly
These cars were a predecessor of the Canadian cylindrical covered hoppers still on the rails today, a large number being built and paid for by the Canadian government when CN and CP refused to invest in new cars to haul grain in the 1970's. The "Crow rate" of 1/2 cent CDN per ton mile for much Canadian grain traffic discouraged investment in new rolling stock for this traffic from the 1950's on.
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Which brings us back to STMFC's, because I hear those Moderator Jail cell doors creaking... Steve Lucas.
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Re: Canadian 8-hatch reefers; was True Line trains slab side CN covered hopper
Bryan Busséy
Both the CN slab side hoppers and CN eight-hatch reefers traveled
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regularly to all of the New England states. They were common in NYNH&H freight consists and were seen in and passing through New Haven (the city). I assume they traveled on to both New York and Maybrook to interchange with additional roads, but I haven't researched it to that extent. I haven't seen any evidence that the CP counterparts traveled New Haven rails. But it stands to reason that they must have, albeit less frequently than the CN cars. Since the eight-hatch reefers were used to carry so many specialized environment-sensitive commodities and not just goods requiring refrigeration, they must have traveled to all corners of the continent. bb
On 7/30/2013 8:29 AM, Don wrote:
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Re: True Line trains slab side CN covered hopper now CP Mini-Box
midrly
Tony, US roads' cars were loaded with grain in Canada as well.
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The CN Tiffin elevator in Midland, Ontario received 333,000 bushels of 2Y corn ex steamer Philip Minch on 11 April, 1942. This was shipped out as follows, these being just a FEW examples-- 1 April, 1943--1500 bushels--MILW 711745 10 April, 1943--2000 bushels--SP 27479 10 April, 1943--1500 bushels--CB&Q 13216 23 June, 1943--1930.1 bushels--ATSF 137779 25 June, 1943--2000 bushels--UP 183874 and UP 181730 28 June, 1943--2000 bushels--SP 97488 Steve Lucas.
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Re: Color for Bangor and Aroostook box car
al_brown03
Most of the photos in Sweetland and Horsley, "Northern New England Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment", pp 9-15, suggest that the color is a mainstream BCR. I could be convinced that newly-painted cars had an Oxide tinge.
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Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Color for Bangor and Aroostook box car
Ken Roth
I'm wondering if anyone knows the shade of boxcar red used by the B&A. I would love a mix based on Floquil or Scalecoat, but at least I would like to know if it leaned towards the Oxide Red, or Brown end of the spectrum, or was basically in the middle of the range.
Thanks, Ken Roth
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Re: DL&W 46155 gets a load of bagged limestone 1957 (UNCLASSIFIED)
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE Door? Door? So, now you want a door? So, here's a door.... Elden Gatwood http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=railroad;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicrsc;c=hpicusc;back=back1375190442;subview=detail;resnum=4638;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-200907.1957.10021;viewid=20121127-HPICASC-0125.TIF --- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "moonmuln" <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:
Well, I can answer that. My Dad (who worked for a lumber yard during the thirties) told me how they dealt with doors that were jammed because the load had shifted against them... They'd back a truck up to the door, perpendicular to the track, wedge the hooks of a couple chains behind the edges of the door, and hook the chains to the truck. Then they'd drive straight away from the car; when the slack ran out, the door popped off the side of the car. When they'd finished unloading, they'd throw the door into the empty car for the railroad to deal with. Which is why I say the car is being UNloaded... no sense loading a car that's going to the RIP track. Dennis Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
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Re: Canadian 8-hatch reefers; was True Line trains slab side CN covered hopper
Don <riverman_vt@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Bill" <wpmccoy@> wrote: This question has already received appropriate response but had me wondering again about the same question applied to the 8-hatch reefers also used by both of the two large Canadian roads. In watching a railroad video over the weekend the answer became clear with at least the CNR gray 8-hatch reefers when one appeared on a train photographed in southern New England. I'm not going to speculate on how many or how far they came into the US but clearly at least one car can be documented from wich I will speculate that it was not the only one. As we used to hear quite often, "There's a prototype for everything". Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: True Line Trains CP Mini-Box
Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
Not to my knowledge.
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Not sure what the delay is. Pierre OLiver
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Re: True Line trains slab side CN covered hopper
Armand Premo
I am well aware that they have noting (sic) to do with the Canadian covered hoppers.My response was to a post who had never heard of "tank hoppers".Armand Premo
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From: Richard Hendrickson To: STMFC@... Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] True Line trains slab side CN covered hopper On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Armand Premo <armprem2@...> wrote: > Barrett (Tarvia) a division of Allied Chemical had hopper bottom tank cars for shipping roofing material.Looked pretty much like an ordinary tank car,but with hoppers.They may have been converted tank cars. > The Barrett cars were converted from GATC tank cars built in the 1920s. But they have noting to do with the Canadian covered hoppers that are under discussion here. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: True Line Trains CP Mini-Box
Has the CP mini-box been released by TrueLine and is it being handled by any US dealers? Klein doesn't show it.
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Thanks, Bill McCoy
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Re: Replacement medal wheel ssets
Mark Drake <markstation01@...>
Medal is a military thing...metal wheels are another! Kadees work great and are less expensive than all the others out there. Get the truck tool and bore out the holes for the axels, I've been doing it for years.
Mark L. Drake eBay ID member1108 ________________________________ From: larry <mrprksr@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:07 PM Subject: [STMFC] Replacement medal wheel ssets I have several accurail cars I'm finally getting around to detailing and I am finding that Kadee #520 wheels are kinda snug (the axle is too long)...Question is what are you fellowa using in these trucks.....Thanks.....Larry Mennie
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Re: True Line trains slab side CN covered hopper
cwilson@...
Since you asked here is a link: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp387167ajs.jpg
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But this is straying outside the guidelines as the tank hoppers were built after 1960. CW
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Re: Replacement medal wheel ssets
naptownprr
medal?
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Quoting Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>:
On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:07 PM, larry <mrprksr@...> wrote:I have several accurail cars I'm finally getting around to detailingLarry, Northwest Shot Line semi-scale wheel sets, my usual
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