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Re: Some steam era freight car content on the Library of Congress site

George Courtney
 

I did try Google for the search and typed in the entire string. Google, unlike IE. got me to one of the pictures, not the Library of Congress site. Will try more later.

George Courtney

--- In STMFC@..., "proto48er" <atkott@...> wrote:

Guys -

I think it is something that Yahoo has done. I have IE6 and am having the same trouble in each of my Yahoo groups, except for images in the "BullShippers" Yahoo group - the links there still work the old way! In other words, the link shows up in blue and you can click on it successfully! What is going on here??

A.T. Kott

--- In STMFC@..., "gsc3" <gsc3@> wrote:

Ditto, but also when I write down and type the www.lov.govfas.....etc in on Yahoo search I get the Library of Congress photos, but a message it can't find those photos. Hmmmm. I did go to the latest Internet Explorer recently. A move I now regret.

George Courtney

--- In STMFC@..., "brian" <brianleppert@> wrote:

ED, I have the same problem. Until just recently, those links would show up in blue and clicking on them worked just fine. Not any more. Now they are black like everything else and clicking does nothing. I have the same problem on the MFCL Yahoo group.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

--- In STMFC@..., "EdwardM" <ed_mines@> wrote:

Is there some reason why I can't click on these? I used to be able to.
Is it my computer or does everyone have this problem?

Ed Mines


Re: ID freight cars at Chehalis

Brad Andonian
 

Robert,
 
I pass this regularly, not sure about history of ownership of the cars.    However, here is a link to their website; I am sure you can query them and find out---its great to have a few of these outlets left!    Snoqualmie is ok and the Mt Rainier Scenic is supposed to be the best in our area...
Cheers,
Brad Andonian
 
http://steamtrainride.com/about/

From: Robert Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:51 PM
Subject: [STMFC] ID freight cars at Chehalis

 
I was driving up Interstate Highway 5 yesterday and had a 5 minute stop at Chehalis WA, where there are 10 or more steam era freight cars (with the possible exception of some flat cars that may be more recent).

I took quick snap shots - awaiting moderator approval. The cars are numbered as follows:
a.. steel boxcar - LNWX 201
b.. double sheathed boxcar - LNWX 230
c.. steel boxcar - LNWX 200
d.. closed hopper - obliterated
e.. gon - LNWX 300
f.. Steel ribbed boxcar - MILW 33283 (I think I figured that one out!)
g.. drop centre flat – no number evident
h.. flat (no reporting mark) #647
i.. plus others out of site from my vantage point.

I’ve posted some snaps in a folder titled “Chehalis WA rolling stock”, which will hopefully be approved shortly.

I’d appreciate some help determining the steam-era ownership of any of the cars (except the MILW car, of course). Anyone know how they came to be collected by the Chehalis-Centralia Railroad & Museum?

Rob Kirkham






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Re: Some steam era freight car content on the Library of Congress site

proto48er
 

Guys -

I think it is something that Yahoo has done. I have IE6 and am having the same trouble in each of my Yahoo groups, except for images in the "BullShippers" Yahoo group - the links there still work the old way! In other words, the link shows up in blue and you can click on it successfully! What is going on here??

A.T. Kott

--- In STMFC@..., "gsc3" <gsc3@...> wrote:

Ditto, but also when I write down and type the www.lov.govfas.....etc in on Yahoo search I get the Library of Congress photos, but a message it can't find those photos. Hmmmm. I did go to the latest Internet Explorer recently. A move I now regret.

George Courtney

--- In STMFC@..., "brian" <brianleppert@> wrote:

ED, I have the same problem. Until just recently, those links would show up in blue and clicking on them worked just fine. Not any more. Now they are black like everything else and clicking does nothing. I have the same problem on the MFCL Yahoo group.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

--- In STMFC@..., "EdwardM" <ed_mines@> wrote:

Is there some reason why I can't click on these? I used to be able to.
Is it my computer or does everyone have this problem?

Ed Mines


ID freight cars at Chehalis

Robert kirkham
 

I was driving up Interstate Highway 5 yesterday and had a 5 minute stop at Chehalis WA, where there are 10 or more steam era freight cars (with the possible exception of some flat cars that may be more recent).

I took quick snap shots - awaiting moderator approval. The cars are numbered as follows:
a.. steel boxcar - LNWX 201
b.. double sheathed boxcar - LNWX 230
c.. steel boxcar - LNWX 200
d.. closed hopper - obliterated
e.. gon - LNWX 300
f.. Steel ribbed boxcar - MILW 33283 (I think I figured that one out!)
g.. drop centre flat – no number evident
h.. flat (no reporting mark) #647
i.. plus others out of site from my vantage point.

I’ve posted some snaps in a folder titled “Chehalis WA rolling stock”, which will hopefully be approved shortly.

I’d appreciate some help determining the steam-era ownership of any of the cars (except the MILW car, of course). Anyone know how they came to be collected by the Chehalis-Centralia Railroad & Museum?

Rob Kirkham


Re: Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left?

Tony Thompson
 

Claus Schlund wrote:
Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left? Is this what is called a Warren truss?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015034/PP/resource/
Yes. though here, as in bridges, the vertical posts are for convenience, not necessity.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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Re: Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left?

Charles Hladik
 

Claus,
Attached are some different trusses.
Chuck Hladik

In a message dated 8/18/2013 12:01:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
claus@... writes:





Hi List Members,

Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left? Is this what is called a Warren
truss?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015034/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund






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Re: here are some more images...

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Claus you said enjoy. I sure did thank you.
Paul Doggett England

--- In STMFC@..., "Claus Schlund (HGM)" <claus@...> wrote:

Hi List members,

At the risk of overwhelming everyone, here are some more images...

SLSW and GT 36 foot boxcars
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004000405/resource/
and again at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004000406/resource/

B&O USRA single sheathed boxcar in bad condition
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/md0748.photos.086027p/resource/

B&O drop door gon in wreck
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006773/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006775/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006777/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006779/resource/

P&R boxcar in wreck
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006774/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006778/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006781/resource/

SP 50 foot single sheathed auto boxcar
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsa/8d11000/8d11200/8d11225v.jpg

Swift and C&NW reefers
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001010278/PP/resource/

PRR class GS gon
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsa/8d11000/8d11300/8d11338v.jpg

BAP (!) hopper
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001011189/PP/resource/

C&NW single sheated box
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001010311/PP/resource/

NYC gon with pipe load
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001011888/PP/resource/

DIAMOND tank car (wasn't there discussion regarding these recently?)
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001012167/PP/resource/

SSW box car end view - 7-3-7 ribbed end panels!
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013037/PP/resource/

Tank car MPIX 1586
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013236/PP/resource/

Tank car fiesta
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013314/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013317/PP/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013318/PP/resource/

Great flat car load
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013358/PP/resource/

Yard shot
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014041/PP/resource/

ATSF tank car string
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014170/PP/resource/

Phillips tank cars
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014184/PP/resource/

UP steel boxcar, unknown tank cars
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014209/PP/resource/

PSPX 2323 tank car
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014227/PP/resource/

C&NW 47296 single sheathed box car
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014836/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014837/PP/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014849/PP/resource/

Overhead C&NW yard shot
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014846/PP/resource/

MP double sheated boxcar
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014853/PP/resource/

Yard views, Route of the 400 single sheathed boxcar
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014861/PP/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014866/PP/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014868/PP/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014876/PP/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014877/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014879/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014900/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014901/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014902/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014903/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014905/PP/resource/

CB&Q gon
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014908/PP/resource/

Stock cars
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014913/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014914/PP/resource/

C&NW quad hoper and USRA boxcar
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014931/PP/resource/

CB&Q gon
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015013/PP/resource/

GN double sheathed box
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015016/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015017/PP/resource/

PRR_round_roof_auto_box_
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015026/PP/resource/

More yard shots
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015042/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015047/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015049/PP/resource/


Enjoy!

- Claus Schlund


Re: Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left?

Benjamin Hom
 

Claus Schlund asked:
"Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left?"
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015034/PP/resource/

PRR Class X23.  The horizontal members of the truss were often (but not always) removed from cars during their service lives.
http://prr.railfan.net/freight/freightphotos.html?photo=PRR_499656_X23_side_RS_Elkhart_IN.JPG&fr=clX23
 
As with the related Class X25 steel boxcar, these cars were massively overbuilt - Gary Rausch showed a photo of a Class X23 boxcar with a collapsed coaling tower on top of it.  The car was in surprisingly good shape.
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left?

Eric Lombard
 

Hello, Claus...

Thanks for another great image.

Based on the pattern of the pressed steel posts and braces, and the fact
that the door opens to the left, the car appears to be a rebuilt PRR X23.
In the late 1930's some were rebuilt by removing the original vertical
sheathing and horizontal bracing between the posts and braces, and
installing horizontal sheathing.

Eric Lombard


On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Claus Schlund (HGM) <
claus@...> wrote:

**



Hi List Members,

Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left? Is this what is called a Warren
truss?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015034/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund



Re: Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

I can't quite make out the car number in this photo, but it appears to be
15339. It that is correct, it is, in fact a V car. Series 15000 - 15499
was built by Pressed Steel car in 1911 as 6500 gallon V cars. The spotting
feature would be that the heavy bottom sheet extends beyond the tank heads.
You can sort of see this in this picture. A large number of these cars were
dusted off and used in the buildup and during WWII in solid oil trains. But
they were not converted to AB brakes and so were rapidly retired after the
war.



I wish they had the higher definition scan of this photo available, we could
tell the number and other features more clearly.



Regards,

Steve Hile



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:33 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?






Yes it appears to be a Type X. Only about 100 Type V's were built.

At 8/16/2013 02:58 PM Friday, you wrote:
Hi List members,

Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013105/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund


here are some more images...

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List members,

At the risk of overwhelming everyone, here are some more images...

SLSW and GT 36 foot boxcars
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004000405/resource/
and again at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004000406/resource/

B&O USRA single sheathed boxcar in bad condition
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/md0748.photos.086027p/resource/

B&O drop door gon in wreck
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006773/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006775/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006777/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006779/resource/

P&R boxcar in wreck
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006774/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006778/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/npc2007006781/resource/

SP 50 foot single sheathed auto boxcar
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsa/8d11000/8d11200/8d11225v.jpg

Swift and C&NW reefers
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001010278/PP/resource/

PRR class GS gon
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsa/8d11000/8d11300/8d11338v.jpg

BAP (!) hopper
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001011189/PP/resource/

C&NW single sheated box
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001010311/PP/resource/

NYC gon with pipe load
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001011888/PP/resource/

DIAMOND tank car (wasn't there discussion regarding these recently?)
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001012167/PP/resource/

SSW box car end view - 7-3-7 ribbed end panels!
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013037/PP/resource/

Tank car MPIX 1586
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013236/PP/resource/

Tank car fiesta
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013314/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013317/PP/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013318/PP/resource/

Great flat car load
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013358/PP/resource/

Yard shot
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014041/PP/resource/

ATSF tank car string
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014170/PP/resource/

Phillips tank cars
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014184/PP/resource/

UP steel boxcar, unknown tank cars
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014209/PP/resource/

PSPX 2323 tank car
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014227/PP/resource/

C&NW 47296 single sheathed box car
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014836/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014837/PP/resource/
and also at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014849/PP/resource/

Overhead C&NW yard shot
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014846/PP/resource/

MP double sheated boxcar
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014853/PP/resource/

Yard views, Route of the 400 single sheathed boxcar
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014861/PP/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014866/PP/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014868/PP/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014876/PP/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014877/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014879/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014900/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014901/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014902/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014903/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014905/PP/resource/

CB&Q gon
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014908/PP/resource/

Stock cars
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014913/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014914/PP/resource/

C&NW quad hoper and USRA boxcar
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001014931/PP/resource/

CB&Q gon
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015013/PP/resource/

GN double sheathed box
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015016/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015017/PP/resource/

PRR_round_roof_auto_box_
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015026/PP/resource/

More yard shots
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015042/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015047/PP/resource/
and at
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015049/PP/resource/


Enjoy!

- Claus Schlund


Re: Some views of Hunter Tower...

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Oops, wrong list! Apologies!

- Claus Schlund

-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Schlund (HGM) [mailto:claus@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 06:31 AM
To: 'STMFC'
Subject: [STMFC] Some views of Hunter Tower...

Hi List members,

Some views of Hunter Tower...

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348008p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348009p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348010p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348011p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348012p/resource/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/nj1745.photos.348013p/resource/

Note the last image shows that the two center tracks were signalled for traffic in both directions.

Lastly, image of Sunnyside yard, as I understand it all the buildings are now gone.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ny1317.photos.119193p/resource/

Enjoy - Claus Schlund






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Some views of Hunter Tower...

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left?

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,

Can anyone ID the boxcar on the left? Is this what is called a Warren truss?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001015034/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund


Re: Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

I will have to remind them about that error in the presentation. I think
that there are a few others, I haven't looked at that in a while. I have
done quite a bit of research into their archives (which are unfortunately
rather sparse) and I am quite sure about numbers of X (more that 7000) and V
cars (more than 4000.) Someday, I will get it into a publishable format.



Regards,

Steve Hile



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:55 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] RE: Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?





Steve

I was just going by what I found on the Union Tank Car company's
own web site. See the page numbered "1901" --

http://www.utlx.com/pdf/TankCarHistory.pdf

Tim

At 8/17/2013 08:24 AM Saturday, you wrote:
Hi Tim,



Sorry, but there were more like 4 to 5 thousand V cars built, in all, most
of which were 6500 gallon size, but a fair number were 8, 10, even 12000
gallons.



Regards,

Steve Hile



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From: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:33 PM
To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?






Yes it appears to be a Type X. Only about 100 Type V's were built.

At 8/16/2013 02:58 PM Friday, you wrote:
Hi List members,

Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013105/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund


Re: Perusing RailPictures.net

al_brown03
 

West Palm?!?!? Wow! I should hie me to UCF and look up Orlando.

AL B.

--- In STMFC@..., "Charles Hostetler" <cnw1045@...> wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., "al_brown03" <abrown@> wrote:

... but one might ask more specifically: (1) how far South was anthracite used for home heating? (2) how else was anthracite used? I'm not an expert on coal, and I wouldn't know where to look it up.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
Hi Al,

(1) I have a scan of the 1954/54 West Palm Beach City Directory, which puts us in the correct era and pretty far south. The Guaranty Warehouse Co. had a display advertisement touting its delivery service of efficient clean-burning anthracite. This is just an example I happened to be working on recently, but it is not uncommon to see similar ads for coal dealers as you peruse city directories across the south (from the 50s).

(2) Advantages (relative to bituminous and lignite) are clean burning, low ash, high heat content, higher combustion temperature. Drawback was cost. Besides residential use, the most frequent occurrences I have seen were in smelting, high-temperature metallurgy, and chemical manufacturing. Most of the ordinary "gray-iron" foundries (which are fairly low temperature processes) tended to use bituminous or coke from what I've been able to tell.

Regards,

Charles Hostetler
Goshen Ind.


Re: Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

Jared Harper
 

Steve,

Please e-mail me off list at harperandbrown@....

Jared Harper
Athens, GA

--- In STMFC@..., "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@...> wrote:

Hi Tim,



Sorry, but there were more like 4 to 5 thousand V cars built, in all, most
of which were 6500 gallon size, but a fair number were 8, 10, even 12000
gallons.



Regards,

Steve Hile



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:33 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?






Yes it appears to be a Type X. Only about 100 Type V's were built.

At 8/16/2013 02:58 PM Friday, you wrote:
Hi List members,

Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013105/PP/resource/

- Claus Schlund




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Re: Rutland PS-1

Tim O'Connor
 

I don't know if I can agree with that Bill. Car exteriors were painted
after the whole car was assembled, so why wouldn't they paint the WHOLE
car according to the Rutland's instructions?

On the other hand, Pullman-Standard did produce some oddly painted cars.
For example, most C&NW PS-1 box cars had black ends and roofs -- but the
#24739 was delivered with box car red ends and roof. There's a beautiful
builder photo of this car so many vendors have painted some C&NW PS-1's
incorrectly, including Intermountain.

Tim O'

I'm well aware of the "yellow/silver roof". discussions.. But this thread
has presented some additional information that I was not aware of and might
shed a little light on this.

Erie cars of that time period often had unpainted galvanized roofs (note -
Not "painted silver"). If the first Rutland cars were in fact ex-Erie
orders, is it not likely that PS just painted the sides/ends as they would
have on the rest of the Erie order, leaving the roof unfinished?

Just sayin'..

Bill Schneider


roofs (was Re: Rutland PS-1)

Tim O'Connor
 

Armand, I don't think anyone would disagree that unpainted galvanized
does not mean "silver" or "aluminum" colored paint. I don't know of any
XM box cars that had such painted roofs, although there probably were
some. RB/RS/RP's of course are a different story... Recently vendors
have tried to mimic 'overspray' with varying degrees of success. Only
Athearn has done the dark seam caps + galvanized roof, and then only
on one model, too modern for this list.

Tim O'Connor


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The original cars were used extensively for PR purposes for the general public,but mainly for potential customers and may have had painted roofs.I have taken pictures from above and the paint did not fully cover the roof and appeared to be applied in an irregular pattern suggesting over-spray.I stand by my original statement that the roofs were not pained silver either ,but were unpainted. galvanize.I defer to Steve Mumley for additional comments.Armand Premo


Re: Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

Tim O'Connor
 

Steve

I was just going by what I found on the Union Tank Car company's
own web site. See the page numbered "1901" --

http://www.utlx.com/pdf/TankCarHistory.pdf

Tim

At 8/17/2013 08:24 AM Saturday, you wrote:
Hi Tim,



Sorry, but there were more like 4 to 5 thousand V cars built, in all, most
of which were 6500 gallon size, but a fair number were 8, 10, even 12000
gallons.



Regards,

Steve Hile



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:33 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?






Yes it appears to be a Type X. Only about 100 Type V's were built.

At 8/16/2013 02:58 PM Friday, you wrote:
Hi List members,

Can this be a ULX type V or X tank car?

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/owi2001013105/PP/resource/

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