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From: Claus Schlund (HGM) [mailto:claus@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 06:31 AM
To: 'STMFC'
Subject: [STMFC] Some views of Hunter Tower...

Hi List members,

Some views of Hunter Tower...

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348008p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348009p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348010p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348011p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348012p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348013p/resource/

Note the last image shows that the two center tracks were signalled for traffic in both directions.

Lastly, image of Sunnyside yard, as I understand it all the buildings are now gone.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ny1317.photos.119193p/resource/

Enjoy - Claus Schlund






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--- In STMFC@..., "al_brown03" <abrown@> wrote:

... but one might ask more specifically: (1) how far South was anthracite used for home heating? (2) how else was anthracite used? I'm not an expert on coal, and I wouldn't know where to look it up.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

Hi Al,

(1) I have a scan of the 1954/54 West Palm Beach City Directory, which puts us in the correct era and pretty far south. The Guaranty Warehouse Co. had a display advertisement touting its delivery service of efficient clean-burning anthracite. This is just an example I happened to be working on recently, but it is not uncommon to see similar ads for coal dealers as you peruse city directories across the south (from the 50s).

(2) Advantages (relative to bituminous and lignite) are clean burning, low ash, high heat content, higher combustion temperature. Drawback was cost. Besides residential use, the most frequent occurrences I have seen were in smelting, high-temperature metallurgy, and chemical manufacturing. Most of the ordinary "gray-iron" foundries (which are fairly low temperature processes) tended to use bituminous or coke from what I've been able to tell.

Regards,

Charles Hostetler
Goshen Ind.

Hi Tim,



Sorry, but there were more like 4 to 5 thousand V cars built, in all, most
of which were 6500 gallon size, but a fair number were 8, 10, even 12000
gallons.



Regards,

Steve Hile



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:33 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?






Yes it appears to be a Type X. Only about 100 Type V's were built.

At 8/16/2013 02:58 PM Friday, you wrote:

Hi List members,

Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013105/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund

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I'm well aware of the "yellow/silver roof". discussions.. But this thread
has presented some additional information that I was not aware of and might
shed a little light on this.

Erie cars of that time period often had unpainted galvanized roofs (note -
Not "painted silver"). If the first Rutland cars were in fact ex-Erie
orders, is it not likely that PS just painted the sides/ends as they would
have on the rest of the Erie order, leaving the roof unfinished?

Just sayin'..

Bill Schneider

Hi Tim,



Sorry, but there were more like 4 to 5 thousand V cars built, in all, most
of which were 6500 gallon size, but a fair number were 8, 10, even 12000
gallons.



Regards,

Steve Hile



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:33 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?






Yes it appears to be a Type X. Only about 100 Type V's were built.

At 8/16/2013 02:58 PM Friday, you wrote:

Hi List members,

Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013105/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund

Hi List members,

Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013105/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund

Phil

Uh-oh, you're not one of the "yellow roofers" are ya? :-)

Clearly, some had yellow roofs, some did not. Has anyone ever
figured out which cars had which?

I'm looking at a nice photo of brand new R #248, with a plain
galvanized roof and black seam caps. This is one of Kadee's
car numbers, but not Steamshack's.

Tim O'

Bill,

These have not been done by Kadee, but they have been by "The Steamshack",
a hobby shop in Rutland, VT as kits or RTR. Roger Dumas owns The

Steamshack

and is involved with the RRHS. The later runs, which were done by
Intermountain, are considered by many as the most accurate of all models

of

the Rutland PS-1's. The lettering comes from paint diagrams from the
Rutland, have metal roof-walks, yellow roofs, proper brake wheel and metal
wheel sets. When I last talked to Roger a month or so ago, he had some RTR
cars left, but I don't recall what numbers they were that he had.

Steamshack's contact information - *The Steam Shack*. 98 Allen Street, *
Rutland*, *Vermont* USA 05701. Telephone: 802-775-1679

If you'd like to know what numbers were made, go to
http://www.rutlandrr.org/resources/models/ . There is a listing of PS-1's
that have been done in HO scale.

Hope this helps.

Phil

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Bill,

These have not been done by Kadee, but they have been by "The Steamshack",
a hobby shop in Rutland, VT as kits or RTR. Roger Dumas owns The Steamshack
and is involved with the RRHS. The later runs, which were done by
Intermountain, are considered by many as the most accurate of all models of
the Rutland PS-1's. The lettering comes from paint diagrams from the
Rutland, have metal roof-walks, yellow roofs, proper brake wheel and metal
wheel sets. When I last talked to Roger a month or so ago, he had some RTR
cars left, but I don't recall what numbers they were that he had.

Steamshack's contact information - *The Steam Shack*. 98 Allen Street, *
Rutland*, *Vermont* USA 05701. Telephone: 802-775-1679

If you'd like to know what numbers were made, go to
http://www.rutlandrr.org/resources/models/ . There is a listing of PS-1's
that have been done in HO scale.

Hope this helps.

Phil

Bill

I have 14 photos on my disk drive of Rutland PS-1's and not one
is from 150-199. Weird. You probably know that Kadee is usually
downright persnickety about having a photo to work from...

Tim O'Connor

Thank you Phillip and Tim:

The best for me would be: Rutland 150-199 50 2-55 lot 8225 7' 5P Sup

Univ Apex ASF A3

I just did a quick check of the Kadee site and they have never done this

group. I think I will write them and encourage them to consider it.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Bill

This is (essentially) a cut and paste from Ed Hawkin's PS-1 spreadsheet:

Rutland 100-107 8 8-54 lot 8175B 7' YSD-2 Ajax Gypsum ASF A3
Rutland 108-149 42 10-54 lot 8207 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 150-199 50 2-55 lot 8225 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 200-299 100 3-56 lot 8281 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 300-399 101 8-56 lot 8300 8' PS Univ Apex ASF A3 #223

backfill

Rutland 400-450 52 4-57 lot 8373 8' PS Apex ASF A3 #354

backfill

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Thank you Phillip and Tim:

The best for me would be: Rutland 150-199 50 2-55 lot 8225 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3

I just did a quick check of the Kadee site and they have never done this group. I think I will write them and encourage them to consider it.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Bill

This is (essentially) a cut and paste from Ed Hawkin's PS-1 spreadsheet:

Rutland 100-107 8 8-54 lot 8175B 7' YSD-2 Ajax Gypsum ASF A3
Rutland 108-149 42 10-54 lot 8207 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 150-199 50 2-55 lot 8225 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 200-299 100 3-56 lot 8281 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 300-399 101 8-56 lot 8300 8' PS Univ Apex ASF A3 #223 backfill
Rutland 400-450 52 4-57 lot 8373 8' PS Apex ASF A3 #354 backfill

Tim O'Connor

Thank you Phillip and Tim:

The best for me would be: Rutland 150-199 50 2-55 lot 8225 7' 5P Sup Univ
Apex ASF A3

I just did a quick check of the Kadee site and they have never done this
group. I think I will write them and encourage them to consider it.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Bill

This is (essentially) a cut and paste from Ed Hawkin's PS-1 spreadsheet:

Rutland 100-107 8 8-54 lot 8175B 7' YSD-2 Ajax Gypsum ASF A3
Rutland 108-149 42 10-54 lot 8207 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 150-199 50 2-55 lot 8225 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 200-299 100 3-56 lot 8281 7' 5P Sup Univ Apex ASF A3
Rutland 300-399 101 8-56 lot 8300 8' PS Univ Apex ASF A3 #223

backfill

Rutland 400-450 52 4-57 lot 8373 8' PS Apex ASF A3 #354

backfill

Tim O'Connor

Were all of the well-known green & yellow Rutland PS-1's built in
1956 (and perhaps afterward) or conversely were any built before
October 1955?
Bill Welch

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